Replying To Greenfield: "nope. not getting into this with someone who won't get it anyway. i'm out.
enjoy the game Sunday." Be insterested to know that myself Greenfield, I don't think there's huge difference between Meath and Kildare but we seem to be in better shape at the minute anyway.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 19/06/2019 12:37:44
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Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 19/06/2019 12:38:07
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Replying To Greenfield: "I was trying to stay away from these threads as it seemed the lunatics had taken over the asylum so I'm glad to see some sense about the place. I can't see how any argument based on logic/stats/form points to a Meath win on Sunday. I've tried to put together match-ups for the game but I can't come up with anything that gives Meath advantages in enough areas to compete. Our really top players like Menton, McGill and Keoghan could possibly match up but will suffer from having to plug gaps around them. As a supporter I'm delighted with the progress made this year, particularly league promotion, and am hopeful for the future. But this is now and Meath aren't developed enough to compete yet. Kildare are ahead of us in the pecking order and couldn't do it. I see Clondalkin replied that Dublin fans aren't even thinking about this game. Understandable, as that's what the championship has become. In a funny way I am similar. Once upon a time I would have hated the thoughts of Meath being beaten by Dublin. But the GAA have engineered a situation where I'll go on Sunday knowing that all logic points to a comfortable Dublin win as you say. But I don't really care. Any real interest in the competition has been killed. It's a chance to see where we are at, but that's it. Looking forward to the qualifier draw and hopefully we can still make it through to the quarter final groups. That would top a decent year." Kildare ahead of us in the pecking order ? You obviously have not watched much football in the last year or two. Kildare got beat by Carlow last year in Leinster and lost all 7 league games. This year we beat them in the league and topped div 2. Seriously think some people on here that are claiming to be from Meath are actually from other counties.
SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 19/06/2019 12:46:36
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Replying To SheridansTry: "Kildare ahead of us in the pecking order ? You obviously have not watched much football in the last year or two. Kildare got beat by Carlow last year in Leinster and lost all 7 league games. This year we beat them in the league and topped div 2. Seriously think some people on here that are claiming to be from Meath are actually from other counties." Have come to that conclusion myself awhile back.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/06/2019 13:10:34
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Replying To SheridansTry: "Kildare ahead of us in the pecking order ? You obviously have not watched much football in the last year or two. Kildare got beat by Carlow last year in Leinster and lost all 7 league games. This year we beat them in the league and topped div 2. Seriously think some people on here that are claiming to be from Meath are actually from other counties." I think they're enjoying the all little the thumbs up they're getting from the Dubs for berating their county and fellow county men/women.
They should head for the George on Sunday instead of Croker if they love the thumb up so much ;-)
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 19/06/2019 13:18:07
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Replying To southmeathgael: "Some meath fans on here are fast becoming the laughing stock of hoganstand in the build up to this game..... please stop talking BS about age old rivalries, meath raising their game againt the old enemy, meath have never feared dublin, (if we aren't possitive the players havnt a chance, was one of my favourites) etc etc as an argument for how we have a chance. We dont unfortunetely, and admitting that doesnt mean you are less of a meath man/fan then anyone else..... it just means you have a bit of common sense ...... Some are even saying you shouldnt go to the game and arent a real fan if you don't think we have a chance ..hah, there'd be some small crowds at sporting occasions worldwide if that was criteria for attending. Hope is the word I'd use to describe my thoughts on Sunday.....I hope for an excellant performance which in turn may lead to a tighter game then people expect and we'll take it from there. But it's a monumental task, and all logical thinking points to a very comfortable Dublin win." meath have a chance, a slim one granted but they still have a chance, from what im hearing from the meath camp there playing for a win on sunday which is encouraging to hear, i hope southmeathgael if meath do lose you wont be on hear snearing at the posters who had a bit of hope of a result against the dubs, if we get a bit of luck and meath do win sunday i wonder how long it would be before you post here again.
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 664 - 19/06/2019 13:19:54
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Replying To Htaem: "I see a lot of negativity from the usual Meath suspects on here. Now I'm not blind to the challenge we face, Dublin haven't lost a match in Leinster since 5 past Cluxton in June 2010 and they've won the last 4 All-Irelands.
I get it, the Dubs are a reasonably decent football team at the minute, but here's my two questions:
1. Why the condemnation of optimistic Meath fans? What's the added benefit of giving up on your team before they even play? (Again I'm well aware of the opposition we face, I'm not living in 1999).
