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Replying To perfect10:  "its great to see such pulsating hurling in waterford,lots of great scores,no wides,good free flowing hurling....
oh no co commentator just mentioned a sweeper,how dare he"
Remember the reason why both teams are using sweepers because Waterford set up that was. And fat good it has been for them. Totally ridiculous tactics by Waterford in the first half.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1254 - 02/06/2019 14:56:47    2189791

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Simply not right. They beat Kilkenny in semi finals in 1953, 1986, 2001 and 2005. Tipperary in 1987, 1993 and 2005, Cork in 75, 79 85 and 2012 , Offaly in 80 and after two great games Limerick in 81. The only time they got there, as in the final, softly was in 55 and 58, when a totally absurd system was in place."
Prior to the first back door system being introduced in in 1997 1 in every 3 years the Munster and Leinster champions would play each other in the All Ireland semi final (this was the system in place when I was growing up) that is what I meant they often had an easy path to the final. In my original post I mentioned the 1980's as the point when Galway started having a decent team, looking at your stats it would have been more accurate to say mid 1970's.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 567 - 02/06/2019 15:16:00    2189795

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Good god what has happened Waterford, fact is if they finish the championship with no wins their still safe which is ridiculous. Two finalists in Joe McDonagh should go up and bottom team in Munster and Leinster should be relegated.

ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 176 - 02/06/2019 15:22:28    2189799

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Prior to the first back door system being introduced in in 1997 1 in every 3 years the Munster and Leinster champions would play each other in the All Ireland semi final (this was the system in place when I was growing up) that is what I meant they often had an easy path to the final. In my original post I mentioned the 1980's as the point when Galway started having a decent team, looking at your stats it would have been more accurate to say mid 1970's."
Just not correct.I've no recall of Munster hurling champs playing Leinster hurling champs in an All Ireland semi final and I'm following the game since the early 70s.
It may have happened in the 50s on one occasion.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 02/06/2019 15:27:16    2189801

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Replying To bloodyban:  "It's still a high quality game compared to what your lot offers."
I wouldn't agree to be honest, Waterford are absolutely dreadful at the moment. I thought Kerry weren't let in because they couldn't compete? I think the point you are missing though bloodyban is that every game is high quality when our own counties is winning, this is not a high quality game its a mismatch.
But anyway, I think it is time everybody on here got over themselves and realised
1. There are good and bad years for hurling. Not every year is going to be a classic. Last year was great, time to stop comparing every match to it.
2. Not every match has to be a 2-30 to 2-29 shoot out. Not every game will be either.
3. Everybody plays some sort of defensive system, call it sweeper, 2nd goalkeeper, whatever. Teams are going to play as they see fit.
4. There is no need for hurling people to blow smoke up their rear ends after every good match. There is great games of football (has been plenty of them this year), there is great games of soccer, there are great games of tiddly winks.
5. The days of the keeper driving a puck out down the pitch, and Billy Byrne or Christy Heffernan or Cormac Bonner (I deliberately picked 3 who I wasn't born to witness playing!) at the edge of the square, is gone. Tactics and game plans are good for the game. Not the end of the world if teams and players are thinking about how to play the game.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 436 - 02/06/2019 15:28:42    2189802

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "What nonsense are you spouting.......everyone knows Waterford play a defensive structure....as do Wexford.....common denominator for both counties....."
Waterford gave theirs up this year get with the times......and see where that got them.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 613 - 02/06/2019 18:10:07    2189859

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Replying To bloodyban:  "It's still a high quality game compared to what your lot offers."
Sorry lad watched both Munster games on telly today and neither were as interesting or exciting as Galway v Wexford, Kilkenny v Dublin, or Wexford v Dublin. Hopefully Clare v Cork, Limerick v Clare and Tipp v Limerick will be exciting evenly matched games. And not neccessarily scorefests just good hard games of hurling!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 613 - 02/06/2019 18:17:37    2189866

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Prior to the first back door system being introduced in in 1997 1 in every 3 years the Munster and Leinster champions would play each other in the All Ireland semi final (this was the system in place when I was growing up) that is what I meant they often had an easy path to the final. In my original post I mentioned the 1980's as the point when Galway started having a decent team, looking at your stats it would have been more accurate to say mid 1970's."
Wrong there. Most of the time from 1970 on at least, and indeed before 59 except for a few years in the mid fifties Galway and the Ulster champs played either the Munster or Leinster Champs every second year.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2047 - 02/06/2019 19:21:55    2189908

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Replying To Dec82:  "Jesus wept, your like the rain man of hurling."
I am sure Jesus has more important things to weep about.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2047 - 02/06/2019 19:28:10    2189911

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Replying To Viking66:  "Sorry lad watched both Munster games on telly today and neither were as interesting or exciting as Galway v Wexford, Kilkenny v Dublin, or Wexford v Dublin. Hopefully Clare v Cork, Limerick v Clare and Tipp v Limerick will be exciting evenly matched games. And not neccessarily scorefests just good hard games of hurling!"
Wexford v Galway was junior hurling.. nobody got to see the rest of the games your talking about because the Munster Championship is the only Championship on TV ....whys that I wonder. Wait until the quarter finals when Dublin ,Wexford are knocked out ...at least Dublin will have a cut. Wexford probably wont even turn up like last year...
Today there were two average games in adverse conditions. Wait until its backing the big boy stadiums next week and ye can all sit back and relax

