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Kerry in this league are relying on young O'Shea to get the majority of their scores and if Horan has a plan in place to shut him down where will that match winning score come from? Clifford I agree is unlikely to be risked,O Donoghue if he plays will be rusty and Geaney is a big loss.

Wins for Kerry so far was by 1 point v Dublin, 4 points v Tyrone, 3 points v Cavan, 1 point v Galway and 4 points v Monaghan. Educated guess would say Kerry will likely win but by no more than a point or two.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 185 - 14/03/2019 17:31:38    2172239

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Replying To 37sowhat:  "Interesting statistic Both counties played Donegal in 2012 and Kildare in 2018 (championship) Mayo still had 10 of the 2012 team in action last year whilst only 2 of Kerry's 2012 outfit donned the jersey in 2018 The much maligned previous Kerry backroom gave debuts to more young footballers than any other since 1975 At a time of total transition it was amazing how Kerry competed at top table from '12 to '18 The young chickens have now come home to roost so good times should roll in the Kingdom Mayo would seem to have a huge rebuild ahead with much less talent than Kerry have Tat said league form and championship form are on a different plane So good luck to our Mayo friends"
At what point are Kerry going to be considered out of transition? We've been hearing it for the best part of a decade now, it's getting ridiculous.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 191 - 14/03/2019 19:03:33    2172257

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Replying To greatpoint:  "At what point are Kerry going to be considered out of transition? We've been hearing it for the best part of a decade now, it's getting ridiculous."
Sure Mayo have been in "decline" since 2014...they so called experts were eventually going to get it right....keep saying it long enough.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9631 - 14/03/2019 20:23:21    2172273

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Replying To greatpoint:  "At what point are Kerry going to be considered out of transition? We've been hearing it for the best part of a decade now, it's getting ridiculous."
I think Kerry had a relatively settled side between 2013-17 during most of the Fitzmaurice era. They weren't in transition, they were just not as good as Kerry teams of the past. Yes there were players coming and going but the spine of the side was pretty consistent.

Kerry turned over half their team in 2018 and have brought in even more new faces this year. That is genuinely a transition period, I don't know what else you could call it with that many new players and a new manager as well this year.

On the game Saturday I'd be very hopeful of a Kerry win but have learned to take nothing for granted. I foolishly didn't get a ticket early but am on the hunt and hope to make it can't believe I'm stuck for a ticket for a league game it's a good sign I guess.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1197 - 14/03/2019 22:01:38    2172294

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Replying To greatpoint:  "At what point are Kerry going to be considered out of transition? We've been hearing it for the best part of a decade now, it's getting ridiculous."
The answer is now All of the 'Noughties' have hung up their boots and the players of the first two teams of the minors' five in a row are now men. Over to them NOW

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 477 - 14/03/2019 22:40:26    2172302

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Replying To greatpoint:  "At what point are Kerry going to be considered out of transition? We've been hearing it for the best part of a decade now, it's getting ridiculous."
The answer is NOW the old guard of the noughties have all gone and the players from the first two of the minors' five in a row are now men Over to them NOW

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 477 - 14/03/2019 22:43:42    2172305

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I think Kerry had a relatively settled side between 2013-17 during most of the Fitzmaurice era. They weren't in transition, they were just not as good as Kerry teams of the past. Yes there were players coming and going but the spine of the side was pretty consistent.

Kerry turned over half their team in 2018 and have brought in even more new faces this year. That is genuinely a transition period, I don't know what else you could call it with that many new players and a new manager as well this year.

On the game Saturday I'd be very hopeful of a Kerry win but have learned to take nothing for granted. I foolishly didn't get a ticket early but am on the hunt and hope to make it can't believe I'm stuck for a ticket for a league game it's a good sign I guess."
That makes two of us !!

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 477 - 14/03/2019 22:45:46    2172307

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Sure Mayo have been in "decline" since 2014...they so called experts were eventually going to get it right....keep saying it long enough."
Are Mayo not in decline since 1952?

