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Kerry V Cork

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s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5235 - 22/06/2019 21:10:34    2198696

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Replying To marooney:  "Kerry reduced to fifteen men and needed a big contribution from Anthony Whelan. He didn't let them down."
The free count was pretty shocking alright. 25-10 or something like that, in a game where both teams were fouling as much as each other.
Cork did put in a real effort, especially compared to last year's no-show, but they left a huge amount behind them. Some of their decision making was very poor especially when the game was there for the taking.
Kerry were far cuter and more importantly, far more accurate up front. Cork had the better of the middle-third, but Kerry had the class inside, particularly Clifford.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 565 - 22/06/2019 21:12:06    2198697

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Reality check for our boys.
Was it complacency id hope not but catering last year to a 17 point win might have resulted in it.
Full back line very poor and Shane Ryan made the same error as he made against Mayo.
Fair play to Cork, great to see that performance back, they have the players and the GAA need a strong Cork as do Kerry.
That was a very poot referring performance we got a lot of calls that Cork can feel rightly aggrieved about.
Finally what a beautiful player Clifford is, worth the admission alone.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1224 - 22/06/2019 21:27:08    2198706

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Ref was not good. He blew up for Cork's 4th goal for example. Anyway Cork too 13/26 scoring chances, Kerry were much higher. Kerry have discipline problems too. Anyway hope Cork can kick on into the Super 8's. David Moran was immense for Kerry in midfield.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1659 - 22/06/2019 21:30:43    2198712

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "We are there for the taking in my opinion, Cork might not get as good a chance to beat us again for a long time Donegalman."
I said 10 days ago that Cork had a great chance to beat us as we were there for the taking.

We are very poor and the road looks very clear for the dubs to do the 5 .

I hope Cork don't drop their heads now after that and they make the 8s.

I can't see us doing anything in the 8s ourselves.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9697 - 22/06/2019 21:31:07    2198713

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Replying To marooney:  "Kerry reduced to fifteen men and needed a big contribution from Anthony Whelan. He didn't let them down."
how many players did they start with ?. who is Anthony Whelan ?

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5235 - 22/06/2019 21:38:18    2198720

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Replying To corkcelt:  "Can't believe not one Poster had a good word to say about Cork. I'm bloody proud of them,"
You couldn't criticise them for effort levels. It was just frustrating that they kept shooting themselves in the foot by taking the wrong option.

It was a very strange game. There were moments of excitement but the amount of mistakes was incredible. The defending was comical at times.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 207 - 22/06/2019 21:40:03    2198721

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Interesting game once Cork started taking some of their chances. It was crazy the number of goal chances they created and missed but a more experienced team would have taken points rather than looking for goals all the time. Kerry showed great pace going forward with Clifford and O'Brien causing havoc but their defending left a lot to be desired. Sean O'Shea is a fine player but his tendency to drag out of pacier players could cause problems with a different ref.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1599 - 22/06/2019 22:10:59    2198738

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A massive performance from Anthony Nolan in both halves got Kerry over the line.

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1924 - 22/06/2019 22:13:18    2198741

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Replying To corkcelt:  "Can't believe not one Poster had a good word to say about Cork. I'm bloody proud of them,"
They put in a lot of effort but that's the minimum I'd expect from them.

I see a lot of Cork and their decision making is awful.

They should be doing a lot better.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12723 - 22/06/2019 22:22:34    2198745

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Replying To Lifford Gael:  "A massive performance from Anthony Nolan in both halves got Kerry over the line."
Not going to argue with that he was brutal.

I really don't know what to make of Kerry after that. Any division one team would have beaten us tonight. All they can do now is try to regroup and sort some issues at the back. If they can qualify from their Super 8 group it will be decent progress.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1576 - 22/06/2019 22:28:45    2198747

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Replying To westkerry:  "Reality check for our boys.
Was it complacency id hope not but catering last year to a 17 point win might have resulted in it.
Full back line very poor and Shane Ryan made the same error as he made against Mayo.
Fair play to Cork, great to see that performance back, they have the players and the GAA need a strong Cork as do Kerry.
That was a very poot referring performance we got a lot of calls that Cork can feel rightly aggrieved about.
Finally what a beautiful player Clifford is, worth the admission alone."
Clifford is an absolute joy to watch.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12723 - 22/06/2019 22:36:04    2198754

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Cork can feel rightly aggrieved by the ref tonight. The big teams always get the calls. Kerry ridiculously exposed at the back. Clifford's little hand pass to himself was worthy of a better finish. He is a talent and a half. What a poor turnout too 18k for a Munster final between these two great rivals. It's not just Leinster that's a shambles.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 358 - 22/06/2019 22:38:57    2198760