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 02/06/2019 19:49:37    2189927

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After 12 liam McCarthy championship games Dublin vs wexford has been the game of the championship, only topped by offaly vs antrim yesterday in joe mcdonagh, watched the full game it was great entertainment

wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 1475 - 02/06/2019 19:52:08    2189930

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Replying To Barnowl94:  "Just not correct.I've no recall of Munster hurling champs playing Leinster hurling champs in an All Ireland semi final and I'm following the game since the early 70s.
It may have happened in the 50s on one occasion."
My mistake, I remember the semi finals taking place each year as a double header and Galway and Antrim always being in them but looking at some fixtures from 1980's championships I can now see the Leinster and Munster champs were actually in opposite semi finals for the 5 years I looked. I assumed they rotated what provincial champions played each other the same way they did for the football semi finals as I knew from a hurling match program I read that Tipp and Kilkenny had played each other in some semi finals in the pre back door era. I thought it was only since 1997 the GAA have been twerking the format of their All Ireland series, it seems to have always been so, some years quarter finals, some years not. When I looked up the 1958 championship when Tipp and Kilkenny played in the semi final Galway actually played their first match of the championship in the All Ireland final.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 567 - 02/06/2019 20:21:17    2189953

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Wexford v Galway was junior hurling.. nobody got to see the rest of the games your talking about because the Munster Championship is the only Championship on TV ....whys that I wonder. Wait until the quarter finals when Dublin ,Wexford are knocked out ...at least Dublin will have a cut. Wexford probably wont even turn up like last year...
Today there were two average games in adverse conditions. Wait until its backing the big boy stadiums next week and ye can all sit back and relax"
Embarrassing post

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 809 - 02/06/2019 20:30:37    2189958

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Wexford v Galway was junior hurling.. nobody got to see the rest of the games your talking about because the Munster Championship is the only Championship on TV ....whys that I wonder. Wait until the quarter finals when Dublin ,Wexford are knocked out ...at least Dublin will have a cut. Wexford probably wont even turn up like last year...
Today there were two average games in adverse conditions. Wait until its backing the big boy stadiums next week and ye can all sit back and relax"
still not over 96 then or did you not see 2 absolute drubbings today?if wexford or offaly lost to kk like that there would have been all sorts of jibes and remarks.when it happens in munster its "wait 2 months and we will see".....
youse are absolutely deluded if you dont think munster championship has been very poor this year

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3342 - 02/06/2019 20:32:23    2189960

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Replying To wexico15:  "After 12 liam McCarthy championship games Dublin vs wexford has been the game of the championship, only topped by offaly vs antrim yesterday in joe mcdonagh, watched the full game it was great entertainment"
Have to agree but looks like the mcdonagh cup has been better

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 379 - 02/06/2019 20:42:30    2189967

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Well two teams today list, Waterford and Clare, systems just dont work, Limerick hve right balance.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4003 - 02/06/2019 22:15:07    2190010

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Looking at the fixtures it's still very exciting. Limerick v Tipp is the clash of the titans. Cork have it all to play for v waterford. Clare vs limerick and Cork sound exciting.

Right now my top 3 are Tipp, limerick and Cork but I wouldn't rule Clare out.

In Leinster all 4 bar carlow have a great chance.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2621 - 02/06/2019 23:16:29    2190034

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Jez we've had to put up with puke football for years and now a couple of one sided games and the whingers are out in force.
Personally I don't like this new format of round robin games but it is what it is.
Can't expect absolute hammer and tongs week in week out unless every team plays two totally new 15.
Tipp have played 3 games and won all very well but we have no trophy in the bag still have to play the all Ireland Champions might meet them again in a Munster final come end of that 5 hard tough games and another 3 to win Liam. Tipp could easily falter away and the likes of Cork or Kilkenny catch fire so all in all its only start of June and we're expecting the championship to be amazing already.
Teams will get better and I reckon once it gets to final 6 or so the games will get better.
Mind you Clare v Limerick and Clare v Cork should be two cracking games.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1626 - 03/06/2019 00:17:59    2190044

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Replying To Westfester:  "Embarrassing post"
Agree Westchester, unfortunately it's due to the likes of BB limerick posters have a bad name on this forum

wexico15 (Wexford) - Posts: 1475 - 03/06/2019 01:46:55    2190053

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Wexford v Galway was junior hurling.. nobody got to see the rest of the games your talking about because the Munster Championship is the only Championship on TV ....whys that I wonder. Wait until the quarter finals when Dublin ,Wexford are knocked out ...at least Dublin will have a cut. Wexford probably wont even turn up like last year...
Today there were two average games in adverse conditions. Wait until its backing the big boy stadiums next week and ye can all sit back and relax"
Well despite what you might say it was senior inter county hurling played by two strong teams. The result was in doubt till the final blow. Hits were hard , conditions were tough but both sides gave their all unlike today when Waterford threw in the towel after 20 minutes and Clare did so after 50 minutes.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 03/06/2019 03:03:45    2190054

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