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Replying To Lockjaw: "When Patrick gets back up to speed you will my boy!" Perhaps you're right Lockjaw.....but I stand by my post. I haven't seen it yet. I am usually quietly confident when facing Donegal, I think its the same confidence Tyrone have when the see us coming. It is usually well founded but its never a nailed on certainty. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 07/05/2019 17:35:59 2182344 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "When Patrick gets back up to speed you will my boy!" I'm sure Paddy will still only have his left foot when he comes back. monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 378 - 07/05/2019 18:04:29 2182347 Link
Its a Tyrone v Donegal final according to Kevin Mc Stay.You couldnt make it up. neutral (None) - Posts: 358 - 07/05/2019 18:45:48 2182354 Link
Replying To Gator: "Perhaps you're right Lockjaw.....but I stand by my post. I haven't seen it yet. I am usually quietly confident when facing Donegal, I think its the same confidence Tyrone have when the see us coming. It is usually well founded but its never a nailed on certainty." This decade the honours are split down the middle between Donegal and Monaghan in the ulster championship. 2013 we were well beaten 2014 you were well beaten 2015 we lost by a point 2016 we won by 3 after a draw p5 w2 d1 l2 I would be quietly confident against certain teams, but I think that both donegal and Monaghan have big shouts against each other so would rather keep my powder dray on this fixture. Tyrone would be our bogey team now rather than Monaghan. We have a good record against them if you audit the last several years, but the last 3 are in tyrone's favour. This is why I would have Tyrone, donegal and Monaghan neck and neck in terms of who can win ulster. Tyrone would be bookies favourites but I think they are beatable by either ourselves or Monaghan on our best days. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 07/05/2019 23:11:43 2182394 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "This decade the honours are split down the middle between Donegal and Monaghan in the ulster championship. 2013 we were well beaten 2014 you were well beaten 2015 we lost by a point 2016 we won by 3 after a draw p5 w2 d1 l2 I would be quietly confident against certain teams, but I think that both donegal and Monaghan have big shouts against each other so would rather keep my powder dray on this fixture. Tyrone would be our bogey team now rather than Monaghan. We have a good record against them if you audit the last several years, but the last 3 are in tyrone's favour. This is why I would have Tyrone, donegal and Monaghan neck and neck in terms of who can win ulster. Tyrone would be bookies favourites but I think they are beatable by either ourselves or Monaghan on our best days." I wouldn't dispute any of that either. I feel the same to be honest. I am just more nervy of our lads v Tyrone when it comes to it. A few of my friends from the hills feel the same about us (not all) Adding the league puts a nicer shine on it for us P11 W6 D2 L3 :) Not to be taken as a very fair reflection but I would add one of those was a league 2 final.... Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 08/05/2019 11:17:10 2182437 Link
Replying To Gator: "I wouldn't dispute any of that either. I feel the same to be honest. I am just more nervy of our lads v Tyrone when it comes to it. A few of my friends from the hills feel the same about us (not all) Adding the league puts a nicer shine on it for us P11 W6 D2 L3 :) Not to be taken as a very fair reflection but I would add one of those was a league 2 final...." League counts. I would Asterix the league 2 final that year as we were looking farther down the road. But overall, I think that we have a poor record in the league in general away from home against everyone. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 08/05/2019 18:44:57 2182575 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "League counts. I would Asterix the league 2 final that year as we were looking farther down the road. But overall, I think that we have a poor record in the league in general away from home against everyone." We Drew 1, lost 1, won 1 in Donegal. Ye lost in CP and clones. I think its more interesting that 4 occasions there has been a prize on offer (3 ulster titles, 1 league 2). Asterix aside Monaghan have won three times. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 09/05/2019 11:01:34 2182682 Link
Replying To Gator: "We Drew 1, lost 1, won 1 in Donegal. Ye lost in CP and clones. I think its more interesting that 4 occasions there has been a prize on offer (3 ulster titles, 1 league 2). Asterix aside Monaghan have won three times." Well done. Maybe we can meet in the AI final sometime and you might continue the winning streak who knows? Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/05/2019 11:17:32 2182686 Link
Replying To Gator: "We Drew 1, lost 1, won 1 in Donegal. Ye lost in CP and clones. I think its more interesting that 4 occasions there has been a prize on offer (3 ulster titles, 1 league 2). Asterix aside Monaghan have won three times." Babs Keating famously said "Donkeys don't win derbys". Monaghan proved that wrong in 2013 and 2015. Very lucky Ulster wins. To meet a Donegal team with AI hangover in 2013 and badly managed in 2015 as well as Tyrone still being in transition in that time. himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 09/05/2019 12:00:56 2182694 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "Well done. Maybe we can meet in the AI final sometime and you might continue the winning streak who knows?" Thanks and yeah, I'd fancy our chances then too. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 09/05/2019 12:02:11 2182695 Link
Replying To monaghanmad: "I'm sure Paddy will still only have his left foot when he comes back." Aye but Paddy's left foot is worth about 3 regular feet! Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9133 - 09/05/2019 14:07:06 2182740 Link
Replying To himachechy: "Babs Keating famously said "Donkeys don't win derbys". Monaghan proved that wrong in 2013 and 2015. Very lucky Ulster wins. To meet a Donegal team with AI hangover in 2013 and badly managed in 2015 as well as Tyrone still being in transition in that time." Not much need for that comment and not much truth in it either. and anyway both Donegal and Monaghan have a long way to go before either have a chance of meeting in ulster this year so lets worry about that. Monaghan defiantly have a easier route but as we all know nothing is guaranteed with Monaghan. Donegal have it tougher and i cant see you getting past Tyrone. Although you are another animal when Mc Brearty is playing. I do hope we meet later in the year in ulster because well if we dont win it id like to see Donegal win it ahead of Tyrone. No offence Tyrone lol farneygael (Monaghan) - Posts: 277 - 09/05/2019 14:08:54 2182741 Link
