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Replying To Jedobi:  "Galway weren't good enough to beat Wexford, get over it."
Both teams lost but the biggest loser was hurling in general. Puke hurling will soon have 15 men behind each 65 with a high wide count and possession hurling

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 30/05/2019 23:54:47    2189277

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Replying To katser:  "I think Clare will beat Tipp Sunday!"
You also thought galway would beat wexford by 6 to 10...... how'd that go?? I also see you tipped against limerick again for Sunday of course you're entitled to your opinion. It must have really really hurt you last yr to lose to Limerick as you obviously have some issue with us maybe you should speak with someone re you're prejudices

someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 30/05/2019 23:56:38    2189278

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well ye with 58 without winning, but we wont comment on that."
57 actually.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 31/05/2019 02:42:07    2189285

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Um.... Limerick have won 5 U21 All Ireland's since the year 2000 and Galway have won 3. U21 is by far a better barometer of adult hurling than minor.... Um... where are Limericks bucket load of All Ireland's? Or do facts only come into when they suit yourself? Galway have never lost an All Ireland they should of won other than last year. Every other year we were beaten fair square by better teams. 1990 against Cork hurts though. And of course last year. A lost All Ireland that will always leave a sour taste. Give a team a 60 minute head start, hurl for 10 mins and lose by a point. Hard to believe. No Limerick man, supporter or player has ever been in a position to lecture other teams about what they should or should not achieved. Your own under achievements speak for themselves. Or maybe you'd like to discuss Offaly for a while?"
Right. Lets discuss Offaly in 1994. I attended every match Offaly and Limerick played in that year. Now I have no hesitation in saying Offaly were the best team in that championship. They played Kilkenny in the Leinster Semi Final. In the first fifteen KK were cruising and were eight points up. Offaly introduced big Daithi Regan to midfield and in the twinkling of an eye the whole scene turned on its head. By half time Kilkenny were fifteen points down, but they had half the match left to rectify the situation. They reduced the deficit to eight points at the end, but they never looked like overhauling Offaly. In the Leinster Final Wexford were holding their own, when an absolute cracker by John Troy turned the whole trend of the game and again the situation was irretrievable. They also took out a very fine Galway side, that had ran KK very close and beaten Tipp well the previous year. So like every team that ever won an All Ireland Offaly were worthy champions in 1994. And remember they destroyed KK on a very wet day in the Leinster Final of 95.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/05/2019 07:45:43    2189293

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Probably shouldn't be bothered responding to you cos your post shows how little you know about the factors contributing to our poor All Ireland record. It is a self evident fact that the old system of direct entry to All Ireland semi finals is the major reason why we have such an appalling All Ireland final record. It also didnt give us a way of measuring the real quality of our underage teams because even though they had been relatively successful, winning 2 games to win an All Ireland didnt really tell us how good or not good they were. Since 2008 we are on a more level playing field and our modern senior record should only be judged from that year on. At the moment it stands at 1 win from 4 which indeed is bad, but over the course of the next 30 or 40 years it should balance out"
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My friend nobody takes any notice, least of all county county selectors, of what goes on in Hogan stand. It is all a bit of banter. This whole tread has been set up by a ballhopper and is an invitation to nonsensical discourse, involving auld curmudgeons, like myself, who have nothing else to do except attempt to 'rise' other auld codgers. Any of us should not take ourselves too seriously- I certainly dont. As regards the two games argument I might however say if Limerick had won the 74 Final they would have played only three games, the same Galway would have played in 81. They played four games in 73, but one was against London. We were in the final in 80 and only played three matches., with a full six weeks break after the Munster Final. So I am not convinced that playing in a Provincial was big advantage as people make out. The six weeks break thing was a pure joke anyway.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/05/2019 08:04:08    2189295

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Replying To brisbane:  "Yes i agree Galway is being dragged down to wexfords standard of puke hurling playing with sweepers and the hand passing possession game."
Brisbane has never recovered from having a Tipperary Cardinal (Dunne) followed by a Limerick one (Duhig).

