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Seamus Darby Goal - Poor Goalkeeping?

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Replying To perfect10:  "having watched players of the faithful recently,and watched the goal a few times since,i think it was very poor goalkeeping.
it wasnt a rasper of a shot by any means.
while it is undoubtedly the most famous goal in gaa history,if cluxton let it in next year to deny dublin 5-in-a-row,i would say dublin supporters would consider it very poor keeping.
and that is by no means to po-poo on the goal,nobody has ever scored one like it since one of the kildare goals in 1919......"
I thought u were crazy but i looked at it just now and u might be correct. The keepers starting position was close to his right hand post. The ball actually didn't loop that high at all and went in just past the middle of the goal. I have no issue with the keeper being a little off his line as the have to be but his starting position was too way far to the right
https://youtu.be/jOiJD67n8u4

Obviously there was a foul in there as well. Should the back have tried to win it out in front....... might be a bit unfair to criticise him because it would have been a clean catch but for the push.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 857 - 10/01/2019 13:47:02    2156390

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Be a bit unfair to say poor goalkeeping, but looking at the video above was Charlie Nelligan a small man or was the goal a different size back then?

I think as people said above, it is a combination of factors. Poor goalkeeping, tactics, etc although I wasn't even born myself!

We have a long way to go to beat your record and I'm putting no money down.
realdub (Dublin)


Its not just Kerry's record... ;)"
Yes of course, I apologise to the yellow bellies :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7238 - 10/01/2019 14:25:32    2156399

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It's Dublin's record now

Took many more games for Dublin to complete 4 in a row.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18962 - 10/01/2019 16:30:41    2156411

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Facts should be green thumbed :D

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18962 - 10/01/2019 17:11:39    2156422

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Facts should be green thumbed :D"
There you go, pal.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2019 - 10/01/2019 19:07:13    2156452

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Replying To Byanthon:  "Kerry were 0-17 to 0-13 going into the last ten minutes and the game looked over. A couple of soft frees kept Offaly in it but Kerry had only themselves to blame that they did not close out the win. The last 10 minutes in 2011 were similar if not as dramatic as Kerry looked to be on the way to a win with a 4 point lead."
I'd agree with your take on the impact of 2011 win for Dublin. It lifted a monkey off their backs and they've had Kerry's number since.
Off-topic I know, but the general commentary on that final is that Kerry dominated the match and threw it away in the last 10 mins.
However, Dublin were actually the better team majority of that game. They were on top for most of the 1st half and should have been further ahead at half-time.
They started the 2nd half well too. Kerry dominated the 3rd quarter, before the famous late rally. It's the nature of the comeback that may make it seem like a smash and grab, but across the game as a whole, I thought the Dubs deserved it.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 403 - 11/01/2019 00:01:10    2156511

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Replying To realdub:  "
Replying To StoreysTash:  "Be a bit unfair to say poor goalkeeping, but looking at the video above was Charlie Nelligan a small man or was the goal a different size back then?

I think as people said above, it is a combination of factors. Poor goalkeeping, tactics, etc although I wasn't even born myself!

We have a long way to go to beat your record and I'm putting no money down.
realdub (Dublin)


Its not just Kerry's record... ;)"
Yes of course, I apologise to the yellow bellies :D"
Its also Dublin's record to realdub! :)

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 233 - 11/01/2019 09:09:01    2156524

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "
Replying To realdub:  "[quote=StoreysTash:  "Be a bit unfair to say poor goalkeeping, but looking at the video above was Charlie Nelligan a small man or was the goal a different size back then?

I think as people said above, it is a combination of factors. Poor goalkeeping, tactics, etc although I wasn't even born myself!

We have a long way to go to beat your record and I'm putting no money down.
realdub (Dublin)


Its not just Kerry's record... ;)"
Yes of course, I apologise to the yellow bellies :D"
Its also Dublin's record to realdub! :)"]Took Dublin 28 games though :)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18962 - 11/01/2019 09:57:48    2156539

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Push in the back on defender led to the goal. Should have been a free out.
...The whole country bar Kerry welcomed the Offaly win
Colm O' Neill scored a goal for Cork in a similar situation against Donegal in 2012 after he pushed Eamon McGee.
Sometimes...little fouls pay off.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 348 - 14/01/2019 13:29:15    2157052

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Replying To Rockies:  "Push in the back on defender led to the goal. Should have been a free out.
...The whole country bar Kerry welcomed the Offaly win
Colm O' Neill scored a goal for Cork in a similar situation against Donegal in 2012 after he pushed Eamon McGee.
Sometimes...little fouls pay off."
All irrelevant now. Goal allowed, Offaly won. End of story.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1004 - 14/01/2019 16:30:25    2157078

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The Gooche's first goal in the All Ireland final against Mayo was also a push in the back and should have been a free out. The Offaly goal was a push in the back otherwise the Kerry player would have got the ball - the keeper would have seen it that way so I would put no blame on him.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1951 - 14/01/2019 16:55:10    2157082

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Replying To perfect10:  "having watched players of the faithful recently,and watched the goal a few times since,i think it was very poor goalkeeping.
it wasnt a rasper of a shot by any means.
while it is undoubtedly the most famous goal in gaa history,if cluxton let it in next year to deny dublin 5-in-a-row,i would say dublin supporters would consider it very poor keeping.
and that is by no means to po-poo on the goal,nobody has ever scored one like it since one of the kildare goals in 1919......"
I tried finding the 1919 championship on the RTE Player but no go. Maybe TG4 covered it...

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 500 - 18/01/2019 12:30:36    2157995

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