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Replying To brisbane:  "Yes i agree Galway is being dragged down to wexfords standard of puke hurling playing with sweepers and the hand passing possession game."
Its not puke hurling or Wexford in particulars style. Its the modern style of successful hurling. Dropping a man back won you your 1st All Ireland in years. Same with Clare in 2013. Last year Limerick similarly dropped men back and won. None of those 3 teams played 15 on 15 in a 1-3-3-2-3-3 traditional formation. Cork probably were the founding fathers of a short passing style in the late 90s and were very successful with it also. And Kilkennys great teams this millenium involved massive effort from the half forwards and midfielders who played all over the pitch. Your old entertaining style contributed to your poor record in finals.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11847 - 30/05/2019 16:05:48    2189154

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Probably shouldn't be bothered responding to you cos your post shows how little you know about the factors contributing to our poor All Ireland record. It is a self evident fact that the old system of direct entry to All Ireland semi finals is the major reason why we have such an appalling All Ireland final record. It also didnt give us a way of measuring the real quality of our underage teams because even though they had been relatively successful, winning 2 games to win an All Ireland didnt really tell us how good or not good they were. Since 2008 we are on a more level playing field and our modern senior record should only be judged from that year on. At the moment it stands at 1 win from 4 which indeed is bad, but over the course of the next 30 or 40 years it should balance out"
Kerry have had little or no opposition in Munster in football and yet they have 36 All Irelands- more excuses. Your position in Connacht has not stopped you winning under 21s, minor, club championships or National Leagues, why should it be such a big factor in stopping you. winning Senior Championships.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 30/05/2019 16:08:09    2189155

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Kerry have had little or no opposition in Munster in football and yet they have 36 All Irelands- more excuses. Your position in Connacht has not stopped you winning under 21s, minor, club championships or National Leagues, why should it be such a big factor in stopping you. winning Senior Championships."
How about you concern yourself with Limerick and leave us alone.
How did ye go for 45 years without a win for instance?

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 30/05/2019 16:40:09    2189165

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Kerry have had little or no opposition in Munster in football and yet they have 36 All Irelands- more excuses. Your position in Connacht has not stopped you winning under 21s, minor, club championships or National Leagues, why should it be such a big factor in stopping you. winning Senior Championships."
Apples and oranges as you ought to know but probably dont want to see. Kerry benefitted from a provincial system in which all 6 counties play football and in which one of them, Cork, nearly always tested them along the way. In Kerry, football is king and hurling is very much the poor relation. In Galway hurling was the poor relation until the mid 70's and now has equal status with football.

This is the last time Im taking your bait because it gets tiredsome engaging with someone who doesnt have an ounce of rationality to their argument.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 30/05/2019 17:25:37    2189178

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Who from the Galway setup is blaming anyone other than ourselves?
What's your comment based on apart from one anonymous poster on a message board, who lists Galway as his county. So because he seems to think Leinster has affected our style (which is complete nonsense), Galway as a whole must stop "blaming others" even though nobody is.
Stop the seafóid talk, good man."
Probably an impostor that started the topic. Should ignore all posts from Galwegians in case they might know nothing about hurling?

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 30/05/2019 18:49:04    2189197

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To be honest I'd watch puke hurling over puke football any day.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 30/05/2019 19:03:12    2189200

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Kerry have had little or no opposition in Munster in football and yet they have 36 All Irelands- more excuses. Your position in Connacht has not stopped you winning under 21s, minor, club championships or National Leagues, why should it be such a big factor in stopping you. winning Senior Championships."
Um.... Limerick have won 5 U21 All Ireland's since the year 2000 and Galway have won 3. U21 is by far a better barometer of adult hurling than minor.... Um... where are Limericks bucket load of All Ireland's? Or do facts only come into when they suit yourself? Galway have never lost an All Ireland they should of won other than last year. Every other year we were beaten fair square by better teams. 1990 against Cork hurts though. And of course last year. A lost All Ireland that will always leave a sour taste. Give a team a 60 minute head start, hurl for 10 mins and lose by a point. Hard to believe. No Limerick man, supporter or player has ever been in a position to lecture other teams about what they should or should not achieved. Your own under achievements speak for themselves. Or maybe you'd like to discuss Offaly for a while?

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 590 - 30/05/2019 19:03:31    2189201

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Replying To Barnowl94:  "How about you concern yourself with Limerick and leave us alone.
How did ye go for 45 years without a win for instance?"
I wouldn't worry about "them" they won't even get out of Munster this year!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 30/05/2019 20:23:22    2189217

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Replying To ZUL10:  "Probably an impostor that started the topic. Should ignore all posts from Galwegians in case they might know nothing about hurling?"
I think Clare will beat Tipp Sunday!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 30/05/2019 20:24:35    2189218

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Why does every criticism of a team get responded to with childish "well what has your county won" comments on this site?

