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The Sunday Game - Awful Coverage

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I can tolerate RTE but would love to see a 30 second timer/buzzer for Brolly to answer a question. The football should be on first as it looks clumsy after the hurling.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 15/05/2019 10:41:17    2184252

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Replying To PyatPree:  "Probably don't pay the same money to LOI comparing to the G.A.A"
Its part of their agreement to show Ireland International Games that they must show X amount of LOI games and have a highlights show

DundalkGael (Louth) - Posts: 892 - 15/05/2019 10:51:09    2184254

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "RTE show 18 Airtricity league matches this year plus a round up show on Monday nights. Average attendance at LOI about 1900 per match in 2018.
Full coverage of AIL final last week. 1600 in the Aviva to see Con beat 'Tarf. Hmmm"
I'm not 100% on this, but I believe the LOI matches are sold in the same rights package with Irish international games. So if you want the rights to show Ireland soccer matches, you have to show Airtricity league aswell.

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 15/05/2019 10:59:00    2184256

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Replying To Ban:  "Correct me if I'm wrong but all TV programs are judged by viewership by their boss. This drives more revenue through advertising and its also seen as satisfying the paying customer."
The paying customer who legally has to buy a TV licence, the majority of which goes to RTE, and who pays taxes which are used to prop up RTE. They should be held back from them and then see how they survive on advertising revenue like other broadcasters.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 15/05/2019 11:45:44    2184265

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "The paying customer who legally has to buy a TV licence, the majority of which goes to RTE, and who pays taxes which are used to prop up RTE. They should be held back from them and then see how they survive on advertising revenue like other broadcasters."
So viewership is important for the producer of the Sunday Game?

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 15/05/2019 12:32:36    2184279

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The Munster Championship is shown for a few reasons.
It's the best fare on offer firstly. It attracts the biggest viewership because of the size of the counties involved also.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 15/05/2019 13:31:24    2184291

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "The paying customer who legally has to buy a TV licence, the majority of which goes to RTE, and who pays taxes which are used to prop up RTE. They should be held back from them and then see how they survive on advertising revenue like other broadcasters."
going off the point abit here but worth knowing all the same...technically speaking you don't have to "buy" a tv license....it worded like that to make us think we have, that is why you have to "authorize" an post to debit your account when paying (that's the way it is online anyway, I am sure the manual form is the same text) that is you "consenting" that you "agree" to buy the license. If it was a really legal requirement it wouldn't matter one iota if you consented/agree to buy/pay for the license...this is the powers that be way around it..this has been thrashed several times on radio shows over the years upto a few years ago when for obvious reasons the powers that be don't discuss it any more...and yes you will have to buy your license as no judge will look on you too favorably for using this defence (part of the establishment etc), because if you could afford to fight it, you would win it, but NOT in this country, where as per above no judge is going to go against establishment, you would have to go to Europe and hope no retired Irish politician/retired judge will be sitting on the legal staff of the European courts to hear your case, unfortunately the chances of winning are well closed off, but this is a fact with many "services" we are "legally" required to pay etc..for the record, Sunday game is poor programme, highlights coverage is over if blink...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 15/05/2019 13:33:33    2184293

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Replying To Ban:  "So viewership is important for the producer of the Sunday Game?"
It should be. But they have a comfort zone knowing that they have TV licence money and government money that'll prop them up so they're less concerned about viewership than broadcasters who only survive on advertising revenue or trying to get market share in the broadband market.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 15/05/2019 13:44:23    2184298

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "RTE show 18 Airtricity league matches this year plus a round up show on Monday nights. Average attendance at LOI about 1900 per match in 2018.
Full coverage of AIL final last week. 1600 in the Aviva to see Con beat 'Tarf. Hmmm"
Apples and Oranges.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7891 - 15/05/2019 13:50:39    2184300

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Replying To carlovia:  "My criticism of it was that they spend the majority of the time
showing the same matches they had showed live that afternoon.

Plus im bitter that Carlow are the only senior hurling team that don't
have one live match.

The 5 minute bit at the start showing the RTE "celebrities" talking about the
last 40 years was a waste of time as well.

Why not have 5 minutes of the sporting highlights from
the last 40 years instead."
That god awful jersey should never be shown on live TV :-0


Of the 10 teams in the top tier of hurling Carlow getting no live coverage is horrendous considering most weekends 3 of the four games played will either be live on RTE or Sky.

Now that may be RTE's and Sky's perogative but surely the GAA have to step in a start calling the shot s or allow TG4 to cover them and the other tiers at least later in the week.


Football,
Put a knife in it. Slows down a good hurler.

I'm off to put on my tinfoil helmet specially designed by Ronan Curran for internet hurlers...

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 15/05/2019 14:03:04    2184308

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "It should be. But they have a comfort zone knowing that they have TV licence money and government money that'll prop them up so they're less concerned about viewership than broadcasters who only survive on advertising revenue or trying to get market share in the broadband market."
Does anyone exactly know though? Its important to know as it drives the content of the show I'm sure!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 15/05/2019 14:15:15    2184310

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The Sunday game has lost direction, it's almost dead in the water, it needs to be abandoned and reinvented sooner rather than later, presently it's no more than a job for the boy's and indeed for the girls let me add. The Sunday game is more about egos and optics that programme content.

