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TBF I thought Wexford brought more to the game than Galway. They played more hurling despite the awful wides in the first half and should have won. Galway dont seem to have any game plan and have no clue how to work the ball into their forwards for goals or close in points. They are totally reliant on fielding from the puckouts and driving it over the bar from impossible distances. They have too many similar players and could do with a few smaller nippy forwards imo.
ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 28/05/2019 21:49:39 2188652 Link 1 |
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Wides and inconsistency were Clare's 2 biggest problems last year, Clare have other faults too and i would be the 1st to acknowledge that. Conor Cleary followed Joe Canning last year and Colm Galvin dropped back and filled the gap, it wasnt a drilled system. 2nd game Clare started with a sweeper and it was very poor management in my opinion because its far too easy to play against. When Clare went man for man, they started scoring and could of won. What part of my previous post is inaccurate?. I dont have any problem with Wexford or Leinster just awful outdated tactics that are horrible to watch. Dont take it so personal. Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 28/05/2019 23:03:44 2188679 Link 0 |
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Apologies if I came across in that manner I was just pointing out that any team can have an off day shooting wise, it even happened kilkenny on the odd occasion at there peak under cody. On the clare wexford game in PUC last year i'd disagree with you slightly, simply we were dead on our feet after 4 weeks in a row in leinster and going hard for the league to ensure we didn't go straight back down after 7 years in 1B. Our defeat had nothing to do with systems you simply just outhurled us but I'm confident we're timing our charge better this year. Clare not far away at all hardest part for ye is getting out of Munster with tipp flying and limerick and cork hard to beat too, if ye get out of Munster nobody would fancy playing ye in a knockout game, apologies again.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 29/05/2019 01:10:14 2188699 Link 0 |
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That sums it up perfectly. I genuinely feel once Wexford got to grips with the conditions, which took 20+ minutes which is too long, I thought Wexford were the better team for the rest of the match. Now in fairness to Galway they were without their talisman for over a decade, and to be fair take Shefflin out of Kilkenny, Eoin Kelly out of Tipp, Tony Kelly out of Clare etc and some of these teams look fairly average because the other players have an attitude "sure he'll dig us out of it, just get the ball to him". There is no doubt Wexford need to improve, need a 90% free taker a la Horgan, etc, but we still have the nucleus of a decent team. The acid test for this team will come in Wexford Park v Kilkenny. Hope it'll be a nice, calm, day weather wise :) :) :) It might not be so calm in the stands! StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1729 - 29/05/2019 08:39:32 2188716 Link 0 |
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I actually enjoyed the battle myself, much more so than I did Cork and Tipperary where despite witnessing some incredible skills from Bubbles, Horgan and the like, the game bored me a bit. Every puck out lead to a shot and usually a score. It was very open. The skill level was lower in Pearse stadium, I'd imagine the Atlantic wind played havoc with the shooting to be fair but it was a great war, more like hurling of old at times. I enjoyed the Kilkenny Galway 0-18 a piece draw last year too. Some times the high scoring shootouts can completely lack intensity. tomhealycork (Cork) - Posts: 80 - 29/05/2019 09:30:14 2188731 Link 1 |
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Still sore about the semi final last year are you Mr Helmet?! When did Galway last get eaten alive by a munster team? the 1 point loss to Limerick in the final? The 1 point loss to Tipp in the semi final of 2016?
Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 29/05/2019 15:38:20 2188870 Link 0 |
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Just for perspective there were 36 wides in last year's AI final. In Croke Park. Not a drop of wind on the day. Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2206 - 29/05/2019 16:03:00 2188882 Link 3 |
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Agree with most of that. As regards skill levels though alot of that perception is down to coverage. For example Sideline cuts for points get raved over in the Munster championship. When they are scored in Leinster games they dont even make the highlights package. Nothing was made of Conor Mcdonalds point either where he jabbed the ball up into his hand under pressure from 2 defenders and put it over the bar. Alot of the Munster games this season have been spoiled by a large difference in intensity levels the 2 teams involved were playing at. Except the waterford v clare game that both teams seemed to think was a challenge game. In all the others 1 team brought ferocious intensity and the other just didnt. At least Kilkenny v Dublin, Dublin v Wexford and Galway v Wexford were high intensity games that both teams seem to want to win equally much. TBH I dont believe any team in the top 9 would be eaten alive by any other if both teams playing eachother play equally hard. Last year all the games between Wexford Dublin and Kilkenny were the same excitement. Galway were just that little bit bigger and better. This year the 4 counties seem very even.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11683 - 29/05/2019 16:12:29 2188887 Link 0 |
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Matter of perspective I suppose. At H/T I knew a 6 point lead wouldnt be enough for us to win the game. Ye can point to the awful wides ye had in the first half but in truth, facing into that swirling wind, nearly all were excusable, especially for an "away" team. Playing with the wind is when a team needs to be piling on the scores and we had the wrong player taking the frees in the first half. Had Flynn been taking them, or Conor Cooney, I think we might have taken an 8 or 9 point lead into the break which would have been enough. Certainly ought to have been easier to score frees with the wind than against it, considering that at the city end goals, the wind doesnt swirl as much. Btw on another thread you said there was a big Wexford crowd at it. If there was, they were very quiet! Of the 12,600 I would have said maybe a 1000 were from Wexford. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1901 - 29/05/2019 18:30:33 2188936 Link 0 |
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Ah no worries. Maybe we'll meet again this year and then we can come back and pit our unbiased knowledge against each other again. You right about Munster, really looking 4ward to Sunday. Not gonna give a prediction, been wrong all year so far. Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 29/05/2019 20:44:21 2188962 Link 0 |
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I'm talking about the Galway and Wexford teams that took the field last Sunday. Not interested in what happened in the past. Do you think the Galway team that played last Sunday is as good as the 2017 and or 2018 team? If not, then why bring up past Galway teams? LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2471 - 29/05/2019 21:41:21 2188971 Link 0 |
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my wife and 2 children went to the match and said they only realised there was a decent wexford crowd there when they got on top. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 29/05/2019 22:21:37 2188976 Link 0 |
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You are posing a ridiculous hypothetical situation that the teams involved would get beaten by munster teams based on the performance. You cannot magically imagine how that performance would fare against anyone else, its pointless fantasy. But seeing as you are, I can only offer outcomes of recent games of Galway against Munster teams, and we have beaten everyone bar Limerick in the Championship over the last 3 seasons and only lost to Tipp and Limerick by 1 point each. With no disrespect to Wexford meant, but do you think Galway would approach a game against Tipp the same way as Wexford? There was evidently a certain amount of complacency there, which is wrong. We certainly don't have the form or the all irelands to take anyone for granted. If you think Galway meet anyone from Munster in the Quarters onwards and it will resemble anything that took place in Salthill on Sunday then you are deluded.
Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 30/05/2019 08:56:37 2189007 Link 0 |
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Miami305, I think you are giving your county men a free pass there. If they were complacent on Sunday, with 2 away matches coming up against Kilkenny and Dublin, then there should be serious questions asked. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1729 - 30/05/2019 11:01:29 2189040 Link 0 |
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If Dublin beat Carlow ( not unlikely), Wexford beat Carlow (again very possible), and Galway lose to Kilkenny in Nowlan Park (again not completely unthinkable), Galway will have to win in Parnell Park just to see an AI Quarter Final . And thats far from a certainty too. The Galway players and management will have been well aware of this. So to say they took it less seriously than if they were playing Tipp is not only running down Wexford but also the Galway players and management.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11683 - 30/05/2019 13:47:05 2189102 Link 0 |
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BTW the rest of your point is very valid. Galway have a great championship record against Munster counties. And even "little" Wexford in the 2 years pre Davy beat Clare, Waterford and Cork in Championship matches.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11683 - 30/05/2019 13:50:35 2189104 Link 0 |