2. What do you propose as a county we do? If the Leinster championship is a dead duck, do we just pull out, what's the plan going forward?" Don't be playing the auld victim card, particularly when having a read on your forum there is lads being absolutely slated and having their support for Meath questioned for voicing the view (based on football and not on emotional bluster) that they can't see past a very comfortable Dublin win. They might be wrong but that is their objective view. It doesn't mean that they don't want Meath to win any less.
Meath fans (as any fans of any county are) are fully entitled to be optimistic and proclaim that they are going to be right in the mix and have a great chance of beating Dublin. Have at it, no one is stopping you. By the same token, others are fully entitled to completely disagree with you, explain why and tell you that they find your optimism utterly ridiculous and deluded. If it turns out that you boys are correct, you will have great ammunition on Monday to tell everyone you told them so. Until then though, people are fully entitled to challenge your view.
Why would anyone feel you should pull out of the Leinster Championship? Is this some attempt at creating a siege mentality? Just because most people think Leinster is a total procession and will be this year too, doesn't mean that all Leinster counties, including Meath, shouldn't be striving to reel Dublin in.
the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 19/06/2019 13:30:35
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Replying To SheridansTry: "Kildare ahead of us in the pecking order ? You obviously have not watched much football in the last year or two. Kildare got beat by Carlow last year in Leinster and lost all 7 league games. This year we beat them in the league and topped div 2. Seriously think some people on here that are claiming to be from Meath are actually from other counties." Maybe I am from Meath and watch lots of football, but just don't share your view. Did that cross ever cross your mind?
Kildare got beat by Carlow last year. So what? Meath got beat by Longford last year. Longford later lost to Kildare. Again so what?
Seems like we use different methods to make our judgements. I see Kildare as a team better equipped at the minute to compete at inter county level based on what I've seen recently. What happened last year won't change my mind. I think they are at the level we have to match consistently before we can even think about making the jump to catch the leading pack. But we're getting there.
We probably won't agree, but sure we'll live on.
Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 19/06/2019 14:29:02
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Replying To the_walls: "Don't be playing the auld victim card, particularly when having a read on your forum there is lads being absolutely slated and having their support for Meath questioned for voicing the view (based on football and not on emotional bluster) that they can't see past a very comfortable Dublin win. They might be wrong but that is their objective view. It doesn't mean that they don't want Meath to win any less.
Meath fans (as any fans of any county are) are fully entitled to be optimistic and proclaim that they are going to be right in the mix and have a great chance of beating Dublin. Have at it, no one is stopping you. By the same token, others are fully entitled to completely disagree with you, explain why and tell you that they find your optimism utterly ridiculous and deluded. If it turns out that you boys are correct, you will have great ammunition on Monday to tell everyone you told them so. Until then though, people are fully entitled to challenge your view.
Why would anyone feel you should pull out of the Leinster Championship? Is this some attempt at creating a siege mentality? Just because most people think Leinster is a total procession and will be this year too, doesn't mean that all Leinster counties, including Meath, shouldn't be striving to reel Dublin in." Victim? Not really sure what your point is there.
I know we all have different opinions, I'm just basically asking the question, what's the inhenrent benefit in being negative as opposed to positive? Some claim to be 'realistic', but I have my doubts given the constant negativity.
Ps, I didn't say we were going to beat the Dubs (unless I said it somewhere for the craic, I'm just enjoying the build up). And I agree we should be striving to beat them Dubs, that's again my point, but you should read some of the despondent nonsense that some of our fellow poster write on a regular basis.
What is the point in that attitude? Where will such negativity get us?
I'm hoping for a win on sunday, I know who and what we're facing and I'm well aware of the odds but there are no certainties in sport or life.
And if we lose, even heavily then so be it, take it on the chin, hopefully learn from it and try to be better the next day. What else can you do.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 19/06/2019 15:59:43
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Replying To Royal.Legend: "meath have a chance, a slim one granted but they still have a chance, from what im hearing from the meath camp there playing for a win on sunday which is encouraging to hear, i hope southmeathgael if meath do lose you wont be on hear snearing at the posters who had a bit of hope of a result against the dubs, if we get a bit of luck and meath do win sunday i wonder how long it would be before you post here again." Immediately to congratulate the team and I'd be absolutely delighted, same as I'll be dissapointed but not surprised if we lose.
