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What I mean is there are loads of small villages around the country with fine GAA pitches and changing rooms. Many have indoor facilities and gyms too. Rugby is confined for the most part to big towns and the cities. You are kind of proving my point in saying "Think over 2018/2019 so far there has been at least 4 new rugby clubs set up". Rugby is on the crest of a wave at the moment. Imagine how many rugby clubs would be set up if they were granted access to the GAA pitch on every town and village in the country? A lot more. Why would the GAA facilitate a rival sport to spring up in village where they are already tight on numbers? tomhealycork (Cork) - Posts: 80 - 01/02/2019 15:29:48 2161460 Link 1 |
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You are kind of proving my point in saying "Think over 2018/2019 so far there has been at least 4 new rugby clubs set up". Rugby is on the crest of a wave at the moment. Imagine how many rugby clubs would be set up if they were granted access to the GAA pitch on every town and village in the country? A lot more. Why would the GAA facilitate a rival sport to spring up in village where they are already tight on numbers? DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 01/02/2019 15:49:48 2161473 Link 0 |
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The point you are missing is that your suggestion is one way street . There are no rugby or soccer stadia in this country which are capable of hosting Gaelic Games . The pitches are too small . The only organisation which has the stadia to ground share with other sports is The GAA. The argument that any organisation that is in receipt of taxpayers money/government grants when developing new playing facilities should be compelled to facilitate other sports is a nonsense . If that point of view becomes policy then it must be applied to all field sporting organisations not just The GAA. If Leinster Rugby were to develop their own stadium and were in receipt of government grants they would have to lay a pitch that was big enough to accommodate Gaelic Games with all the extra costs that would entail as a result of the increase in the size of the stadium . If Dundalk FC were to develop a new stadium they too were they in receipt of government grants would have to lay down a pitch that was big enough to accommodate Gaelic Games with all the extra costs that would entail . It's another example of Shane Ross who is the archetypal political chancer jumping on the bandwagon of a popular issue without engaging his brain . What he knows about sport could be written on the back of a stamp .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 01/02/2019 17:20:03 2161498 Link 6 |
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Most of the GAA pitches have been in place long before grants were available. A few counties in our country have no more that 3 or 4 pitches and the soccer folk have no more than that with many of their pitches being financed totally out of the public purse - the home of SR being one in South Dublin. Most if not all the comments made by Shane Ross are 'village idiot' type comments - the guy forgets to put his brain in gear before say something- where did they get him from? Can you give me the name of a few large capital projects (GAA) that received a 70% grant (or 50%) from the government. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 02/02/2019 21:56:31 2161787 Link 4 |
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Most if not all the comments made by Shane Ross are 'village idiot' type comments - the guy forgets to put his brain in gear before say something- where did they get him from? Really? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 02/02/2019 23:15:59 2161810 Link 3 |
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Eh yes.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 02/02/2019 23:53:59 2161824 Link 0 |
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The sports capital grants over the years are listed on the department website, GAA clubs feature heavily with many getting very substantial grants. Most county councils also run community grant schemes that GAA clubs can apply for and many have gotten LEADER funding for all weather pitches etc. What county has only 3-4 pitches btw? My own club have extended the clubhouse, new training pitch and an all weather facility over the past decade. All projects were grant aided, and the all weather facility is rented out to other clubs regularly. It is a great source of income for the club. If you know of clubs who have developed everything without grants then they need to be advised to replace their committee ASAP. It would be a ludicrous way to run a club when there are so many grants available. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 03/02/2019 00:01:31 2161828 Link 4 |
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Post up some examples so, rather than hearsay.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 03/02/2019 02:25:46 2161845 Link 4 |
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A minister for sport who, when talking about recently crowned Irish world champions couldn't even get their names correct . A minister for sport who was gung ho when going to Rio in 2016 about putting Pat Hickey in his place . He was left looking like a fool . It took the Brazilian police to put Hickey in his place . A minister for sport who gives a large grant with no strings attached to a fee paying school to install an all weather hockey pitch whilst at the same time waving a big stick at the GAA telling them that grants in the future may be contingent on opening their facilities to other courts . He's the archetypal political chancer who jumps on popular political bandwagons . You need to take your head out of the sand .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 03/02/2019 11:42:10 2161914 Link 0 |
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One of the points missed by many here is that Lord Ross wouldn't have even known what was going on if the GAA hadn't allowed the Liam Miller Testimonial issue fester & fester. Even the comments by the DG & President since about feeling pressured & bullied are down to their disastrous PR handling of this & poor & indecisive decision making. Once it became national headlines, Ross as usual was always going to jump on the bandwagon, the GAA gave him the ammunition. Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 03/02/2019 11:43:35 2161915 Link 0 |
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You should stop making assumptions. Ross is a seasoned politician and journalist. An independent TD without party loyalties or bias and has a business background. He surely knows very little about sport but doesn't get to pick his government portfolio but that won't stop him putting his foot in it with some comments on sport. Keeps Gift Grub going. He knows as much about sport as Harris knows about Health, Murphy knows about building houses and Varadkar knows about the army. The three wise men who tell us things are improving because sure aren't they spending plenty of taxpayers money. No progress reports, no effectiveness of money spent, no plans in a lot of cases of troubleshooting before investing, zero accountability. Ross faced down the Vintners Association on drink driving legislation. Something no party would do as it would, unfortunately, be political suicide. He's nearly 70. Could retire comfortably on money made even before a pension is paid so I'm not sure he's electioneering as much as the younger party politicians. Apologies in advance if he has, but I don't think he specifically referred to the GAA being made to groundshare in some cases. But put up the links here and I'll happily eat my words. He's talking about future spending on sports projects and not wasting money on resources that could be shared. Makes sense to me. If Dundalk FC owners when they took over last year had said they would put millions into the new county grounds to groundshare near the college would you be happy with that if it meant Louth GAA could invest the money saved? Very hypothetical question I know. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 03/02/2019 16:33:02 2162020 Link 4 |