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Replying To corkcelt:  "Can't believe not one Poster had a good word to say about Cork. I'm bloody proud of them,"
Cork put in a huge performance tonight cork elf, if they had taken their chances in the first half, it could have been a different result. Kerry were better at converting scoring chances in the opening period.
Cork put it up to Kerry in the second half.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1157 - 22/06/2019 22:57:49    2198765

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Cork can feel rightly aggrieved by the ref tonight. The big teams always get the calls. Kerry ridiculously exposed at the back. Clifford's little hand pass to himself was worthy of a better finish. He is a talent and a half. What a poor turnout too 18k for a Munster final between these two great rivals. It's not just Leinster that's a shambles.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 358 - 22/06/2019 23:06:23    2198769

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Shane Ryan is a forward for his club. He made a host of errors in the league but only got found out in the league final...made a replica mistake tonight.
Unfortunately our number 2 Kelly is not up to it either and Shane Murphy our best option left the panel as he was told he would have to settle for no3 this year.

Midfield we are in big trouble...Jack barry still living off his league final performance against the Dubs from 2018.

Paul Geaney also struggling for form like he has for the last few seasons.

Kerry backline all good individually going forward....but cant defend any one running at the.
We are seriously well short of beating yhe Dubs or Mayo/Donegal for that matter unless there are some serious lessons learnt.

Cork put it up to Kerry and showed great spirit but the closeness of the result in my opinion was down to Kerry being abysmal at the back.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2064 - 22/06/2019 23:14:10    2198771

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Replying To HighKings:  "You couldn't criticise them for effort levels. It was just frustrating that they kept shooting themselves in the foot by taking the wrong option.

It was a very strange game. There were moments of excitement but the amount of mistakes was incredible. The defending was comical at times."
To be fair the ref and all that we lost to better footballers. The difference were a couple of top class forwards. I think it was level enough everywhere else on the field.

However, I wouldn't be so adamant about poor standards, like I have read you complain about. We will see tomorrow and I think if you get within 10 points of Dublin you will be bowing down to the football Gods.

Cork are a third division side. They played above that level today and perhaps Kerry below their lofty status. However the cream rose to the top. I have no complaints however I would feel as a proud Cork man that we should always feel like we can beat Kerry on a different day.

I think tomorrow we will see a first division team (just promoted) probably bow down like a 3rd division team to Dublin. Believe me I hope not and would love to see you put it up to them but can't see it.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 164 - 23/06/2019 00:00:08    2198783

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I said 10 days ago that Cork had a great chance to beat us as we were there for the taking.

We are very poor and the road looks very clear for the dubs to do the 5 .

I hope Cork don't drop their heads now after that and they make the 8s.

I can't see us doing anything in the 8s ourselves."
Yeah right , yea were never gonna lose that game , keeping your powder dry, cute Kerry hoorism

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 1869 - 23/06/2019 00:14:46    2198787

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Yeah right , yea were never gonna lose that game , keeping your powder dry, cute Kerry hoorism"
The game was level heading for injury time and we were down to 14 men. Trust me if Cork had a bit more confidence they could have beat us.

Cute hoorism is a waste of time at this stage, people can see what we've got now , we were no better against Clare 3 weeks ago, can we improve that much more in 3 more weeks where we could be meeting a Galway a Mayo or Tyrone or Kildare?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9697 - 23/06/2019 00:44:43    2198794

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Replying To woops:  "Shane Ryan is a forward for his club. He made a host of errors in the league but only got found out in the league final...made a replica mistake tonight.
Unfortunately our number 2 Kelly is not up to it either and Shane Murphy our best option left the panel as he was told he would have to settle for no3 this year.

Midfield we are in big trouble...Jack barry still living off his league final performance against the Dubs from 2018.

Paul Geaney also struggling for form like he has for the last few seasons.

Kerry backline all good individually going forward....but cant defend any one running at the.
We are seriously well short of beating yhe Dubs or Mayo/Donegal for that matter unless there are some serious lessons learnt.

Cork put it up to Kerry and showed great spirit but the closeness of the result in my opinion was down to Kerry being abysmal at the back."
Whoops I agree with you about Barry and Geaney and Geaney is a clubmate of mine but I can't ahree with you about Shane Ryan.

I thought Shane was excellent tonight bar that one blip which in my opinion is a lot down to our lack of a dominant fullback, I remember when Moynihan retired and we were experimenting wit a few different guys at fullback Murph came for a few balls that he shouldn't have and got caught.

Iv seen a lot of Ryan at underage and a bit in underage soccer and he is class, yes he plays out the field for his club and so what ! Shane was being picked to represent Ireland at underage soccer and he gave it up to represent Kerry and for that I give him my full respect.

Shane Murphy was no different to kealy in my opinion.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9697 - 23/06/2019 01:08:11    2198798

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