Replying To himachechy: "Babs Keating famously said "Donkeys don't win derbys". Monaghan proved that wrong in 2013 and 2015. Very lucky Ulster wins. To meet a Donegal team with AI hangover in 2013 and badly managed in 2015 as well as Tyrone still being in transition in that time." Aye right. lol. That Donegal team won an all ireland against a team known for bottling a final in CP. When faced with a more seasoned outfit it didnt work out. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 09/05/2019 15:53:19 2182769 Link
Replying To Gator: "Aye right. lol. That Donegal team won an all ireland against a team known for bottling a final in CP. When faced with a more seasoned outfit it didnt work out." We still won it. Would gladly beat any team in a final to have our name on the trophy. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/05/2019 16:07:15 2182774 Link
All this talk of us and Monaghan would make me boke. Monaghan regulalry beat us because we give them no respect and there is an opinion with many people in Donegal that we are just better than them. This goes back a long time and I remember getting a slap from them before in Ballybofey before there was a back door and that still hurts. Monaghan on the other hand treat everyone the same and never take a team for granted, small county syndrome some might say, but it serves them well. It's my honest opinion that it will count for nothing however as I still feel Tyrone are the team to beat in Ulster. They used the league to try out new systems and seem to have found another way to play. This was needed as they did look one dimensional last year but if they can mix the running game with a kick passing game then they will be very hard to stop this year. Donegal are improving but we don't have the physicality yet to trouble the more seasoned teams and I really worry about our No.6 position. The one thing we do have is an abundance of attacking players so we will trouble teams at that end. Monaghan have been flogging the same players now for too long and although they have added a few new players, I don't feel they have added enough around the middle of the park. They are good at the back and Mc Manus is still in the top 3 players in the country but I just don't think they will have enough for Tyrone either. All three teams should make the Super 8's Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 09/05/2019 21:08:22 2182833 Link
Replying To Tir Conaill Abu: "All this talk of us and Monaghan would make me boke. Monaghan regulalry beat us because we give them no respect and there is an opinion with many people in Donegal that we are just better than them. This goes back a long time and I remember getting a slap from them before in Ballybofey before there was a back door and that still hurts. Monaghan on the other hand treat everyone the same and never take a team for granted, small county syndrome some might say, but it serves them well. It's my honest opinion that it will count for nothing however as I still feel Tyrone are the team to beat in Ulster. They used the league to try out new systems and seem to have found another way to play. This was needed as they did look one dimensional last year but if they can mix the running game with a kick passing game then they will be very hard to stop this year. Donegal are improving but we don't have the physicality yet to trouble the more seasoned teams and I really worry about our No.6 position. The one thing we do have is an abundance of attacking players so we will trouble teams at that end. Monaghan have been flogging the same players now for too long and although they have added a few new players, I don't feel they have added enough around the middle of the park. They are good at the back and Mc Manus is still in the top 3 players in the country but I just don't think they will have enough for Tyrone either. All three teams should make the Super 8's" Always a good healthy rivalry, & I would think respect, between Donegal & Monaghan. Agree re Tyrone. Difficult to compete with an unnatural level of fitness..... time will tell a lot I suppose. greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 09/05/2019 22:11:11 2182848 Link
Replying To greysoil: "Always a good healthy rivalry, & I would think respect, between Donegal & Monaghan. Agree re Tyrone. Difficult to compete with an unnatural level of fitness..... time will tell a lot I suppose." Don't forget strength. Physically tyrone were much farther down the road than all other teams last year. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/05/2019 23:19:27 2182856 Link
Replying To Gator: "Aye right. lol. That Donegal team won an all ireland against a team known for bottling a final in CP. When faced with a more seasoned outfit it didnt work out." This is parody account right? greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 10/05/2019 04:51:03 2182860 Link
Replying To Tir Conaill Abu: "All this talk of us and Monaghan would make me boke. Monaghan regulalry beat us because we give them no respect and there is an opinion with many people in Donegal that we are just better than them. This goes back a long time and I remember getting a slap from them before in Ballybofey before there was a back door and that still hurts. Monaghan on the other hand treat everyone the same and never take a team for granted, small county syndrome some might say, but it serves them well. It's my honest opinion that it will count for nothing however as I still feel Tyrone are the team to beat in Ulster. They used the league to try out new systems and seem to have found another way to play. This was needed as they did look one dimensional last year but if they can mix the running game with a kick passing game then they will be very hard to stop this year. Donegal are improving but we don't have the physicality yet to trouble the more seasoned teams and I really worry about our No.6 position. The one thing we do have is an abundance of attacking players so we will trouble teams at that end. Monaghan have been flogging the same players now for too long and although they have added a few new players, I don't feel they have added enough around the middle of the park. They are good at the back and Mc Manus is still in the top 3 players in the country but I just don't think they will have enough for Tyrone either. All three teams should make the Super 8's" Yep. Don't disagree with any of that. We are good, good enough for super 8s but things need to go well for us to get there. Donegal, Tyrone and Monaghan are the leading contenders for Ulster but we all know its far being as simple as that. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 10/05/2019 10:12:35 2182890 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "We still won it. Would gladly beat any team in a final to have our name on the trophy." Indeed. The comment not aimed at your good self there...Its to match the 'donkeys don't win derbies' for absolute codswallop. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 10/05/2019 10:14:19 2182891 Link