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 30/05/2019 20:56:12    2189229

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Replying To katser:  "I wouldn't worry about "them" they won't even get out of Munster this year!!"
At least we're not a "1 man team"

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 30/05/2019 21:39:11    2189237

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Um.... Limerick have won 5 U21 All Ireland's since the year 2000 and Galway have won 3. U21 is by far a better barometer of adult hurling than minor.... Um... where are Limericks bucket load of All Ireland's? Or do facts only come into when they suit yourself? Galway have never lost an All Ireland they should of won other than last year. Every other year we were beaten fair square by better teams. 1990 against Cork hurts though. And of course last year. A lost All Ireland that will always leave a sour taste. Give a team a 60 minute head start, hurl for 10 mins and lose by a point. Hard to believe. No Limerick man, supporter or player has ever been in a position to lecture other teams about what they should or should not achieved. Your own under achievements speak for themselves. Or maybe you'd like to discuss Offaly for a while?"
Well we won eight to Galways five All Irelands with about half the hurling population. I know both counties should probably won more, but there you go. 'Galway have never lost an All Ireland they should have won'. Really?? What about Offaly 81 and 85 for starters when ye were raging hot favourites on each occcasion. Your the people that should talk about Offaly indeed. And you come up with this nonsense that a county from that was playing in its fifth All Ireland Final in seven years handled the occasion so badly that they did not start hurling for sixty minutes. And they playing against a side who had not a single player who played in a final before, as indeed was the the case with Offaly in 81.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 30/05/2019 21:54:13    2189245

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Replying To Barnowl94:  "How about you concern yourself with Limerick and leave us alone.
How did ye go for 45 years without a win for instance?"
Well ye with 58 without winning, but we wont comment on that.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 30/05/2019 21:56:02    2189246

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Probably shouldn't be bothered responding to you cos your post shows how little you know about the factors contributing to our poor All Ireland record. It is a self evident fact that the old system of direct entry to All Ireland semi finals is the major reason why we have such an appalling All Ireland final record. It also didnt give us a way of measuring the real quality of our underage teams because even though they had been relatively successful, winning 2 games to win an All Ireland didnt really tell us how good or not good they were. Since 2008 we are on a more level playing field and our modern senior record should only be judged from that year on. At the moment it stands at 1 win from 4 which indeed is bad, but over the course of the next 30 or 40 years it should balance out"
Don't forget you had eleven years in Munster and was just beginning to improve when ye left and its possible the foundations for 1972 U21 was probably set in Minor teams playing in the Munster Championship. So you had twenty years without getting straight into All Ireland Semi Finals.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 30/05/2019 22:03:48    2189248

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Replying To brisbane:  "Yes i agree Galway is being dragged down to wexfords standard of puke hurling playing with sweepers and the hand passing possession game."
Galway weren't good enough to beat Wexford, get over it.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 138 - 30/05/2019 22:08:29    2189252

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Replying To ZUL10:  "Probably an impostor that started the topic. Should ignore all posts from Galwegians in case they might know nothing about hurling?"
Or just reply to him as an individual like any normal person would, rather than implying that he's speaking for the whole county and the team.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2040 - 30/05/2019 22:18:30    2189254

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well we won eight to Galways five All Irelands with about half the hurling population. I know both counties should probably won more, but there you go. 'Galway have never lost an All Ireland they should have won'. Really?? What about Offaly 81 and 85 for starters when ye were raging hot favourites on each occcasion. Your the people that should talk about Offaly indeed. And you come up with this nonsense that a county from that was playing in its fifth All Ireland Final in seven years handled the occasion so badly that they did not start hurling for sixty minutes. And they playing against a side who had not a single player who played in a final before, as indeed was the the case with Offaly in 81."
Can you give me the stats where ye have "half our hurling population". I've no idea about 81 or 85 as I wasn't on this planet to witness one and was drooling over myself for the other. I didn't say we handled anything poorly in the All Ireland Final. We played badly. It happens. Plenty of favourites lose games they should win. That's sport. If the best team never lost no one would play the game as you'd know the winners before you start. In 2017,18 and now the start of 19 Galway have lost one championship game. Any other team out there including Limerick have that record? For all the puke hurling and winning games we seem to throw away teams seem to be struggling to put us away. All Ireland Champions beaten easily in their first game. Sounds about what Limerick are. Bang average.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 590 - 30/05/2019 22:37:25    2189260

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Or just reply to him as an individual like any normal person would, rather than implying that he's speaking for the whole county and the team."
The term 'puke hurling' is generalisation that serves no respect to the individuals who play it. This individual deserves a similar reply.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 30/05/2019 22:50:54    2189267

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Replying To Bon:  "To be honest I'd watch puke hurling over puke football any day."
Sounds like a puke weekend

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 30/05/2019 23:49:16    2189275

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Replying To Viking66:  "Its not puke hurling or Wexford in particulars style. Its the modern style of successful hurling. Dropping a man back won you your 1st All Ireland in years. Same with Clare in 2013. Last year Limerick similarly dropped men back and won. None of those 3 teams played 15 on 15 in a 1-3-3-2-3-3 traditional formation. Cork probably were the founding fathers of a short passing style in the late 90s and were very successful with it also. And Kilkennys great teams this millenium involved massive effort from the half forwards and midfielders who played all over the pitch. Your old entertaining style contributed to your poor record in finals."
Its funny how people complain about football and say hurling is better to watch yet hurling is copying football????

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 30/05/2019 23:51:12    2189276

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