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Replying To Oldtourman: "Yes, and I'm no fan of Tipp, but who inflicted two of the three biggest defeats on KK that they got this century?" In fairness the shoe has firmly been on the other foot with regards to dishing out beatings. BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 04/06/2019 12:18:59 2190473 Link
Replying To BliainanÁir: "In fairness the shoe has firmly been on the other foot with regards to dishing out beatings." Indeed it has! Kilkenny 4-24 Tipp 1-15 being one standout from 2012. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 04/06/2019 16:07:48 2190554 Link
Replying To BliainanÁir: "In fairness the shoe has firmly been on the other foot with regards to dishing out beatings." Of course from 1922 to 2002 KK beat Tipp once in eight meetings, so that might even up the record a bit Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 04/06/2019 16:58:01 2190568 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Of course from 1922 to 2002 KK beat Tipp once in eight meetings, so that might even up the record a bit" That was 'old' Tipp. More substance and less flash than some recent vintages. I'm not Tipp bashing, I'm a big fan of the teams of the 50s and 60s and skill of outstanding, consistent players like Seamie Callinan. Just they should have won more AI's than 2010 and 2016. The right man is at the helm again. I'm a fan of all hurling counties from Antrim to Cork, Galway to Dublin because I love the game. Just no county can get carried away. 4th June in every county still in contention. BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 04/06/2019 17:07:00 2190575 Link
Replying To BliainanÁir: "It doesn't matter what county you come from, the stats I gave you are the stats. Tiobraid and other Tipp posters are sensible but yours is the type of thinking and bluster that has Tipperary underachieving. It's a fact ye get the jitters against KK quite a lot. I being from Laois is irrelevant to that. Does anyone remember that poster 'Thurles Blues' ? You sound very similar. For what it's worth Tipp are in a better position this year as Sheedy will keep them grounded from believing the rubbish lads like you spout. Kilkenny are my second team. Kilkenny father and mother. So I'll admire them if I want, there are no set rules about who you support after your county of birth. There has been dismissal of Wexford, Dublin, Kilkenny and Galway and hyperbole with regard to Limerick, Cork and Tipp and it's 4th June. If Galway get JC back and start firing they're a fine side. KK won't be easy beat and Wex and Dublin will give anyone their fill of it." I dont agree with the other Tipp supporter's post but it's unfair to say Tipp imploded in allof those games. 2012 was a disaster and we imploded in the second half for sure. That was bizarre management. We were the only team that came close to KK for years. Granted I thought we had the beating of them a few times but it wasnt to be. People make out this Tipp team to be a team that should have won about 6 All Ireland's which is ridiculous. In living memory KK are the only team who have done that. The team is driven by one sucessful underage team. Other counties have had far more success at underage and never reached the heights Tipp have. The Sheedy factor is overstated. Hunger is everything at this level and only KK under Cody has maintained that hunger year after year. Every other All Ireland winner outside of Cork in mid 00's havent put big years back to back in a long long time. These are amateur players. Give them a break! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/06/2019 20:55:05 2190654 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "I dont agree with the other Tipp supporter's post but it's unfair to say Tipp imploded in allof those games. 2012 was a disaster and we imploded in the second half for sure. That was bizarre management. We were the only team that came close to KK for years. Granted I thought we had the beating of them a few times but it wasnt to be. People make out this Tipp team to be a team that should have won about 6 All Ireland's which is ridiculous. In living memory KK are the only team who have done that. The team is driven by one sucessful underage team. Other counties have had far more success at underage and never reached the heights Tipp have. The Sheedy factor is overstated. Hunger is everything at this level and only KK under Cody has maintained that hunger year after year. Every other All Ireland winner outside of Cork in mid 00's havent put big years back to back in a long long time. These are amateur players. Give them a break!" I'm judging them by high standards. KK managed to back up 2014 with a 'functional' team in 2015. That Tipp 2010 was no ordinary team, the U21s that year were spined by the same players. Somewhere from 2011-2015 they should have picked up another AI. When in their prime. 2014 and Hawk Eye was hard luck. 2011 was competitive. 2009 a classic. Yes I exaggerated some Tipp defeats because that other Tipp poster was a pain. In my opinion that Tipp team should have had 3-4 All Irelands. If the Mahers, McGraths, Callinan, win this year's All Ireland I'd say hats off 3 All Ireland's in a decade for that core. Probably some of it has to do with poor management like the 2012 semi. Not forgetting Noel McGrath's serious illness. But I think ye may have had one or two more inclined to party! BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 04/06/2019 21:19:11 2190667 Link
