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Vote: Hand Pass Rule

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Vote so far

Almost 99% No.

I can see many players voting likewise when they report back to the GPA. The GPA will have a very clear mandate imo and if the GAA deliberately choose to ignore it could cause bother.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18769 - 11/01/2019 09:50:58    2156535

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Not saying either way as I'm still deciding, but swinging to no .
But in the other provinces apart from Ulster hasn't the goal count gone up since its introduction?"
Ulster are always ahead of the curve when it comes to implementing defensive systems so it will probably take other provinces a while to catch up...haha

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 364 - 11/01/2019 10:10:05    2156541

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No. I've seen two games with the rules and seen many moves break down or a free given due to this. Many other times, players brought the ball back out the field to get their kickpass in before trying again, even after only 2 handpasses. They don't want to risk the ball being turned over before the 3rd handpass is even given. I've also heard players shouting the number of passes done to remind everyone, as a player receiving the ball may not have been counting themselves. Do we really want a situation where players are counting handpasses, rather than thinking of playing the actual game, marking their man, the run they'll make etc. Joke of a rule.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 871 - 11/01/2019 10:12:34    2156542

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Handpass rule cant continue, its not the right solution, maybe a limit on handpasses in your own half or something..
But having this rule in for the winter and early comps might actually improve kicking skills of teams, they have had too kick more so practice it more and used more in games..so maybe the more use of the kick pass, even just minimal, will continue for teams going forward

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 223 - 11/01/2019 10:43:05    2156552

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Replying To tommy132:  "Handpass rule cant continue, its not the right solution, maybe a limit on handpasses in your own half or something..
But having this rule in for the winter and early comps might actually improve kicking skills of teams, they have had too kick more so practice it more and used more in games..so maybe the more use of the kick pass, even just minimal, will continue for teams going forward"
Nothing wrong with the kicking skills of most players

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4887 - 11/01/2019 12:04:38    2156575

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The least skillful players in the modern game are much more skillful than the majority of players from the 80s and before. If you hypothetically transported any modern day corner back to the 80s they'd probably be considered a flair player

Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts: 11518 - 11/01/2019 12:31:25    2156578

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No

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 1977 - 11/01/2019 12:35:00    2156581

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Gaelic football is one of the greatest field games in the World. Ba é an chuiche Gaelige an cluiche is fearr sa domhan.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1360 - 11/01/2019 12:40:18    2156584

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No.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1513 - 11/01/2019 12:55:32    2156588

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No

The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1065 - 11/01/2019 13:06:50    2156591

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Yes, keep it for league. GPA & County managers can sod off!

Convert1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 7 - 11/01/2019 13:32:33    2156598

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No....handpasssing is not the problem, handpasssing is a product of the problem which is 14 men defending in their own 45 allowing very very limited space for attacking plays.

Dublin tactic of ball retention looked horrible but I loved it, they put themselves in a position to do it and the team losing still sat in and didn't push yet it was Dublin critised.....I simply cannot understand how Dublin were so widely critised for this

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 322 - 11/01/2019 13:49:35    2156601

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no

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 148 - 11/01/2019 13:56:25    2156602

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Replying To Convert1:  "Yes, keep it for league. GPA & County managers can sod off!"
Yeah the players can sod off

lol

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18769 - 11/01/2019 14:34:01    2156607

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No

Seamy_Hendrix (Derry) - Posts: 43 - 11/01/2019 15:06:15    2156615

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Nothing wrong with the kicking skills of most players"
Training the last while players know and would have been told to look for the kick pass more often, they would have to work on kick passing a bit more and in games players would be looking to kick more..if a bit of that mentality can stay then thats a good thing, it could be something good out of a bad rule that cant be kept.

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 223 - 11/01/2019 17:09:49    2156631

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I'm withConvert 1. Keep the handpass rule for the league. Give it a chance, anything to improve football becoming a boring defensive game.
GPA take a hike.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 947 - 11/01/2019 18:12:10    2156640

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YES.

Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 273 - 11/01/2019 18:36:38    2156648

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Yeah the players can sod off

lol"
I wouldn't laugh out to loud if I were you. The players had a voice in this, through the GPA they had David Collins an ex Galway hurler & now President of the GPA, on the committee that drew up these recommendations. So players had their voice there, so they can't be complaining. The same arguments came from players & managers when the Sin Bin idea was trialled very successfully a few years ago, but they bitched about it & a campaign by leading managers at the time campaigned in a very coordinated way as we see now, to get rid of it. What replaced the successfully trialled Sin Bin, the Black Card. The Black Card that the very same managers & players bitch about now & rightly so as it was a pathetic substitute for the Sin Bin. The GAA will bend the knee on this as the current leadership are very poor & managers & players will have their way.

Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 273 - 11/01/2019 18:59:38    2156652

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It's obvious any person who has said yes to keeping the hand pass rule, hasn't attended a pre season game. From being at all Monaghan's games. It indeed highly frustrating, has led to countless goal scoring changes being penalised. Antrim scored a goal but was disallowed for the last hand pass.

In both games against Mary's and Armagh, with Monaghan needing a single score to either win or draw the game. They were faced with a mass defence of 14 players. Which led to Monaghan running out of time as it was simply impossible to penetrate with only 3 hand passes.

The problem is the doctor has prescribed the wrong medicine for the illness.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1765 - 12/01/2019 09:41:11    2156695

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