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 549 - 15/03/2019 09:11:06    2172331

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Replying To 37sowhat:  "The answer is NOW the old guard of the noughties have all gone and the players from the first two of the minors' five in a row are now men Over to them NOW"
In 2012 Mayo had a fairly young team with a lot of improvement in front of it, while Kerry had the team which served them so well during the noughties, but who were always going to start hanging up their boots. So no mystery in terms of the relative turnovers of both sides. The exact opposite is the case right now, the only difference and pity being that the our lads have no medals to go with the glorious memories. I pessimistic about this year, but I haven't completely given up all hope.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 1941 - 15/03/2019 09:46:35    2172337

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Are Mayo not in decline since 1952?"
Mayo might be in decline DOC, so it doesn't say much for a Galway team supposedly on the rise that they're afraid to go man-for-man with our bunch of crocked oldies. Memories of the last time they tried and a 17 point hammering I suppose. It's a bit of a compliment that Galway devised their game plan to beat Mayo... it just doesn't work with everybody else. KW's like you... too focussed on the neighbours! Best of luck to Corofin, a pure footballing side... if only the county side took a leaf out of their book.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 1941 - 15/03/2019 10:25:56    2172348

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Are Mayo not in decline since 1952?"
I'm not that old DOC like yourself....I can only remember the mid/late 90s onward....

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9631 - 15/03/2019 11:24:01    2172360

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Replying To Pericles:  "Mayo might be in decline DOC, so it doesn't say much for a Galway team supposedly on the rise that they're afraid to go man-for-man with our bunch of crocked oldies. Memories of the last time they tried and a 17 point hammering I suppose. It's a bit of a compliment that Galway devised their game plan to beat Mayo... it just doesn't work with everybody else. KW's like you... too focussed on the neighbours! Best of luck to Corofin, a pure footballing side... if only the county side took a leaf out of their book."
ah yes, I forgot that yer open expansive play yielded so many All Ireland's...

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 549 - 15/03/2019 12:09:47    2172372

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I'm not that old DOC like yourself....I can only remember the mid/late 90s onward...."
Mid-late 90's was indeed a great time to be alive!

Ciaran Mc, PJ, James Nallen, Ja-Fa, Salthills Maurice Sheridan, Sean óg....

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 549 - 15/03/2019 12:15:28    2172375

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Replying To The_DOC:  "ah yes, I forgot that yer open expansive play yielded so many All Ireland's..."
Still might DOC...

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 1941 - 15/03/2019 13:09:39    2172384

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Replying To 37sowhat:  "The answer is NOW the old guard of the noughties have all gone and the players from the first two of the minors' five in a row are now men Over to them NOW"
If that's the case then why did you describe 2012-2018 as a period of total transition? Those are the exact words you used just a few posts up.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 191 - 15/03/2019 13:09:43    2172385

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Replying To Pericles:  "Still might DOC..."
Fair point!

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 549 - 15/03/2019 13:41:35    2172394

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Kerry team:
Brian Kelly Brian Ó Ceallaigh Killarney Legion
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Peter Crowley Peadar Ó Cruadhlaoich Laune Rangers
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Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe
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Brian Ó Beaglaíoch Briain Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht
5
Gavin Crowley Gabhin Ó Crualaidh Templenoe
6
Paul Murphy Pól Ó Murchú Rathmore
7
Tom O'Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Dingle
8
Jack Barry Jeaic de Barra Na Gaeil
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Mark Griffin Marc Ó Grifín St Michaels/Foilmore
10
Dara Moynihan Dara Ó Muineacháin Spa Killarney
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Sean O'Shea Seán Ó Sé Kenmare
12
Gavin O'Brien Gabhin Ó Briain Kerins O'Rahillys
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Kevin McCarthy Caoimhín Mac Cárthaigh Kilcummin
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Tommy Walsh Tomás Breathnach Kerins O'Rahillys
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Stephen O'Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare
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Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore
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Shane Enright Sean Mac Ionrachtaigh Tarbert
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Diarmuid O'Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil
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Jason Foley Iasún Ó Foghlú Ballydonoghue
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Tomás Ó Sé Tomás Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
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Graham O'Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda
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Adrian Spilliane Adrian Ó Spealáin Templenoe
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Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle
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James O'Donoghue Séamus Ó Donnchú Killarney Legion
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Jonathan Lyne Ionatán Ó Leighin Killarney Legion
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Killian Spillane Cillian Ó Spealáin Templenoe
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David Clifford Dáithí Ó Clumháin Fossa

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 4449 - 15/03/2019 20:24:36    2172461

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Come on Mayo, it can be done, Kerry are there for the taking.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1473 - 15/03/2019 21:10:29    2172470

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Replying To galwayford:  "Come on Mayo, it can be done, Kerry are there for the taking."
You can never hide your dislike for Kerry.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1030 - 15/03/2019 22:42:54    2172482

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Congrats to mayo deservedly coming out on top of a good competitive game in dreadful conditions. Aidan O'Shea was incredible and the tackling and workrate all over the field was immense.

Kerry hopefully will have learned more tonight than they did in any of the wins to date. Serious issues in defence and midfield I am afraid.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1197 - 16/03/2019 20:53:48    2172774

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