...2014 and Hawk Eye was hard luck. BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 198 - 04/06/2019 21:19:11 Hard luck? ,Are you suggesting a last minute controversial free that was wide, should have been given? There was nothing lucky about it, the best team (Kilkenny) won in the end. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2460 - 04/06/2019 22:00:50 2190678 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: " ...2014 and Hawk Eye was hard luck. BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 198 - 04/06/2019 21:19:11 Hard luck? ,Are you suggesting a last minute controversial free that was wide, should have been given? There was nothing lucky about it, the best team (Kilkenny) won in the end." Ha ha ha! Hard luck with the strike. What poor oul Brian Hogan did to concede it..yeah you've a point. But as Brian Cody said in 2009 re. Richie Power penalty query by Marty Morrissey.. did you go back over every free in that game and analysis it?? BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 04/06/2019 22:26:52 2190692 Link
Are munster hurling fans as some would say hurling snobs turning people off hurling?? Plenty of hurling snobs complain about football but then we start copying football tactics like sweepers and the possession game. Are hurling fans(snowflakes) in denial of puke hurling and are incapable of taken constructive criticism? brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 05/06/2019 18:12:07 2190959 Link
Any chance of a decent game in Munster lads? SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 589 - 09/06/2019 17:29:49 2192241 Link
Even the hurling snobs can't defend the absolute muck of an egregious munster hurling championship. Bring back the football to our screens zidane (Galway) - Posts: 272 - 09/06/2019 18:05:21 2192257 Link
Replying To zidane: "Even the hurling snobs can't defend the absolute muck of an egregious munster hurling championship. Bring back the football to our screens" As a limerick fan, I'm happy with how 'terrible' the munster championship has been :D lim tipp next week will be a cracker tho blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 09/06/2019 18:34:45 2192292 Link
Replying To blackspot91: "As a limerick fan, I'm happy with how 'terrible' the munster championship has been :D lim tipp next week will be a cracker tho" Doubt if it will be anything resembling a cracker. Tipp are already in the Munster final so hardly any point in them giving it everything when they may well be playing the same opposition a couple of weeks later. I expect Sheedy may use it to give some of his panel a run out. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 09/06/2019 19:46:05 2192336 Link
You wouldn't get Americans talking down a national sport in this way. I suppose complaining is in our dna. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 09/06/2019 20:22:59 2192367 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Doubt if it will be anything resembling a cracker. Tipp are already in the Munster final so hardly any point in them giving it everything when they may well be playing the same opposition a couple of weeks later. I expect Sheedy may use it to give some of his panel a run out." Almost already in the final. Still a small chance they lose out to Limk and Cork on points difference Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 09/06/2019 20:38:13 2192377 Link
... Clare would have won the all Ireland had they gotten over Galway ..." Puts that particular argument to rest at least. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 09/06/2019 21:11:39 2192406 Link
Hard to watch it live and even more difficult on TV. A foul every 10 seconds with a free every 30 seconds. Throw it around like snuff at a wake. What have they done to our lovely manly game, where two hurlers could pull on the ball, on the ground and in the air. Sad JackMurphy (Cork) - Posts: 30 - 09/06/2019 22:17:27 2192462 Link
Replying To skillet: "... Clare would have won the all Ireland had they gotten over Galway ..." Puts that particular argument to rest at least." Have people been seriously making that argument or has it just been a wind-up? ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 09/06/2019 22:29:43 2192474 Link
Replying To JackMurphy: "Hard to watch it live and even more difficult on TV. A foul every 10 seconds with a free every 30 seconds. Throw it around like snuff at a wake. What have they done to our lovely manly game, where two hurlers could pull on the ball, on the ground and in the air. Sad" I have to say I felt a bit the same watching KK and Galway. Well conditioned players and a lot of skills and excitement. But all the serious physical training means, pardon the pun, there wasn't room to swing a cat. I've a bit of a longing for some of the ground and aerial hurling skills of say, off the top of my head, Offaly in the 90s. The likes of Johnny Dooley and John Troy would be horsed out of it now. Anyone remember the mid 1990s Guinness hurling lad with muscled adonises with angry faces bursting down a tunnel? It seems you have to be built like those lads now. Don't get me wrong a struggle of evenly matched, committed teams but yeah something missing. BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 09/06/2019 22:43:10 2192490 Link
Replying To JackMurphy: "Hard to watch it live and even more difficult on TV. A foul every 10 seconds with a free every 30 seconds. Throw it around like snuff at a wake. What have they done to our lovely manly game, where two hurlers could pull on the ball, on the ground and in the air. Sad" Nothing hard about it when you are winning. There was plenty poor games years ago as well. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 09/06/2019 23:56:26 2192533 Link