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Replying To Wally:  "Donegal. They are a less successful county than Tyrone."
You have 3 All Ireland's and we have 2. Hardly much difference now in fairness. Humility never much of a trait in Tyrone, least liked in Ireland and they wonder why!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 04/06/2019 20:31:19    2190643

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "You have 3 All Ireland's and we have 2. Hardly much difference now in fairness. Humility never much of a trait in Tyrone, least liked in Ireland and they wonder why!"
Who gives a toss. May the best team win!

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 04/06/2019 20:52:59    2190651

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "You have 3 All Ireland's and we have 2. Hardly much difference now in fairness. Humility never much of a trait in Tyrone, least liked in Ireland and they wonder why!"
It's not just measured in All Irelands. We have a lot more Ulster titles, McKenna Cups, National Leagues and an awful lot more under age success.

Your last comment was not very graceful at all.

If you look back through this thread it was you who started the debate on the success of each county and the comparison between the two. I was merely pointing out the facts.

You really need to grow up and learn how to take part in a mature debate without reverting to insults and slander.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 04/06/2019 21:09:10    2190661

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "You have 3 All Ireland's and we have 2. Hardly much difference now in fairness. Humility never much of a trait in Tyrone, least liked in Ireland and they wonder why!"
In terms of this decade Donegal would comfortably be the more successful team. More Ulster titles and the 2012 All-Ireland.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 04/06/2019 21:16:06    2190666

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "You have 3 All Ireland's and we have 2. Hardly much difference now in fairness. Humility never much of a trait in Tyrone, least liked in Ireland and they wonder why!"
More then the dubs?? Now come on

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 04/06/2019 21:27:54    2190669

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Replying To Wally:  "It's not just measured in All Irelands. We have a lot more Ulster titles, McKenna Cups, National Leagues and an awful lot more under age success.

Your last comment was not very graceful at all.

If you look back through this thread it was you who started the debate on the success of each county and the comparison between the two. I was merely pointing out the facts.

You really need to grow up and learn how to take part in a mature debate without reverting to insults and slander."
Actually you started the commentary about Donegal's lack of success versus your own county in an attempt to diverge from another poster pointing out that we get on that bit better against Dublin.

It's hardly insulting to say you lack humility when all someone has to do is read through your posts..

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 04/06/2019 21:37:16    2190671

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Replying To greatpoint:  "In terms of this decade Donegal would comfortably be the more successful team. More Ulster titles and the 2012 All-Ireland."
Well this is just getting ridiculous. Clearly you can use any set of parameters to suit your narrative.

I'm board now.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 04/06/2019 22:09:56    2190680

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Replying To Wally:  "Well this is just getting ridiculous. Clearly you can use any set of parameters to suit your narrative.

I'm board now."
'Bored'. Not board.

Or even who won Sam Maguire first would be another parameter?

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 04/06/2019 22:23:44    2190688

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Replying To lilypad:  "More then the dubs?? Now come on"
Yes more than the Dubs. I've never had much of a problem with the Dubs but there is a nasty element to some of the Tyrone support which you seldom see elsewhere. This is the same support which spat on Karl Lacey from the stands during a McKenna Cup Game in 2013. One supporter yes but symptomatic of the toxicity among elements of their support on an all too regular basis.

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 04/06/2019 22:25:23    2190690

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Replying To Lifford Gael:  "Yes more than the Dubs. I've never had much of a problem with the Dubs but there is a nasty element to some of the Tyrone support which you seldom see elsewhere. This is the same support which spat on Karl Lacey from the stands during a McKenna Cup Game in 2013. One supporter yes but symptomatic of the toxicity among elements of their support on an all too regular basis."
Couldn't have phrased it better. Hit the nail on the head. Plenty of lovely people from Tyrone but they do have an over-abundance of toxicity as you put it. That's a very PC way of saying things we otherwise can't here!

Having attended many Donegal Tyrone games, I've never otherwise witnessed the kind of spite and nastiness that I've witnessed when we play Tyrone. The example in 2013, not just the Karl Lacey spitting incident but the way they jeered Michael Murphy off the pitch when he was sent off, what seemed like every man, woman and child was at it, showed me that they begrudged us doing well, big time. This came as a shock really as I remember Donegal people all cheering for Tyrone in the 00's. But Donegal people now would have a very different opinion if they were in an All-Ireland. So it's strange but there you go.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 05/06/2019 00:42:09    2190724

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Give over lads :)

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 05/06/2019 03:11:03    2190726

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Replying To Lifford Gael:  "Yes more than the Dubs. I've never had much of a problem with the Dubs but there is a nasty element to some of the Tyrone support which you seldom see elsewhere. This is the same support which spat on Karl Lacey from the stands during a McKenna Cup Game in 2013. One supporter yes but symptomatic of the toxicity among elements of their support on an all too regular basis."
Catch yourself on Lifford.

It a good healthy rivalry. It's people like you with that attitude who make it toxic.

