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The GAA Are Intent On Killing Off The CPA.

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Replying To witnof:  "The big issue I have with the CPA is that they complain about club fixtures. How it's all Croke Park/GAAs fault.

Then someone explain to me how 24 counties were finished Inter-County championship but still cannot run off county championships till.end September or October?

They are barking up the wrong tree"
Your point is taken, but yes the GAA, Croke Park, Central Council, Congress, County Boards must take the blame as leadership begins from the top down. Those in highly salaried positions within Croke Park, Provincial Boards & the full time staff in County Boards must be responsible as they are paid to administer & run the Association, not the club players or CPA. If you read the CPA's statement published here on HS today, you would have to take a very cynical view on why Croke Park's highest paid administrators failed to include the blank canvas motion on the Central Council agenda, failed to send it to County Board secretaries for distribution & why Central Council delegates only got it the evening before ? Ballymagash or deliberate take your pick, but if this is the standard of administration, it doesn't bode well. Your point on club championships is well made but the problem is the County Boards, who run both club & inter county, spend the vast majority of their funds & time & focus on the inter county set up. Naturally this is where all the money, power, glory & headlines are, so they put clubs on the hind tit. Most county board officials are immersed in the GAA politics & want to climb the ladder at Provincial level or get on Central Council or Committe level, so will always follow the dictat of Croke Park & not rock the boat despite what they may be mandated to do by clubs. The best example of this is county board delegates going to Congress & voting contrary to the wishes of their county board delegates & clubs. This happens every year & is the chief reason Congress voted down the motion on Transparency this year, they did not want their shenanigans exposed. Sadly progress won't happen as the whole structures are built on politics & cronyism. So, yes those at the top must be held culpable, as the power to structure change & enforce it begins with them. An example is rule changes coming in, adding to the Inter County schedule through Super 8's, Proposed Tier Two & U20 league competitions, no problem introducing what they want to introduce.

Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 261 - 29/11/2018 00:46:13    2152788

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I do find it funny that some people think congress is some bastion of democracy and that it somehow keeps the GAA in check when they vehemently refused to pass a motion which required it to be made public how delegates voted in congress votes amongst other things!! The very mantra within the GAA seems to be your either a player or a delagte, players play full stop, leave the other stuff to the lads who cant play, how many players sit in at official county board level or are even represented other than in the form of delegates who don't want people knowing how they vote for some reason????

The GPA had serious power to begin with, in reality GAA hierarchy only care for the intercounty game and only a handful of teams within that but effectively its neutered now as part of the GAA, they wont rock the boat.

Yes it took some time for the GPA to get some clout but in reality it took more than time it took the 2007 strike action to get some clout, before that they were very much looked down on by the GAA much the same as the CPA is now.

Im not sure if the CPA has the same power as the GPA did in reality but much like the GPA before the only language the GAA hierarchy recognise is the language of money, an intercounty players strike hits the GAA in the pocket, does the CPA have the power to hit the pockets of the GAA as hard? Im not so sure.

IMHO whats needed is an all inclusive players representative body or union, not separate club and intercounty players bodies and one that's sits outside of the GAA itself and im not so sure that will ever happen.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 748 - 29/11/2018 09:36:33    2152795

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Replying To gotmilk:  "I actually think the biggest danger to the CPA is the CPA. They seem to lack any sort of strategic thinking or any willingness to be flexible. In theory they should be a stronger pressure group but at the minute they are a shambles. Until they get their senior management sorted themselves I can see them struggling to have any sort of influence."
Sums them up perfectly! A farce of an organisation who have tried nothing to change the issues we continue to see...week in week out.
Great idea in principle but the wrong people involved.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2497 - 06/12/2018 10:51:33    2153478

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Replying To tearintom:  "I do find it funny that some people think congress is some bastion of democracy and that it somehow keeps the GAA in check when they vehemently refused to pass a motion which required it to be made public how delegates voted in congress votes amongst other things!! The very mantra within the GAA seems to be your either a player or a delagte, players play full stop, leave the other stuff to the lads who cant play, how many players sit in at official county board level or are even represented other than in the form of delegates who don't want people knowing how they vote for some reason????

The GPA had serious power to begin with, in reality GAA hierarchy only care for the intercounty game and only a handful of teams within that but effectively its neutered now as part of the GAA, they wont rock the boat.

Yes it took some time for the GPA to get some clout but in reality it took more than time it took the 2007 strike action to get some clout, before that they were very much looked down on by the GAA much the same as the CPA is now.

Im not sure if the CPA has the same power as the GPA did in reality but much like the GPA before the only language the GAA hierarchy recognise is the language of money, an intercounty players strike hits the GAA in the pocket, does the CPA have the power to hit the pockets of the GAA as hard? Im not so sure.

IMHO whats needed is an all inclusive players representative body or union, not separate club and intercounty players bodies and one that's sits outside of the GAA itself and im not so sure that will ever happen."
I don't think player strikes serve much good, more than a few egos getting publicity.The Cork strike alienated the leaders from the supporters. I do agree that there should be one player representative body in the GAA. Inter county players are firstly members of their local club, who play for their county.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 933 - 06/12/2018 11:07:53    2153479

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