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On a side note, I thought Niel McManus did a great job in studio. Was that his first time? Serious hurler too obviously.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 950 - 10/06/2019 03:17:35    2192557

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Have people been seriously making that argument or has it just been a wind-up?"
Heard it numerous times. Not just from our neighbours in Clare either.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 579 - 10/06/2019 09:46:44    2192616

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Replying To skillet:  "Heard it numerous times. Not just from our neighbours in Clare either."
Always happens in GAA. "Such-and-such a team would've won the All-Ireland if they won the semi-final".......yeah but they didn't.

I recall in 2007 a lot of people speculating that Waterford would have beaten Kilkenny in that year's All-Ireland final had it not been for Limerick causing an upset in the semi-final. I'm convinced it acted as a motivating factor in the 2008 final as Kilkenny destroyed Waterford that year. Maybe something similar happened yesterday with Limerick v Clare.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1082 - 10/06/2019 10:22:19    2192657

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Always happens in GAA. "Such-and-such a team would've won the All-Ireland if they won the semi-final".......yeah but they didn't.

I recall in 2007 a lot of people speculating that Waterford would have beaten Kilkenny in that year's All-Ireland final had it not been for Limerick causing an upset in the semi-final. I'm convinced it acted as a motivating factor in the 2008 final as Kilkenny destroyed Waterford that year. Maybe something similar happened yesterday with Limerick v Clare."
Think the fear of being knocked out completely was serious enough motivation!!
If we lost yesterday we were gone. Nightmare scenario.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 579 - 10/06/2019 10:56:32    2192692

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Replying To zidane:  "Even the hurling snobs can't defend the absolute muck of an egregious munster hurling championship. Bring back the football to our screens"
Shane S. sure did when reading my comment regarding boring(mostly) Munster games on a recent OTB.

To each their own but give me a gritty, defensive(not extra/sweeper) game. The talent in Munster is worth admiration, it's impressive but still, Leinster for me. The space afforded shooters in many Munster games is often surprising. Cork, when playing well seem to have some real fight, just need some consistency from someone other than the renewed & VERY impressive Pat Horgan ...never a fan, thought he was done, now w/TJ in a run for HOTY.
All that aside, Munster, Leinster, Liam McCarthy or Joe McDonagh, just want to see good hard hurling & an attempt at consistency in refereeing decisions.

Gowran_Yank (Kilkenny) - Posts: 77 - 10/06/2019 14:51:54    2192949

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Replying To zidane:  "Even the hurling snobs can't defend the absolute muck of an egregious munster hurling championship. Bring back the football to our screens"
Oh please don't do that! twas hard enough watch the start of the Sunday game last night!

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 13 - 10/06/2019 17:04:09    2193067

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Replying To zidane:  "Even the hurling snobs can't defend the absolute muck of an egregious munster hurling championship. Bring back the football to our screens"
So what time is the handball throwing in at the weekend? Can players use their feet by any chance and have they to play in certain positions?

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1635 - 11/06/2019 00:03:22    2193285

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The performances last weekend make me even more confident of a munster team winning the AI and an all-munster AI final.
The pick of galway and kk (indeed why not chuck in the rest in leinster) would not produce the hurling tipp and lim have this year. (in fact have I hit on something there to makes things more competitive....we keep the munster championship as it is the most important competition in Irish sport, and just add another team...leinster!!)

PremierGold (Tipperary) - Posts: 110 - 11/06/2019 11:16:35    2193404

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Your dead right..Galway haven't a hope this year just let the Munster lads keep knocking lumps out of each other and hopefully Galway might sneek into a Leinster Final win it and sleader into an All Ireland Semi Final without even playing outstanding this year or getting out of 1st gear.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 742 - 11/06/2019 13:47:45    2193492

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Replying To PremierGold:  "The performances last weekend make me even more confident of a munster team winning the AI and an all-munster AI final.
The pick of galway and kk (indeed why not chuck in the rest in leinster) would not produce the hurling tipp and lim have this year. (in fact have I hit on something there to makes things more competitive....we keep the munster championship as it is the most important competition in Irish sport, and just add another team...leinster!!)"
We ll have to wait and see what happens in the AI series. Waterford and Clare have been poor this year and Cork inconsistent. Be interesting to see how the Tipp v Limerick game pans out. I doubt either side will score 2-30 or anything like it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 794 - 11/06/2019 13:54:41    2193498

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Replying To PremierGold:  "The performances last weekend make me even more confident of a munster team winning the AI and an all-munster AI final.
The pick of galway and kk (indeed why not chuck in the rest in leinster) would not produce the hurling tipp and lim have this year. (in fact have I hit on something there to makes things more competitive....we keep the munster championship as it is the most important competition in Irish sport, and just add another team...leinster!!)"
Be carefull what you wish for, during the 70s and 80s, the munster championship was a total wash out, tipp disappeared off the face of the earth for nearly twenty years, was totally dominated in that period by cork with the odd appearance by limerick. With the standards of Clare and Waterford this year are we returning to them years, on paper that is what it looks like.
Limerick are at the moment a fantastic team but will need to make hay now when they have that talent and try to put back to back all Ireland's.
Tipp no more than average with wins against poor sides in Waterford and clare, Limerick will prove that next weekend, old players and basically the same team that floped last year.
Was not that long ago that people were proposing an all ireland final pairing of Kilkenny vs the rest of ireland.
What goes around comes around!! Leinster is far more competitive this year, with munster final paring of cork Limerick obvious from the start

