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Replying To lilywhite1: "Ah Furlong please don't leave us. I enjoy very much your insightful and knowledgeable posts." he isn't going anywhere ? waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 17/04/2019 19:36:47 2179352 Link
Replying To Furlong1949: "Thanks for the comments thelongridge. I appreciate it. We never underestimate the Faithful county in Meath what u guys did to us in 1997 and 2000. If u dont mind me saying I think we would provaby have to much for Offaly currently. And yes Offaly will put it up to us , and it must be said we arent a good team yet to take anyone likely. Give a performance like we did last year v Cavan or Tippearey or even longford. Well then Offaly will have another famous victory over the Royals. But just at the moment I think we are ahead. But I can ensure we never underestimste the Faithful county. Offaly , a great gaa country with great tradition. One of my favourite gaa counties outside Meath. Matt Connor for me is the most talented gaelic footballer of all time. He was George Best of gaelic football. What balance he had.The only player I saw with balance similar was Colm Cooper and even Cooper wasnt at Matts level. Seems like good work being done at underage in Offaly. Offaly minor and under 21 under 20 teams seem.stronger. And young Cian Johnston looks exceptional talent Carrying on the great tradition of great Offaly forwards eg Tony McTeague Brendan Lowry Matt Connor Vinny Claffey Peter Brady and Niall McNamee. It wud be great to see Offaly back." Furlong. Thanks for reply, and comments about Offaly. I will be in Navan next month,but realistically Meath should win the game. Looking at the Div. 2 Final Meath, looked impressive for most of tne game, but Donegal reeled you in with a few late scores. Leinster needs a strong Meath to challenge Dublin, other counties need to become contenders too. It all kicks off next month, good luck to all counties. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 18/04/2019 11:36:55 2179425 Link
Self-praise = No praise but even the reply's on this thread more like the stuff of the old HS. It's good to be retro methinks. Let's keep the debate open and free. dingle2 (Kerry) - Posts: 278 - 18/04/2019 22:53:50 2179520 Link
Replying To dingle2: "Maybe it's GDPR or the Millenium Softies thing, ie we all have to be politically correct, but are HS posts becoming a biteen more boring and repedetive and more cautious??? Less fun??? Grand no personal issues or identifiable persons but surely genuine heart felt commentary or slagging can still pass muster. It's what we say in the local and is just banter. Why can't one be critical anymore without offending???" Well I still enjoy the match threads but the slagging that goes on between Dublin and Kerry supporters for example is not what what i would call banter. So the forums are not what they used to be but the site is second to none for GAA coverage. For match reports, reactions, results and fixtures. Take the Monaghan and Down minor game yesterday there is no sign of a report elsewhere but you could be sure hoganstand carried it. gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 21/04/2019 13:09:33 2179736 Link
Has technology dated the Hoganstand forums a bit? A bit of an upgrade with the direct reply, but the thumbs up and down are no addition for me. Posters more used to other styles of forums, and Whatsapp stule apps where you can reply instantly and the banter back and forth can be better. Would be expensive to try it here and also very hard to moderate if posts move quick. I'm not so sure that the forum posts and posters are more boring, just that other sites and apps have more of their attention. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 21/04/2019 14:01:23 2179740 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Has technology dated the Hoganstand forums a bit? A bit of an upgrade with the direct reply, but the thumbs up and down are no addition for me. Posters more used to other styles of forums, and Whatsapp stule apps where you can reply instantly and the banter back and forth can be better. Would be expensive to try it here and also very hard to moderate if posts move quick. I'm not so sure that the forum posts and posters are more boring, just that other sites and apps have more of their attention." Without a doubt. It can take ages for posts to appear sometimes, even on game days. I also find the moderation very inconsistent and often heavy handed. The ability to PM other users would also be nice to arrange ticket swaps etc. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 22/04/2019 20:20:40 2179835 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "Without a doubt. It can take ages for posts to appear sometimes, even on game days. I also find the moderation very inconsistent and often heavy handed. The ability to PM other users would also be nice to arrange ticket swaps etc." And to arrange a meeting place to 'sort it out' :D realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 22/04/2019 21:05:25 2179839 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "Without a doubt. It can take ages for posts to appear sometimes, even on game days. I also find the moderation very inconsistent and often heavy handed. The ability to PM other users would also be nice to arrange ticket swaps etc." Thumbs up and down are a joke , a way to improve it would be for the thumbs to show what posters liked or dislikes a post. And would lead to more debate royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 22/04/2019 21:18:51 2179840 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Has technology dated the Hoganstand forums a bit? A bit of an upgrade with the direct reply, but the thumbs up and down are no addition for me. Posters more used to other styles of forums, and Whatsapp stule apps where you can reply instantly and the banter back and forth can be better. Would be expensive to try it here and also very hard to moderate if posts move quick. I'm not so sure that the forum posts and posters are more boring, just that other sites and apps have more of their attention." very much. Compare the forum to virtually any other. Its miles behind. you cant have comments on games as posts are too slow to come up on website. appoint sensible, long standing posters to be moderators like other forums allow private messaging to allow posters arrange ticket sales, meet ups etc etc KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3496 - 22/04/2019 21:51:47 2179844 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Thumbs up and down are a joke , a way to improve it would be for the thumbs to show what posters liked or dislikes a post. And would lead to more debate" I have no figures but probably the amount of posts has gone down since thumbs were introduced. Instead of replying a poster could give a red thumb because a post wasn't bad but factually incorrect or because they completely agreed with it, but a red thumb showed disapproval rather than a reply which could generate banter and more conversation. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 22/04/2019 22:02:05 2179845 Link
Replying To realdub: "And to arrange a meeting place to 'sort it out' :D" Lol!! GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 22/04/2019 22:05:01 2179848 Link