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 879 - 19/06/2019 16:16:04
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Replying To southmeathgael: "Some meath fans on here are fast becoming the laughing stock of hoganstand in the build up to this game..... please stop talking BS about age old rivalries, meath raising their game againt the old enemy, meath have never feared dublin, (if we aren't possitive the players havnt a chance, was one of my favourites) etc etc as an argument for how we have a chance. We dont unfortunetely, and admitting that doesnt mean you are less of a meath man/fan then anyone else..... it just means you have a bit of common sense ...... Some are even saying you shouldnt go to the game and arent a real fan if you don't think we have a chance ..hah, there'd be some small crowds at sporting occasions worldwide if that was criteria for attending. Hope is the word I'd use to describe my thoughts on Sunday.....I hope for an excellant performance which in turn may lead to a tighter game then people expect and we'll take it from there. But it's a monumental task, and all logical thinking points to a very comfortable Dublin win." +1
Couldn't agree more.
Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 19/06/2019 16:55:06
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Replying To Royal.Legend: "meath have a chance, a slim one granted but they still have a chance, from what im hearing from the meath camp there playing for a win on sunday which is encouraging to hear, i hope southmeathgael if meath do lose you wont be on hear snearing at the posters who had a bit of hope of a result against the dubs, if we get a bit of luck and meath do win sunday i wonder how long it would be before you post here again." "From what im hearing from the Meath camp, there playing for a win on sunday which is encouraging to hear"
Y'know whats mad about that though, From what im hearing from people around the Dublin camp, and here listen, I may be wrong, it may just be a rumour, but word has it anyway that Dublin are playing for a win, which, in fairness, is encouraging to hear.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 19/06/2019 17:25:21
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Replying To waynoI: ""From what im hearing from the Meath camp, there playing for a win on sunday which is encouraging to hear"
Y'know whats mad about that though, From what im hearing from people around the Dublin camp, and here listen, I may be wrong, it may just be a rumour, but word has it anyway that Dublin are playing for a win, which, in fairness, is encouraging to hear." In fairness to Meath most teams playing Dublin nowadays play not to lose, by too much.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 19/06/2019 17:50:43
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Replying To waynoI: ""From what im hearing from the Meath camp, there playing for a win on sunday which is encouraging to hear"
Y'know whats mad about that though, From what im hearing from people around the Dublin camp, and here listen, I may be wrong, it may just be a rumour, but word has it anyway that Dublin are playing for a win, which, in fairness, is encouraging to hear." Jesus Christ young fella will you give it a rest you know what's meant by that comment, cut the childish s***e out will you please
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 19/06/2019 18:14:50
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Replying To waynoI: ""From what im hearing from the Meath camp, there playing for a win on sunday which is encouraging to hear"
Y'know whats mad about that though, From what im hearing from people around the Dublin camp, and here listen, I may be wrong, it may just be a rumour, but word has it anyway that Dublin are playing for a win, which, in fairness, is encouraging to hear." Could end in a draw so.!
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2141 - 19/06/2019 18:40:36
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Replying To Richieq: "Jesus Christ young fella will you give it a rest you know what's meant by that comment, cut the childish s***e out will you please" Lighten up
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 19/06/2019 18:59:46
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Replying To Furlong1949: "Is there rain Royaldunne?. Wet buckets of rain and dark clouds over the wet soaked hill. It could be the final part of the Royal Rebellion in Croker in the Rain Trilogy.
Part 1 was In 1986, we were massive massive underdogs Dublin had won 9 of the previous 12 leinster titles and played in 9 of the previous 12 All Ireland finals when we played them in 1986. Meath were heroric that day , hounding Dublin for every ball like maniacs and it was a seriously bad day.
Part 2 In 1996 Dublin were reigning All-Ireland champions. Carlow were favourites to beat Meath in first round of championship in 96. We reached the final masive underdogs with bunch of 20 years like Darren Fay and Tevour Giles . And in another wet dirty day , the hill was soaked to the bone as Meath revolution rumbled the Dubs in the rain.
So could Sunday it be Part 3 of the Royal Rebellion in the Rain. A Meath / Dublin dogfight in the rain where u have 15 Meath men and 15 Dublin men hitting hard and fair and u have a battle or should I say 70 mins of war of attrition , where the best army of men stand victorious at the end. Id say even the Dubs would welcome a battle in the rain on Sunday. To give the Dubs their credit they never back down from a challenge. Its now our turn , the turn of 15 Meath men to go to war as the dark cloud comes over Jones Road ..And as the darkness and quiteness falls on Hill 16 , as the Dubs witness another generation of Meath footballers go to war against the Jackeens. I will be definately watching the weather forecast every night now. Let it be a great warm summer. But on 23rd June from 4.00 to 5. 30 let it pour down from the heavens over Croker and let hell be unleashed on the field as the Meath v Dublin dogfight begin. This is not a football match , this is two tribes digging trenchs and 70 mins of hard battling football. Meath just have to remember one thing. Meath and Dublin are not equals , we are better then Dublin. In every way we have always being and always be better then Dublin. We are faster, we r stronger, we r quicker, we are tougher we smarter , we are funnier , we are better dancers , we are better singers we are better storytellers. All these things and much more for generations. We just need to tap into our dna and the rest willl flow.
