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Davy Hard Done By?

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So they didn't want the report published because of how bad it would make them look - my point exactly.

Whats the story with this 'leaked video' that could have exonerated them?

5 Months was handed out due to the severity and nature of the offence i presume. Which considering that Diarmuid Connolly only got 3 Months for 'Physical' Interference it must have been fairly bad/threateneing/personal.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 30/05/2019 11:09:08    2189044

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Replying To supersub15:  "Would be interesting to hear the official's view of the incident - Davy sure looked animated and we know he's fond of the 4 letter words!
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3324 - 27/05/2019 17:10:38 2188238

Yes hard done by again. The passion he has is unreal but some officials think they are been verbally used when they are not. Davy makes his point and very rarely he is wrong.
His not letting Wexford down would they be where they are today without him at the helm? Certainly not.
His made a quite ordinary team beat every top team at some stage in league or championship since he took over.
I'm sorry to say this but the only people who let down Wexford yesterday were the players that Galway team was there for the taking and if Wexford hurled with a bit more conviction and made key decisions like at end going for goal when a point was easier they would have won.
"Pity it takes Davy's actions to wake them up any other manager would have stood there and took it but not Davy".
His a fighter his a legend. Go Davy.
WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1579 - 27/05/2019 20:58:33 2188309

I was happy for Davy that he didn't get the 5 months suspension that Turlough O'Brien got, I thought that even though he was handed down a 4 month suspension not too long ago which he successfully appealed and got it reduced to 4 week's, he has a few other penalty points on his cv so I thought they would use it against him and hand down a suitable suspension. I am more surprised than disappointed with the amount of pleasantries that are spoken of in his favour, almost condoning his passion shall we call it, albeit hypocritical.
Turlough O'Briens passion for the game got him into serious trouble, apparently Davy's passion for the game got him out of trouble,
The big difference is Turlough O'Briens incident happened off the pitch after the game finished, where as Davy's incident happened on the pitch during the course of play, there by, bringing the game into disrepute. - Official..
Quote,- "Passion is not, and cannot be accepted as an excuse""
In fairness looking at the incident I said he would get 48 weeks for sure for he chested the lines man in an agitated manner. I know he saw what happened to his player and for sure it upset him. Davy needs to get counseling to be honest to control this terrible streak in his make up. I suppose you call it anger control management in fact at least 90% need to get this counseling from grass roots right up to inter county for remember children watch their idles and what's the old saying monkey see monkey do. He could not complain if he got 48 weeks and I bet he knows it too.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 01/06/2019 18:47:05    2189657

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Cop out wild. Bad officials or officials making mistakes is corrected just like players making mistakes is.
refs get all the slack when they may make a mistake but no praise or very little praise when games go very well and all things work out.
Davy does abuse refs. Cody and Davy may not be wrong much related to hurling issues but that still doesnt excuse eithers actions towards officials"
Define abuse?? Just cos he roars a few obscene words here and there at an official?
I'm sorry man but that doesnt cut if for me.
A lot of people don't like Davy cos they are from Limerick or other neighbouring counties and lot of it is just pure ignorance from people in general looking to have a go at him everytime he opens his mouth.
I'd have Davy in my corner any day of the week and I know many lads a lot of them from Tipp who hurled with LIT say their careers were going no where and Davy Fitz was the guy who got them to an inter county standard.
He will always back his players no matter what and if he made a mistake which cost his team his normally very quick to admit it.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 03/06/2019 00:33:43    2190045

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The message Davy sends is that it is to run out and abuse officals, once you can hide behind the cloak of 'passion'.

People complaining about the fact there are not enough good refs etc yet these very people feel it is ok to abuce any official once it advances their cause.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 03/06/2019 10:13:20    2190092

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Does questioning a decision equal abuse?

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 03/06/2019 12:21:45    2190139

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i nearly feel was he Hard done by Clare now.....they have won nothing since he left and them boys in charge dont have 1 percent the passion he had which counted for a lot.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 736 - 03/06/2019 12:34:36    2190145

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Replying To valley84:  "Does questioning a decision equal abuse?"
No, but the manner yes

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 03/06/2019 14:27:38    2190182

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Replying To witnof:  "No, but the manner yes"
If the same linesman hadnt missed two very bad fouls on the same young player Im sure Davy wouldnt have had anything to say to him.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11848 - 03/06/2019 20:47:48    2190317

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Replying To Viking66:  "If the same linesman hadnt missed two very bad fouls on the same young player Im sure Davy wouldnt have had anything to say to him."
Sound logic there, 2 fouls on same player( Especially the younger ones) means behave badly towards match officials?
All officials make some mistakes, human error, but not all coaches/managers react that way. He must show more respect or suffer consequences of his actions because he made the choice to act that way.

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 03/06/2019 22:05:10    2190341

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Do the crime, then do the time.
If your big enough to verbally or whatever, to an official or player, you should be big enough to deal with consequences.
Get on with the match.