Technology may have dated the Hoganstand forums a bit but its anything but boring, if anything it's a type of a 32 county type of Wikipedia that ticks all the boxes, the problem I think is with the game itself and the side shows that go with it, if anything the game has become boring and predictable so there lies the difficulty in trying to make some posts interesting. I notice the amount of posts coming through from the so called elite counties is on the wane, the way I see it is, if those counties were producing exciting / interesting games then this forum would be flooded with exciting / interesting posts so if there worth posting then there worth waiting for. Thumbs up and thumbs down are self explanatory I use them even when I don't post, the way I see it is its just another way of voting, thumbs up in favour, thumbs down against, simple. If the moderation is inconsistent, so too are some of the posters. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 22/04/2019 22:23:54 2179852 Link
The Irish sports media is becoming more and more blatantly biased in their treatment of Irish sports stories. They are fast becoming just P.R for Irish rugby. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 22/04/2019 23:33:57 2179858 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "very much. Compare the forum to virtually any other. Its miles behind. you cant have comments on games as posts are too slow to come up on website. appoint sensible, long standing posters to be moderators like other forums allow private messaging to allow posters arrange ticket sales, meet ups etc etc" I agree with the private messaging. I tried to arrange a ticket collection last year and every attempt to send information was blocked. I think the other poster to this day thinks I'm full of crap as I said I wanted them twice but I made no contact thereafter. Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 23/04/2019 08:25:23 2179865 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "I have no figures but probably the amount of posts has gone down since thumbs were introduced. Instead of replying a poster could give a red thumb because a post wasn't bad but factually incorrect or because they completely agreed with it, but a red thumb showed disapproval rather than a reply which could generate banter and more conversation." Totally agree. It's also childish, I'm old fashioned. If I disagree with someone or something moreover, then I will give my reasoning for disagreeing, and give my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm right it's just my opinion. I've seen rip posts getting thumbs down and I wonder would it happen if we could click down and see who did it. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/04/2019 18:53:45 2179971 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Totally agree. It's also childish, I'm old fashioned. If I disagree with someone or something moreover, then I will give my reasoning for disagreeing, and give my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm right it's just my opinion. I've seen rip posts getting thumbs down and I wonder would it happen if we could click down and see who did it." If the posts have gone down since the arrival of the Thumbs I would suggest it's purely coincidental. Lots of posts have been given both thumbs, red / green, doesn't that say posters have different views on the same subject. If the post is reasonable, makes sense, opens up the debate, adds a bit of humour, etc, etc, then the colour of the thumbs makes little difference to me, if I think its worth a reply then I will. What saddens me a bit is the noticeable drop off in posts on the county forums, most noticeably on the high profile counties. Four counties in particular have their forums in "suspended animation," namely, Armagh, Offaly, Kilkenny and Cork there may be others, all winners of every honour at the highest level. In my way of thinking if someone with interest feels a need to post then he won't need a green thumb to encourage him, neither will a red thumb discourage him. For a Forum that's becoming boring, as of now it's on its 4th page with 136 green thumbs and 56 red thumbs, not bad at all. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 23/04/2019 21:25:55 2179991 Link
I'm late to this discussion but I agree with a lot of the opinions already posted. Too long to see posts go up and it's especially so during game times,especially half time etc when I like to put up a post about a great score or a controversial refereeing call etc. At other times I am eager to reply to a post and do so only to see it NEVER appear and that is even when it has been a fairly low key response. I might have spent a fair bit of time on a post and it's very annoying to see that it doesn't even get put up. Years ago we had the non GAA forum too where anything could be and was discussed,it was great Craic in the off season when not much was happening. So yeh the whole thing is very dated and slow. The only good thing I can say is that the news articles on the website itself are fairly good and cover action from all over the country and includes good club coverage too at times. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 24/04/2019 04:10:37 2180012 Link
I've noticed a trend. As dublin became more dominant this forum became less active particularly from leinster based posters. And I think it mirrors the wider population. Very few people give football much thought these days with how one sided it's become. The hurling on the other hand is thriving but this was never a hurling centric forum. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 24/04/2019 07:13:29 2180013 Link
Replying To galwayford: "The Irish sports media is becoming more and more blatantly biased in their treatment of Irish sports stories. They are fast becoming just P.R for Irish rugby." I agree. Rugby getting pushed disproportionately according to participation and active attendance. OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 24/04/2019 10:04:21 2180030 Link
While I've no doubt the forum will get going again once the championship season kicks off it is boring at the moment because there are no games and very little to talk about quite frankly. I do feel a few small changes could completely rejuvenate the place, is there really a need for 100% screening of all posts before publishing? Just use a profanity filter and let clean posts through. If there are messers delete their posts and suspend / ban them. Of course we don't know what kind of posts are being blocked but other forums with far more relaxed moderation don't seem to have a major issue as far as I can see. I'm a member of another forum where the general level of debate is hit and miss but there is effectively 'live chat' during televised games and half time. I like that personally. Here, if you post at half time it could be 20 mins after the final whistle before it appears. There are some really good posters here and good debates are often stifled due to this lag. People are used to instant everything now. There may be a very good reason for the way the forum is run but a few suggested changes: - instantaneous posts - share tweets and other social media posts - share images - private messages - identity thumbs up / down or get rid of the feature GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 24/04/2019 14:18:20 2180073 Link