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Yeah he was very poor, I can't understand why the GAA can't find/ develop better hurling referees. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2346 - 12/05/2019 13:45:41 i can understand why.who in their right mind would go out and listen to the abuse that referees up and down the country listen to week in week out? we will only get better referees when they are respected like rugby referees perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 12/05/2019 21:13:55 2183403 Link
Replying To Barnowl94: "I guarantee you that Kilkenny won't win in Salthill. Not this year anyway as they play us in Nowlan." My mistake tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/05/2019 23:00:28 2183447 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "I was surprised that Moran didn't go for goal with the 2nd penalty. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2346 - 12/05/2019 13:45:41 2183271 I think he didn't rise it properly and decided to tap over. Haven't seen a TV replay but that's how it looked to me from the stand." That's a great shout and makes complete sense. It wasn't clear on tv. He is usually lethal from penalties so I was surprised when it went over the bar. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/05/2019 03:05:51 2183476 Link
Replying To perfect10: "Yeah he was very poor, I can't understand why the GAA can't find/ develop better hurling referees. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2346 - 12/05/2019 13:45:41 i can understand why.who in their right mind would go out and listen to the abuse that referees up and down the country listen to week in week out? we will only get better referees when they are respected like rugby referees" I'd never condone bad behaviour towards referees no matter how bad they are. McAllister just doesn't seem to know or how to apply the rules. He lost control of that game in the second half. I think there should be two referees in hurling. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/05/2019 03:07:45 2183477 Link
As usual with Kilkenny, rumours of their demise have been greatly exaggerated. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 13/05/2019 08:45:37 2183491 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "As usual with Kilkenny, rumours of their demise have been greatly exaggerated." Cause they bet Dublin ? Dublin are an above average team at this level and they have been pretty much that for the last ten years. You need top quality forwards at this level and we've always been short on them. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 13/05/2019 10:30:13 2183537 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Cause they bet Dublin ? Dublin are an above average team at this level and they have been pretty much that for the last ten years. You need top quality forwards at this level and we've always been short on them." This is a KK team with TJ Reid, Wally Walsh, Colin Fennelly, Padraig Walsh. They are a bit weak in the full back line but I still rank them as genuine competitors. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 13/05/2019 11:45:32 2183580 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "This is a KK team with TJ Reid, Wally Walsh, Colin Fennelly, Padraig Walsh. They are a bit weak in the full back line but I still rank them as genuine competitors." No I rate Kilkenny big time but not cause they bet Dublin. If Kilkenny can get everyone back fit they'll have a big say this summer. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 13/05/2019 11:54:10 2183588 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "This is a KK team with TJ Reid, Wally Walsh, Colin Fennelly, Padraig Walsh. They are a bit weak in the full back line but I still rank them as genuine competitors." Just think what the Tipp forwards would have done to kk. You will never get a bad Kilkenny team....but all Ireland winners...not in my opinion Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 13/05/2019 11:56:05 2183589 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "As usual with Kilkenny, rumours of their demise have been greatly exaggerated." What do you classify as a demise? Arguably they have demised having not won the championship since 2015. Are you suggesting they are back as championship favorites after beating Dublin? LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2471 - 13/05/2019 11:56:40 2183590 Link
Dublin would want to cop on to themselves and concentrate more on the ball, and less on the gamesmanship. I refer to 2 of their half backs in particular attempting to goad kilkenny players, and trying to put off TJ Reid as he was taking frees. Its unsporting and does not look well, with young kids looking on. It really all falls back on their Management for allowing it to go on. bobkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 17 - 13/05/2019 12:22:13 2183604 Link
Replying To bobkat: "Dublin would want to cop on to themselves and concentrate more on the ball, and less on the gamesmanship. I refer to 2 of their half backs in particular attempting to goad kilkenny players, and trying to put off TJ Reid as he was taking frees. Its unsporting and does not look well, with young kids looking on. It really all falls back on their Management for allowing it to go on." I agree with you 100%. Then wally walsh lunged his head as chris crummy what about that? Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 13/05/2019 13:19:09 2183637 Link
Replying To Ej: "Just think what the Tipp forwards would have done to kk. You will never get a bad Kilkenny team....but all Ireland winners...not in my opinion" We'll see. They were a puck of a ball away from last years champions. I'd not say they are far away even though as I say above, I think their full back line is there to be cleaned out some day. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 13/05/2019 14:59:41 2183686 Link