Its just a rivalry. The Dubs think they are better then Meath. And in Meath as a football county we think we are better then Dublin. Its Slane Castle versus Dublin castle , the Hill of Tara versus Howth Hill , Its Tommy Tiernan versus Ryan Turbity , its Navan Shopping centre versus Blanchardstown shopping centre , its Gordon Elliot versus Brian Kerr, its the Book of kells versus Ulyses, its lisa Hannigan versus Imelda May , Its Bruton versus Bertie , its Johnny Murtagh versus Robbie keane , its bettystown beach versus Dublin bay , its the culchies versus the jackeens , its the boggers versus the city slickers , its the Royals versus the Jackeens. Its Meath versus Dublin.
Oh please please make it be like the games of the 70s 80s and 90..70 mins of manly war of skill and battle where there is only a score between the teams and both teams shakes hand at the end of 70 nins after trying to knock the head of each other for those 70 mins.
A proper Meath Dublin contest nothing comes close. Forget ur Barcelonas and Reals. , Forget ur Celtics and Rangers , forget ur Man Utd and Liverpool, Forget ur leinster and Munster, Meath and Dublin when it is real contest for 70 mins , its puts the above rivals and rivalries in the hapenny place. It just matter more , its Meath versus Dublin." What a load of old b@!!@# ! You're going to get hammered by Dublin! Nothing more to be said!
DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 19/06/2019 19:06:30
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Replying To Joxer: "And rightly so. Meath players and fans should be going into this seeking nothing less than a win, a real one. Anything can happen and the truth is that the Dubs haven't seen a whole lot of this Meath team apart from their OBC win at the Neller, where Meath were easily the better side. I expect that they'll come out fighting. The conditions look poor for Sun so I'm sure Meath won't mind that and this game could get down and dirty, into a right scrap. We need a strong Meath team in Leinster and I think this game could really bring their young fellas on for the rest of the summer. Looking forward to it." That's it, tbh I am getting a little tired of some (fair few allegedly from Meath) trying to shout down anyone saying that Meath could win, is it unlikely? Yes , but bloody hell we can all aspire to it. Otherwise what's the point?? I see some saying donegal are dubs main challenge, and that maybe true, Meath were unlucky twice v donegal who only beat them by small margin in both games. Anyway I am going to watch my beloved Meath play in a Leinster final, and I will go with expecting nothing less than a victory, if it doesn't come to pass , we dust ourselves down and look forward to the next round.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/06/2019 20:46:13
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Replying To Htaem: "I think they're enjoying the all little the thumbs up they're getting from the Dubs for berating their county and fellow county men/women.
They should head for the George on Sunday instead of Croker if they love the thumb up so much ;-)" Boom boom
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/06/2019 20:47:32
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Replying To the_walls: "Don't be playing the auld victim card, particularly when having a read on your forum there is lads being absolutely slated and having their support for Meath questioned for voicing the view (based on football and not on emotional bluster) that they can't see past a very comfortable Dublin win. They might be wrong but that is their objective view. It doesn't mean that they don't want Meath to win any less.
Meath fans (as any fans of any county are) are fully entitled to be optimistic and proclaim that they are going to be right in the mix and have a great chance of beating Dublin. Have at it, no one is stopping you. By the same token, others are fully entitled to completely disagree with you, explain why and tell you that they find your optimism utterly ridiculous and deluded. If it turns out that you boys are correct, you will have great ammunition on Monday to tell everyone you told them so. Until then though, people are fully entitled to challenge your view.
Why would anyone feel you should pull out of the Leinster Championship? Is this some attempt at creating a siege mentality? Just because most people think Leinster is a total procession and will be this year too, doesn't mean that all Leinster counties, including Meath, shouldn't be striving to reel Dublin in." And if I were you I'd be more Worried about Down than been on the homepage of a county you not playing, I don't venture onto any other county forum until a match.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/06/2019 20:51:31
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