Let me say first and foremost, RTE / GAA literally belittled the Carlow hurlers last Sunday with their lack of coverage on the Galway / Carlow game, smiles and snobbery is at the very heart of RTE and the Sunday game, this it's not for me.

I wish the remaining participating counties the very best of good luck.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 15/05/2019 15:29:46    2184333

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I find it impossible to watch, I can't stand Cantwell, it has nothing to say anymore. I cannot understand why they start with highlights of a match they just showed live earlier in the day - absolutely pointless. Nay, I watch it with the sound off.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 16/05/2019 23:40:17    2184766

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Replying To supersub15:  "The Sunday game has lost direction, it's almost dead in the water, it needs to be abandoned and reinvented sooner rather than later, presently it's no more than a job for the boy's and indeed for the girls let me add. The Sunday game is more about egos and optics that programme content.

Let me say first and foremost, RTE / GAA literally belittled the Carlow hurlers last Sunday with their lack of coverage on the Galway / Carlow game, smiles and snobbery is at the very heart of RTE and the Sunday game, this it's not for me.

I wish the remaining participating counties the very best of good luck."
I disagree every time I see posts like this. We get hurling on our TVs almost all year around and the coverage is like other sports. They show what the majority want to watch. The attendances at last weeks games showed that RTÉ showed the games and gave the most coverage to the games that the public have the greatest level of interest in. Viewing figures will drive all sporting coverage all over the world. New premier league soccer teams won't get the same coverage as the bigger teams.
That's not Munster snobbery that's just how it is across the world and rte are no different. It's an amateur game with amateur pundits so what we get is quite remarkable in my opinion.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 17/05/2019 05:28:09    2184787

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I'd be pretty sure the pundits get paid!

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 17/05/2019 12:23:36    2184885

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I disagree every time I see posts like this. We get hurling on our TVs almost all year around and the coverage is like other sports. They show what the majority want to watch. The attendances at last weeks games showed that RTÉ showed the games and gave the most coverage to the games that the public have the greatest level of interest in. Viewing figures will drive all sporting coverage all over the world. New premier league soccer teams won't get the same coverage as the bigger teams.
That's not Munster snobbery that's just how it is across the world and rte are no different. It's an amateur game with amateur pundits so what we get is quite remarkable in my opinion."
You maybe too reasonable for this tread?

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 17/05/2019 13:16:21    2184909

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As I've stated before there were far more high profile hurling matches on last weekend that football matches. Who'd want to sit through meath v Offaly or kildare v wicklow?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 17/05/2019 13:22:45    2184912

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As I've stated before there were far more high profile hurling matches on last weekend that football matches. Who'd want to sit through meath v Offaly or kildare v wicklow?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 17/05/2019 13:23:05    2184913

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Ok here goes and sorry in advance for the length of this post:

I detest rte's coverage of our Gaelic games. I try to get to a championship game every weekend and always record the televised games so that I can fast forward past the waffle.
Whilst I personally don't like their match coverage choices, they will always choose the games that generate the best viewing figures. In hurling that is the Munster championship. The Leinster hurling championship was a dead duck for 15 years. (With Galway's participation, the financial investment in Dublin hurling and my own county's resurgence that is no longer the case and over time things may change).
In football, Dublin's population guarantees the best viewing figures so they will always get a disproportionate amount of live coverage. Second to that is the Ulster championship which is the most competitive.
It is not rte's job to promote Gaelic games.
If Mr Horan and the rest of the suits are serious about being unhapppy with the lack of diversity in match coverage they should do what the FA do with Sky and insert a clause(s) into the contract.
If they had, then the Carlow v Kilkenny game for example would have been a perfect opportunity to promote the game outside of the top tier counties.
Anyways good luck to all counties this weekend.

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 17/05/2019 13:36:33    2184919

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I find it impossible to watch, I can't stand Cantwell, it has nothing to say anymore. I cannot understand why they start with highlights of a match they just showed live earlier in the day - absolutely pointless. Nay, I watch it with the sound off
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 3917 - 16/05/2019 23:40:17Loads and loads of highlight programmes start with the coverage of the game the channel showed live earlier. Not pointless at all except for the armchair fans who only watch from tv. Many people who were at other games live during the day then get to see that game first and then whatever coverage of remaining games...

RTE show 18 Airtricity league matches this year plus a round up show on Monday nights. Average attendance at LOI about 1900 per match in 2018.
Full coverage of AIL final last week. 1600 in the Aviva to see Con beat 'Tarf. Hmmm
Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 631 - 15/05/2019 09:45:43Both are linked with contracts for international games and attendance isnt be all and end all for covering a game

Rather than the ususal us v them shyte, both codes should be united in voicing the need for RTE to up their game. Start treating both as national sports, offer some proper magazine-style pre and post material about the games, and do a decent job covering a range of games from different divisions over 2 nights a week. There are only so many Fr Ted re-runs we can watch in the summer.
Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 631 - 14/05/2019 10:36:32 you talk about rubbish analysis but what exactly is proper magazine style material pre and post games especially of quality that you would deem good enough?
RTE wont do anything like that 2 nights a week as the costs wouldnt make it worthwhile.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 19/05/2019 10:06:13    2185422

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