Absolute joke of a statement.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2019 09:04:22    2190745

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "You have 3 All Ireland's and we have 2. Hardly much difference now in fairness. Humility never much of a trait in Tyrone, least liked in Ireland and they wonder why!"
Another ridiculous statement.

Where's the evidence?

Some Donegal fans really have a bee in their bonnet.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2019 09:06:44    2190746

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Another ridiculous statement.

Where's the evidence?

Some Donegal fans really have a bee in their bonnet."
Evidence.

Would you like a sociological report or something?

Just ask fans throughout Ireland or attend matches and sit in the stands and you'll get your answer.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 05/06/2019 09:40:41    2190754

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Ho ho it's bubbling along nicely. Lovely stuff.
There's no love lost between the two teams that's for sure and at times the bile spills over.
The talking will be done on the pitch Saturday evening. As I said on the Donegal forum, us beating Tyrone this weekend could be the making of this team. It will not be easy by any means but with Patrick back in action I give us a strong chance.
Looking forward to the McGee/McShane battle!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9135 - 05/06/2019 09:43:19    2190755

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Couldn't have phrased it better. Hit the nail on the head. Plenty of lovely people from Tyrone but they do have an over-abundance of toxicity as you put it. That's a very PC way of saying things we otherwise can't here!

Having attended many Donegal Tyrone games, I've never otherwise witnessed the kind of spite and nastiness that I've witnessed when we play Tyrone. The example in 2013, not just the Karl Lacey spitting incident but the way they jeered Michael Murphy off the pitch when he was sent off, what seemed like every man, woman and child was at it, showed me that they begrudged us doing well, big time. This came as a shock really as I remember Donegal people all cheering for Tyrone in the 00's. But Donegal people now would have a very different opinion if they were in an All-Ireland. So it's strange but there you go."
When a player gets sent off you always hear the crowd jeering, in a lot sports that happens. So get off your high horse and stop your crying.

Also a lot of Tyrone people cheered for Donegal as well. Its an Ulster thing as well you know.

Never heard so much complaining in all my life.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2019 10:12:02    2190762

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Couldn't have phrased it better. Hit the nail on the head. Plenty of lovely people from Tyrone but they do have an over-abundance of toxicity as you put it. That's a very PC way of saying things we otherwise can't here!

Having attended many Donegal Tyrone games, I've never otherwise witnessed the kind of spite and nastiness that I've witnessed when we play Tyrone. The example in 2013, not just the Karl Lacey spitting incident but the way they jeered Michael Murphy off the pitch when he was sent off, what seemed like every man, woman and child was at it, showed me that they begrudged us doing well, big time. This came as a shock really as I remember Donegal people all cheering for Tyrone in the 00's. But Donegal people now would have a very different opinion if they were in an All-Ireland. So it's strange but there you go."
I would tend to agree here. Tyrone are the only Ulster team I wouldn't cheer for in the All Ireland series. And that's because of the nastiness from fans when we were beating them during the McGuinness era. They really begrudged us every win during that time and not just against them. I witnessed some wild stuff being shouted at Donegal bench from Tyrone fans when Mayo hammered us in 2013 (it was a double header).

Funnily enough the fans haven't been as bad since they started beating us again...

I would say that recent Fermanagh, Monaghan or Armagh games were healthy rivalries. But Tyrone games always have a nasty edge to them, especially when they lose.

Nothing to do with 'bees in a bonnet.' And I'm not speaking for Donegal people in general. It's my own personal opinion from personal experience.

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 244 - 05/06/2019 10:14:09    2190763

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Evidence.

Would you like a sociological report or something?

Just ask fans throughout Ireland or attend matches and sit in the stands and you'll get your answer."
Many of them would have a different opinion.

In a debate you need some kind of evidence to back up your statements. Clearly you don't have any.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 05/06/2019 10:14:38    2190765

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Many of them would have a different opinion.

In a debate you need some kind of evidence to back up your statements. Clearly you don't have any."
I've given you two bits of 'evidence' to back up what I'm saying. Now unless you have forensics or something of that nature then I'm not sure what 'evidence' you have to contradict what I'm saying? If indeed evidence is your basis for a sports division forum.

Am I the only Donegal person saying this? Go through this thread and there's enough evidence there and many other threads on this website through the years of the experiences of fans around Ireland and Tyrone games. It's not nice to admit hence the defensiveness, I know. And you might be the nicest supporter of all for all I know. But there's a basis of opinion here that has a common thread to it.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 05/06/2019 11:53:53    2190806

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "I've given you two bits of 'evidence' to back up what I'm saying. Now unless you have forensics or something of that nature then I'm not sure what 'evidence' you have to contradict what I'm saying? If indeed evidence is your basis for a sports division forum.

Am I the only Donegal person saying this? Go through this thread and there's enough evidence there and many other threads on this website through the years of the experiences of fans around Ireland and Tyrone games. It's not nice to admit hence the defensiveness, I know. And you might be the nicest supporter of all for all I know. But there's a basis of opinion here that has a common thread to it."
Sports Discussion*

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 05/06/2019 12:00:04    2190810

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