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Sure Mayo were finished, dead and buried last summer....everyone was dancing in our grave and then the same after the Dublin and Galway defeats in the league....I'd swear there is no middle ground anymore.... Every county seems to be judged harshly after a defeat nodays. Fact is Kerry will be winning all Ireland's soon and we there or thereabouts this year...still think it's a year or two too early for them... Mayo of course (I hope), Tyrone, Galway, Donegal are all well capable of reaching the final. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 02/04/2019 08:22:55 2177175 Link 7 |
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aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 665 - 02/04/2019 08:27:25 2177176 Link 0 |
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Oh absolutely. He has a skill set though that mirrors those two footballing geniuses. Probably alien to modern day football but nice to see at the same time.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 02/04/2019 08:42:32 2177177 Link 0 |
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i would rate Michael Donnellan as probably one of the top 5 footballers of the least 25 years. incredible player and unmarkable at his peak. Walsh not even in the same ballpark as him centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 02/04/2019 08:58:02 2177178 Link 0 |
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Keegan is one of the all time greats, the best man marker in the game the last 5 years and capable of big scores at the other end. I'm simply suggesting he's no angel and gets away with it, Galway and everyone else would love a player like Keegan. JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 02/04/2019 09:21:53 2177186 Link 0 |
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He said we should have done better, we missed plenty of chances. He knows we need to keep improving. One man's honesty is an other mans overconfidence.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7343 - 02/04/2019 09:42:49 2177190 Link 3 |
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Not saying that Mayo didn't deserve their win, they did.. but am I the only one that thought David Cliffords goal should have stood. I celebrated wildly as it was rolling into the net, only for the ref to call it back for a foul which I thought was a perfectly executed tackle. AnFear16 (Kerry) - Posts: 34 - 02/04/2019 09:59:49 2177191 Link 2 |
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Indeed. My hope for Kerry is that David Moran, Gavin White, Jason Foley and Paul Geaney come in to the team for the summer and make us better. We missed Moran desperately on Sunday in particular. I think Dublin are clear favourites but there are probably 5-6 teams after that who can all beat each other on a given day. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 02/04/2019 10:47:36 2177203 Link 7 |
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Completely disagree on saying Shane Walsh is not in the same ball park, Shane Walsh has the ability to be the greatest footballer in Ireland he has it all unbelievable pace unbelievable skill the man is a ridiculous talent , what's killing him is the stupid tactic Galway use that's not helping his game. But imo Shane Walsh is a much more talented player than Donnellan who was a great player but he didn't have Walsh's ability.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/04/2019 10:51:34 2177204 Link 3 |
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Yep and who said he is an angel? The only time I saw people on here from Mayo getting annoyed is when he kept Connolly quiet and the suggestion was he literally fouled him for 70 mins every time they played, which was laughable. I have seen him many times and kept a close eye on him especially in those Dublin games, he very rarely fouls his man off the ball, he just stays within 3 or 4 feet constantly when the ball is not near them, and is toe to toe when the ball gets closer, especially in the shooting zones. He probably gets away with 3 or 4 sneaky fouls per game, but every player does. Corner backs get away with more but people are looking for reasons to have a pop at Keegan. I saw some people calling him all sorts on twitter post match highlighting an incident where Paddy Durcan was the man involved not Keegan. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7889 - 02/04/2019 10:52:58 2177205 Link 1 |
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I think Kerry need a few more in your face Kieran Donaghy thinking on their feet type of leaders. Clifford wasn't used smart enough, as a scorer, provider or decoy. Saw him playing minor and now as a senior he's a class apart. I was in in Lower Hogan and could see yer forwards up close. A lot of, what I thought was needless, running off the ball, I think to try and create space. Not enough fast direct ball to forwards more than capable of taking scores. O'Donoghue was no addition, looks overweight and disinterested, Geaney should have been in much earlier. I watched back some of it and , I think, Crowley, the corner back had a very good game, seemed to have to do other lads jobs too. Despite conceding three goals I think yer goalie was great. But his defenders left him with too much today. I'm not convinced that packing the Kerry defence isn't compensating for defenders who should defend better. Both teams have a lot of improving to do before and during the championship.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7343 - 02/04/2019 10:53:21 2177206 Link 3 |