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/05/2019 08:06:36    2189296

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Replying To someday:  "You also thought galway would beat wexford by 6 to 10...... how'd that go?? I also see you tipped against limerick again for Sunday of course you're entitled to your opinion. It must have really really hurt you last yr to lose to Limerick as you obviously have some issue with us maybe you should speak with someone re you're prejudices"
Are you stalking me lol! Most of the country predicted Galway against Wexford so no worries there as Galway are plodding along quietly waiting for the big fish in Croke Park later!! I did get Cork to beat ye but sorry I didn't go for 6-10 Ha!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 31/05/2019 10:13:01    2189321

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Lads, several posts here had nothing to say about what was perceived as puke hurling between Galway and Wexford. The posts that did mention Galway and Wexford failed to mention the appalling conditions that both teams had to endure during the game. The strong wind did not account for every error and wide but it certainly did not help. Let's not write off teams on the basis of one performance in less than ideal conditions.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1062 - 31/05/2019 10:19:53    2189325

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So another thread descends into a boring tit-for-tat over nothing.

Maybe if the admins did their job, we might get back to discussing hurling at some stage this summer?

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 31/05/2019 11:36:43    2189348

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "So another thread descends into a boring tit-for-tat over nothing.

Maybe if the admins did their job, we might get back to discussing hurling at some stage this summer?"
Not much more to discuss on this match lad. Or on the puke guy from out West. Ive noticed though that supporters of the big 3 winners of Liam are few and far between on the Forums. I guess all of us from so called lesser counties must have more to say because we ve all been bridesmaids for too long.......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11799 - 31/05/2019 11:44:56    2189352

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Replying To katser:  "Are you stalking me lol! Most of the country predicted Galway against Wexford so no worries there as Galway are plodding along quietly waiting for the big fish in Croke Park later!! I did get Cork to beat ye but sorry I didn't go for 6-10 Ha!"
Sorry katser you must be mixing me up with someone else I don't ever remember replying to your hook lines and yes of course we all can call them wrong. Re Galway sorry genuinely don't see ye doing anything this yr canning or no canning on board this isn't a dig at anyone from galway its my genuine opinion and before people come back saying Limerick are this and that I do accept its very possible we won't be doing much either but obviously hope we will

someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 31/05/2019 20:04:09    2189482

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Replying To someday:  "Sorry katser you must be mixing me up with someone else I don't ever remember replying to your hook lines and yes of course we all can call them wrong. Re Galway sorry genuinely don't see ye doing anything this yr canning or no canning on board this isn't a dig at anyone from galway its my genuine opinion and before people come back saying Limerick are this and that I do accept its very possible we won't be doing much either but obviously hope we will"
That's fair enough...but I still believe Galway will be in the last 4 and sure anything can happen from there!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 31/05/2019 20:58:15    2189496

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Brisbane has never recovered from having a Tipperary Cardinal (Dunne) followed by a Limerick one (Duhig)."
What are you on about??? LMAO

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 01/06/2019 00:50:14    2189544

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To StoreysTash:  "So another thread descends into a boring tit-for-tat over nothing.

Maybe if the admins did their job, we might get back to discussing hurling at some stage this summer?"
Not much more to discuss on this match lad. Or on the puke guy from out West. Ive noticed though that supporters of the big 3 winners of Liam are few and far between on the Forums. I guess all of us from so called lesser counties must have more to say because we ve all been bridesmaids for too long......."
Wexford posters are in denial of the puke hurling davy has them playing. Daly also brought it to Dublin when he was in charge so the clare boys have a lot to answer for

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 01/06/2019 00:56:12    2189545

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Replying To ZUL10:  "The term 'puke hurling' is generalisation that serves no respect to the individuals who play it. This individual deserves a similar reply."
So direct it at him as an individual, as I said, instead of generalising a whole county.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2038 - 01/06/2019 06:36:38    2189555

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well we won eight to Galways five All Irelands with about half the hurling population. I know both counties should probably won more, but there you go. 'Galway have never lost an All Ireland they should have won'. Really?? What about Offaly 81 and 85 for starters when ye were raging hot favourites on each occcasion. Your the people that should talk about Offaly indeed. And you come up with this nonsense that a county from that was playing in its fifth All Ireland Final in seven years handled the occasion so badly that they did not start hurling for sixty minutes. And they playing against a side who had not a single player who played in a final before, as indeed was the the case with Offaly in 81."
Whoa !!!! Stall the digger . You're losing the run of yourself there . You're talking about a group of players some of whom have played in five All Ireland finals since 2012 if you include the replay that year . They gave a very good account of themselves in four of those five finals. In 2015,2016 and 2017 they were involved in three epic semi finals against a cracking Tipp side two of which they won. Your own county has managed to play in five All Ireland finals since your last win in 1973 and you have also only won one of those five. You slag off Galway's performance in last years final. That team was running on fumes after last years drawn Leinster Final and understandably so given what they had done in 2017. They had nothing left in the tank yet they still managed to drag themselves to within a point of an All Ireland through sheer will to win despite the fact that a lot of the team have been there for at least seven years. Let's see if Limerick defend their title this year as well as Galway defended theirs last year. I'm not posting this out of disrespect for the Limerick hurlers whom I admire greatly . Maybe you could show the same respect to a group of Galway hurlers who have given immense enjoyment to many sports fans the length and breadth of the country.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 01/06/2019 06:39:20    2189556