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 446 - 11/06/2019 14:11:46    2193505

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Be carefull what you wish for, during the 70s and 80s, the munster championship was a total wash out, tipp disappeared off the face of the earth for nearly twenty years, was totally dominated in that period by cork with the odd appearance by limerick. With the standards of Clare and Waterford this year are we returning to them years, on paper that is what it looks like.
Limerick are at the moment a fantastic team but will need to make hay now when they have that talent and try to put back to back all Ireland's.
Tipp no more than average with wins against poor sides in Waterford and clare, Limerick will prove that next weekend, old players and basically the same team that floped last year.
Was not that long ago that people were proposing an all ireland final pairing of Kilkenny vs the rest of ireland.
What goes around comes around!! Leinster is far more competitive this year, with munster final paring of cork Limerick obvious from the start"
"Tipp no more than average with wins against poor sides in Waterford and clare, Limerick will prove that next weekend,"

Are you not giving us any credit for beating Cork in Cork!!! (who beat Lim)
Nothing will be proved next weekend, the potential munster and AI finals is where its proved.
If you are too old at 28-29 there is something strange going on, only 1 Tipp player 30.
Leinster is only competitive as its a race to the bottom.
We might try the Wexford model this weekend....play 3 sweepers and miss all our frees!!

PremierGold (Tipperary) - Posts: 110 - 11/06/2019 15:17:43    2193533

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Be carefull what you wish for, during the 70s and 80s, the munster championship was a total wash out, tipp disappeared off the face of the earth for nearly twenty years, was totally dominated in that period by cork with the odd appearance by limerick. With the standards of Clare and Waterford this year are we returning to them years, on paper that is what it looks like.
Limerick are at the moment a fantastic team but will need to make hay now when they have that talent and try to put back to back all Ireland's.
Tipp no more than average with wins against poor sides in Waterford and clare, Limerick will prove that next weekend, old players and basically the same team that floped last year.
Was not that long ago that people were proposing an all ireland final pairing of Kilkenny vs the rest of ireland.
What goes around comes around!! Leinster is far more competitive this year, with munster final paring of cork Limerick obvious from the start"
Limerick won four titles, when it really meant something, between 1973 and 1981. That was a solid team, who wentt toe to toe with the best of them

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2285 - 11/06/2019 16:10:18    2193559

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At least in Munster we know who were bad and who are good.
There all so bad in Leinster you can't tell them apart!!
Standard has dropped an awful lot!!!

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1635 - 11/06/2019 18:00:13    2193609

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with munster final paring of cork Limerick obvious from the start
tonydoranfan (Wexford)

How do you make that out?

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 551 - 11/06/2019 18:12:14    2193619

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Limerick won four titles, when it really meant something, between 1973 and 1981. That was a solid team, who wentt toe to toe with the best of them"
Cork wexford limerick and Kilkenny were the four strong teams during the 70s, hopefully limerick will stay in the top and challenge every year against the 3 super powers
, wexford still have a bit to go

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 446 - 11/06/2019 18:59:20    2193636

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Replying To WildPundit:  "At least in Munster we know who were bad and who are good.
There all so bad in Leinster you can't tell them apart!!
Standard has dropped an awful lot!!!"
Very witty reply I must say, be very very carefull in tipp you don't return to the dark days of the 70s and 80s
It will never be far away I'm afraid

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 446 - 11/06/2019 19:01:40    2193639

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Limerick won four titles, when it really meant something, between 1973 and 1981. That was a solid team, who wentt toe to toe with the best of them"
Wexford won 3 Leinster titles in the 1970s- a decade where Kilkenny had possibly their strongest team of the Millenium. Unfortunately for us Cork did too. Limerick shouldve won Liam more than once also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 794 - 12/06/2019 14:31:40    2193958

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Replying To WildPundit:  "At least in Munster we know who were bad and who are good.
There all so bad in Leinster you can't tell them apart!!
Standard has dropped an awful lot!!!"
Y are Munster teams not running away with Liam and the League every year then?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 794 - 12/06/2019 14:32:32    2193960

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Very interesting thread.

One major difference I see between hurling now & when I was a kid (early 80's) is there are far more set plays and stats these days than back then. The puck out has become central to the game and teams set up from there to win as high a % of tackles, blocks and hooks to turn over.

In the 1980's it was more off the cuff and a classic example was the 84 Munster Final. Tipp 4 up with a couple of minutes to go, one mistake from the keeper and suddenly Cork won by 4. There was a lot more individual brilliance then compared to now where it is the system and formations that stick out.

I'm biased - can look at any game of hurling and think it is great even if it ends 0-8 apiece. But hurling has taken science & data from other sports and it has evolved just like any sport. Yet it is still the sport that sets the blood racing, nothing like it.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6189 - 12/06/2019 15:25:36    2193981

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