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I had the pleasure of marking him when I was a 17 year old back in 2001. I say pleasure but that might not be the correct word.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7889 - 02/04/2019 10:55:24 2177207 Link 0 |
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He does foul a lot off the ball but fair play to him he gets away with it and he's a brilliant player and attacking half back. If you don't believe me go onto YouTube you'll see him dragging Connolly to the ground a number of times off the ball.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/04/2019 11:08:06 2177209 Link 3 |
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I agree on Walsh's talent, he has more of it than anyone else. I do think he gets more stick than anyone else too because of it and we expect so much of him but he's had a really good league yet gets very little recognition for it. I get what you're saying on Donnellan but who was born with the talent Walsh was? He's arguably the most naturally talented player I've seen in terms of the skills he possesses. We need to see more from him, he should be the best player in the country. To what extent the system is restricting him I don't know. For 3 or 4 years Donnellan was one of the the best players in the country if not the best, he had a lot of talent but more often than not we seen him use it. He was a big game player, had great games in all those semi's and finals. He's one of the greatest wing forwards we've ever seen. JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 02/04/2019 11:09:01 2177210 Link 0 |
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Lol a Youtube clip, there were youtube clips showing Dublin players off the ball in those same matches, more incidents that were shown to prove Keegan getting a black card was pressure that was put on the officials. Now surely if you came across the edited Keegan footage you must be aware of the footage showing all the Dublin players at the dark arts.? Childish stuff to bring this up. I was at those finals, and the day he cleaned Cavanagh, and find it hilarious that people think he gets away with murder off the ball throughout the whole game. He might get away with 3 or 4 quick jersey pulls off the ball in a game. People are only watching Keegan, and ignoring corner backs etc doing far worse more often. Kevin Mcloughlin was absolutely destroyed off the ball for the whole game Sunday, his man should have been sent to the line before he eventually got a yellow. Not a peep about it.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7889 - 02/04/2019 11:39:48 2177222 Link 1 |
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I do agree a fully fit Donegal team are ahead of Kerry but I'd put them ahead of Galway and possibly Tyrone if everybody is fit for the big games. Kerry have huge potential and we could see a great team being followed by another (Kerry) but there are too many experienced teams ahead of them to win Sam this year. My prediction from before January was Sam would be won by Dublin unless a fresh Mayo team give it another shot! It's Dublin or Mayo for me with an outside shot for Donegal.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 02/04/2019 12:21:14 2177236 Link 1 |
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There's no doubt that Keegan gets away with more than other's , think it's the fact that he smiles or laugh's while doing it that might infuriate people that bit more. Was at the game on Sunday and i don't think Kevin McLoughlin's marker should have been sent off. Thought Kevin was going down too easily at times , usually not his style so was surprised by that. Far more concerning than Keegan must be Aidan O Shea's silly fouls especially while on a yellow. It's fine as Mayo went on to win but if Clifford were to score and Kerry go on to win that game, O Shea would have got the same treament Vaughan did a few years ago. He would have got slaughtered by fans , journalists and pundits alike. I'd understand if it was a professional foul or a last ditch tackle but it was a strange decision by O'Shea that could have cost Mayo. Fewpucks24 (Galway) - Posts: 124 - 02/04/2019 13:00:02 2177250 Link 1 |
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Were talking about lee Keegan here not Dublin players , but if you want to bring up Dublin players no problem. As I've said he's a great player but he's a genius at fouling off the ball.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/04/2019 13:02:06 2177253 Link 5 |
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No team coming from division 2 will win sam. Donegal are not even in top 4 let alone contenders. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 02/04/2019 13:48:21 2177269 Link 4 |
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Always felt Connolly was incorrectly seen as the instigator/badguy when playing on Keegan. Saw it first hand on Sunday the constant fouling that is left unpunished. Keegan is brilliant at what he those but refs have to start copping on to this. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 02/04/2019 13:52:15 2177270 Link 4 |