David (Meath) - Posts: 567 - 03/06/2019 22:12:36    2190345

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Replying To conordee:  "Sound logic there, 2 fouls on same player( Especially the younger ones) means behave badly towards match officials?
All officials make some mistakes, human error, but not all coaches/managers react that way. He must show more respect or suffer consequences of his actions because he made the choice to act that way."
He didnt swear at the official or push him or physically interfere with him. He gave out to him. As every other manager does. Abd they dont generally get sent to the stand for it. Y should it be 1 rule for Fitzgerald and 1 for everyone else?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11848 - 04/06/2019 06:57:15    2190372

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Replying To Viking66:  "If the same linesman hadnt missed two very bad fouls on the same young player Im sure Davy wouldnt have had anything to say to him."
He balls out his player's publically for making 2 'alleged' mistakes?

And he went after the 4th Offical not the linesman.

The message is to everyone that it's ok to do this?

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 04/06/2019 08:51:30    2190383

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Davy set a very bad example to all the young kids at the match. Look there is and always has been sledging and handlers which gets another player to react. That player if caught rightly gets red card.

If we allow the Davy s of this world to charge on to a pitch because they see something that annoys them , soon enough fans will be running on to the pitch. This is not the first time Davy has changed on to a pitch during a match. He must be given a very very long ban from the side line . Davy should also apologise to kids and tell them it is wrong to charge on to a pitch if your not happy with a decision

heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 04/06/2019 09:23:08    2190391

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Replying To conordee:  "Sound logic there, 2 fouls on same player( Especially the younger ones) means behave badly towards match officials?
All officials make some mistakes, human error, but not all coaches/managers react that way. He must show more respect or suffer consequences of his actions because he made the choice to act that way."
What about your U21 manager going after the referee at full time in the Leinster final last year? That was far worse than anything Davy did. Nothing happened him, was that right?
Not condoning either of them.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 04/06/2019 09:32:46    2190396

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "What about your U21 manager going after the referee at full time in the Leinster final last year? That was far worse than anything Davy did. Nothing happened him, was that right?
Not condoning either of them."
What about our u21 manager? He was way out of line also. Why would you even think from reading my post that this is about a county. Its about team officials abusing match officials, I dont care what county they are from . Its not acceptable.
There is still far too much of this going on in every county from u10 games up and from attending many different sports it is far more common on the GAA field.

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 04/06/2019 22:05:42    2190679

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Replying To Ej:  "I have just watched the incident for the third, fourth and fifth time just in case my eyes were deceiving me in my senior years (yet again).
Nope.....Davy did not even put one little piggy wiggy over the line.
The referee, had made up his mind to send him to the stands and signalled as such without even consulting the linesman.
Watch a recording of the incident and tell me what you saw"
EJ. Looked at the Davy incident again last night. I thought the same as yourself until I looked at it very closely. If you look behind Davy as he's going mad at the linesman, you will see the line about 2 yards behind him. Therefore he was in fact on the pitch. Anyway there's no suspension to be handed out. I wonder is the reason no action was taken is because on examination of the lead up to the incident on the sideline it was discovered that Davy was right about Reck getting cloths lined and Galway get a free!! Its fairly obvious to me that they didnt punish him so as to save the blushes of the referee and linesman who either ignored or didnt see the foul. Unusual isnt it for no action taken for a manager entering the field of play and shouting and screaming at an official. Food for thought I would say.

Blockandhook (Wexford) - Posts: 668 - 05/06/2019 11:28:47    2190791

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Replying To Viking66:  "If the same linesman hadnt missed two very bad fouls on the same young player Im sure Davy wouldnt have had anything to say to him."
It wasn't the linesman it was the 4th official
who has no power to intervene anyway.
Davy knew what he was doing, it's an ancient trick to try to lift your team and he has done it before.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 05/06/2019 14:43:56    2190892

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Replying To Blockandhook:  "EJ. Looked at the Davy incident again last night. I thought the same as yourself until I looked at it very closely. If you look behind Davy as he's going mad at the linesman, you will see the line about 2 yards behind him. Therefore he was in fact on the pitch. Anyway there's no suspension to be handed out. I wonder is the reason no action was taken is because on examination of the lead up to the incident on the sideline it was discovered that Davy was right about Reck getting cloths lined and Galway get a free!! Its fairly obvious to me that they didnt punish him so as to save the blushes of the referee and linesman who either ignored or didnt see the foul. Unusual isnt it for no action taken for a manager entering the field of play and shouting and screaming at an official. Food for thought I would say."
I was in the stand with a good view of it and Davy was on the pitch no doubt about it.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 05/06/2019 14:45:57    2190893

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Replying To conordee:  "What about our u21 manager? He was way out of line also. Why would you even think from reading my post that this is about a county. Its about team officials abusing match officials, I dont care what county they are from . Its not acceptable.
There is still far too much of this going on in every county from u10 games up and from attending many different sports it is far more common on the GAA field."
Agree with every word so. People complain about referees, they won't get better or we won't get better ones if people think the solution is more abuse for them.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 08/06/2019 13:07:33    2191677

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Agree with every word so. People complain about referees, they won't get better or we won't get better ones if people think the solution is more abuse for them."
Davy is a serial offended at this stage and why they don't hand him a good hefty suspension is beyond me. Anyone who had read his original autobiography will realise that he has an immense ego and that whatever happens has to be always about him or because of him.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 08/06/2019 13:55:08    2191688

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