Replying To bobkat: "Dublin would want to cop on to themselves and concentrate more on the ball, and less on the gamesmanship. I refer to 2 of their half backs in particular attempting to goad kilkenny players, and trying to put off TJ Reid as he was taking frees. Its unsporting and does not look well, with young kids looking on. It really all falls back on their Management for allowing it to go on." KK gave as good as they got to be fair. Plenty of goading of Sutcliffe and Tracy at times. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 13/05/2019 15:32:26 2183702 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "KK gave as good as they got to be fair. Plenty of goading of Sutcliffe and Tracy at times." KK did not even remotely give as good as they got, which players?, give examples of this goading. Ger Alyward put in a couple of stupid late hits, which he was lucky to get away with but it completely pales in comparison to the constant behaviour of Crummey and in particular Barrett. I have never seen TJ as riled up as he was as a result and to be fair at times in the first half I thought that the negative tactics were getting to him and the Wally Walsh incident came about of the typical Crummey nonsense. I would never claim that Kilkenny are angels but to say that "KK gave as good as they got to be fair" is completely false in this case. Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 13/05/2019 16:32:21 2183717 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "KK gave as good as they got to be fair. Plenty of goading of Sutcliffe and Tracy at times." That messing in the second half worked completely against Dublin in the second half. They moved the ball around really well in the first half and seemed to get caught up in that fooling in the second half. McAllister will surely get demoted again after his performance. Most of the other hurling referees aren't great either but he seemed to lose complete control of the game. Greg Kennedy should have been sent to the stands for the catch. Huw Lawlor should have been booked for the drag down. Those two failings alone are glaring and poor. As for Crummey and Walsh, what was Alan Kelly doing as umpire? He was very close to it and missed it, he should have been in there breaking it up. At least McAllister made a decision that time and booked the two of them and it looked like it was the umpire at the far end that helped him with that decision. In fairness to McAllister, he was dealing with something else at the time. Walsh was lucky not to see red and silly to react to Crummey winding him up. In typical Kilkenny fashion Walsh won the next ball in a tight ruck and fed Mullen or someone else for a handy score. There is no point trying to wind up Kilkenny players off the ball. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/05/2019 16:52:07 2183725 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "That messing in the second half worked completely against Dublin in the second half. They moved the ball around really well in the first half and seemed to get caught up in that fooling in the second half. McAllister will surely get demoted again after his performance. Most of the other hurling referees aren't great either but he seemed to lose complete control of the game. Greg Kennedy should have been sent to the stands for the catch. Huw Lawlor should have been booked for the drag down. Those two failings alone are glaring and poor. As for Crummey and Walsh, what was Alan Kelly doing as umpire? He was very close to it and missed it, he should have been in there breaking it up. At least McAllister made a decision that time and booked the two of them and it looked like it was the umpire at the far end that helped him with that decision. In fairness to McAllister, he was dealing with something else at the time. Walsh was lucky not to see red and silly to react to Crummey winding him up. In typical Kilkenny fashion Walsh won the next ball in a tight ruck and fed Mullen or someone else for a handy score. There is no point trying to wind up Kilkenny players off the ball." Our inability to win our own poc out was a bigger factor. I'd agree that it didn't help at all but in reality we were well beaten by a better side second half. 5 points flattered us to be fair. I just don't agree that the off the ball stuff was all a one way street is all. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 13/05/2019 17:07:38 2183734 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Our inability to win our own poc out was a bigger factor. I'd agree that it didn't help at all but in reality we were well beaten by a better side second half. 5 points flattered us to be fair. I just don't agree that the off the ball stuff was all a one way street is all." On today's GAA hour podcast they mention the shenanigans of the Dublin half back line in case anyone is interested Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 13/05/2019 19:45:55 2183791 Link
Grand sure, that's that. It was all them Dubs so. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 13/05/2019 20:49:02 2183808 Link
Replying To lilylanger: "What happened?" Dublin maor foirne (or something) Greg Kennedy intercepted a quickly taken free from TJ Reid late in the first half. Cathal McAllister presumably said something along the lines of "now, now, don't be doing that now" and instead of sending him to the stand, allowed him to carry on his merry way as maor foirne for the rest of the match. Backfired on Dublin I think because Cody and the fans went berserk and anytime Kennedy took the field after that the fans tore into him. I think it fired the Kilkenny players up, they certainly hurled better after that. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 13/05/2019 21:00:11 2183812 Link