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Probably shouldn't be bothered responding to you cos your post shows how little you know about the factors contributing to our poor All Ireland record. It is a self evident fact that the old system of direct entry to All Ireland semi finals is the major reason why we have such an appalling All Ireland final record. It also didnt give us a way of measuring the real quality of our underage teams because even though they had been relatively successful, winning 2 games to win an All Ireland didnt really tell us how good or not good they were. Since 2008 we are on a more level playing field and our modern senior record should only be judged from that year on. At the moment it stands at 1 win from 4 which indeed is bad, but over the course of the next 30 or 40 years it should balance out"
For years the old system was the reason Galway got to so many finals, loads of the finals they got there without facing any of the serious teams. Most of the finals they got to back then was not on merit but due to a system system which gave them an easy path to the final (1 in 3 years they got to a final without playing a serious team in Munster or Leinster). It is for this reason quoting their 'bad' record in finals under the old system as if they performed badly in those finals is ridiculous, they performed as expected in most of those finals. Up until the 1980's Galway were just not a very strong hurling team. It was almost a bit like when the GAA used some years used to play an 'away' League final in New York.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1343 - 01/06/2019 10:52:57    2189579

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Replying To brisbane:  "
Replying To Viking66:  "[quote=StoreysTash:  "So another thread descends into a boring tit-for-tat over nothing.

Maybe if the admins did their job, we might get back to discussing hurling at some stage this summer?"
Not much more to discuss on this match lad. Or on the puke guy from out West. Ive noticed though that supporters of the big 3 winners of Liam are few and far between on the Forums. I guess all of us from so called lesser counties must have more to say because we ve all been bridesmaids for too long......."
Wexford posters are in denial of the puke hurling davy has them playing. Daly also brought it to Dublin when he was in charge so the clare boys have a lot to answer for"]Since you stopped playing 15 on 15 a few years back you are finally a competitive winning outfit. Would you rather your team played like some great teams you had in the 90s and 00s that won nothing and were everyones favourite second team because of it?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11799 - 01/06/2019 11:59:00    2189594

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To brisbane:  "[quote=Viking66:  "[quote=StoreysTash:  "So another thread descends into a boring tit-for-tat over nothing.

Maybe if the admins did their job, we might get back to discussing hurling at some stage this summer?"
Not much more to discuss on this match lad. Or on the puke guy from out West. Ive noticed though that supporters of the big 3 winners of Liam are few and far between on the Forums. I guess all of us from so called lesser counties must have more to say because we ve all been bridesmaids for too long......."
Wexford posters are in denial of the puke hurling davy has them playing. Daly also brought it to Dublin when he was in charge so the clare boys have a lot to answer for"]Since you stopped playing 15 on 15 a few years back you are finally a competitive winning outfit. Would you rather your team played like some great teams you had in the 90s and 00s that won nothing and were everyones favourite second team because of it?"]Good point its a results business

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 01/06/2019 14:25:41    2189615

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "For years the old system was the reason Galway got to so many finals, loads of the finals they got there without facing any of the serious teams. Most of the finals they got to back then was not on merit but due to a system system which gave them an easy path to the final (1 in 3 years they got to a final without playing a serious team in Munster or Leinster). It is for this reason quoting their 'bad' record in finals under the old system as if they performed badly in those finals is ridiculous, they performed as expected in most of those finals. Up until the 1980's Galway were just not a very strong hurling team. It was almost a bit like when the GAA used some years used to play an 'away' League final in New York."
TBF Galway always played either the Munster or Leinster Champs before getting to the final, before the new system cam in the late 90's. Not sure where you got the 1 in 3 idea?

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 01/06/2019 15:25:27    2189621

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