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Replying To blackspot91:  "Just to add to this, Michael Verney picked his team of the league on off the ball today and English was on it and Verney said "you would see a corner back more comfortable on the ball and his deliveries out are phenomenal"."
Thanks for pointing that out Blackspot. Well said. While everybody is entitled to their say in the safe environs of a nickname, sometimes it helps to highlight and "rein in " the empty idle chatter.

Still amused by complaints of having to go to Croke Park k by the League Final, when every young hurler in every county shares a common dream of playing in Croke Park. Complainers should consider knitting and forget hurling and football.

Looking forward to Muster Championship and prospect of more silverware.

Looking forward to "attacking our title rather than defending it! " How sweet the sound!

Come On Ye Boys In Green!

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 952 - 05/04/2019 12:31:22    2177811

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Replying To Dealer:  "Expectations are a head wrecker. I watched the final from the upper deck in the Cusack Stand which really gives you a very good perspective on the movement and tactics in the game. For a lot of the game, I was giving out yards over mistakes, errors in the full back line and missed chances (particularly the frees which really aggravated me). It was only after I re-watched the game that I got an appreciation for all the things that went right and there were some tremendous demonstrations of skill and execution.

Its great to be a Limerick fan right now. We're top dogs and I'm enjoying the novelty of it conscious of the fact that it won't last for ever. However I also feel that this is a unique group with the opportunity to be the dominant force in hurling over the scope of the next 5 years.

Based on my observations, the players that have really stepped on the gas in this league include Nicky Quaid, Ritchie English, Diarmuid Byrnes, Gearoid Hegarty and Aaron Gillane. Hegarty to my mind, is the player of the entire league. Peter Casey, Barry Murphy, Colin Ryan and Willie O'Meara all made progress but the guy who progressed the most is O'Loughlin who's established himself as the 4th ranked half back. The biggest losers in my view are Downes and Pat Ryan who got starts but didn't convert their opportunities.

However, there is always opportunity for improvement. First step is with full back. I think that Finn is better suited to corner back and I'd expect to see Casey back at No 3. I thought that he played very well after he came on at half time. However I'm still puzzled that English hasn't gone to full back as he was the U21 2015 full back when the same 3 players comprised that line. He's also a little bit bigger than the other two.

I'm still advocating that Dowling has got to be a starting forward and should be our first choice free taker. I hate this 10 minute cameo stuff at the end of games. He's our most natural and skillful forward and I'd like to see him in a full forward line with Gillane and Casey. I'd propose to shift Flanagan to half forward to compete with Morrissey and Hayes who both had mixed leagues.

I'm looking forward to the summer."
Our full back line if English, Finn and condon wasn't porous during the league and we need to get players experience in incase of one or two injuries. At least it's an alternative option. However, while I also agree that Finn is a fabulous corner back I think he was exposed under a few dropping diagonal balls in the league. Particularly against Cork.
It's a specialised position and maybe it takes at least a full year until a player becomes completely comfortable in this position. I'm assuming Kiely felt he was a better option than English. If players hopefully get fully fit, I think Kiely will definitely go with Finn, Casey, English as the back 3.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 34 - 05/04/2019 17:00:03    2177837

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Replying To Dealer:  "Expectations are a head wrecker. I watched the final from the upper deck in the Cusack Stand which really gives you a very good perspective on the movement and tactics in the game. For a lot of the game, I was giving out yards over mistakes, errors in the full back line and missed chances (particularly the frees which really aggravated me). It was only after I re-watched the game that I got an appreciation for all the things that went right and there were some tremendous demonstrations of skill and execution.

Its great to be a Limerick fan right now. We're top dogs and I'm enjoying the novelty of it conscious of the fact that it won't last for ever. However I also feel that this is a unique group with the opportunity to be the dominant force in hurling over the scope of the next 5 years.

Based on my observations, the players that have really stepped on the gas in this league include Nicky Quaid, Ritchie English, Diarmuid Byrnes, Gearoid Hegarty and Aaron Gillane. Hegarty to my mind, is the player of the entire league. Peter Casey, Barry Murphy, Colin Ryan and Willie O'Meara all made progress but the guy who progressed the most is O'Loughlin who's established himself as the 4th ranked half back. The biggest losers in my view are Downes and Pat Ryan who got starts but didn't convert their opportunities.

However, there is always opportunity for improvement. First step is with full back. I think that Finn is better suited to corner back and I'd expect to see Casey back at No 3. I thought that he played very well after he came on at half time. However I'm still puzzled that English hasn't gone to full back as he was the U21 2015 full back when the same 3 players comprised that line. He's also a little bit bigger than the other two.

I'm still advocating that Dowling has got to be a starting forward and should be our first choice free taker. I hate this 10 minute cameo stuff at the end of games. He's our most natural and skillful forward and I'd like to see him in a full forward line with Gillane and Casey. I'd propose to shift Flanagan to half forward to compete with Morrissey and Hayes who both had mixed leagues.

I'm looking forward to the summer."
There's a few negative comments on here about Gillanes free taking which shows up peoples short memories. While he missed some easy frees last Sunday (abd come champions this won't be acceptable) he was excellent in the league v Clare, Tipp, Kilkenny, Dublin this year and never mind in the knock stages of the championship last year when the pressure was at it's highest. I think last Sunday Gillane got tired from the amount of ball he got and all the runs he was making. You say Downes and Pat Ryan blew their opportunities I would say Dowling had his chance at free taking v Cork and he had some bad misses. From my observation Flanagan at full forward has to start as when he plays there the whole forward line moves better as his movement and runs forces all our other forwards to move around and create the space we need- Dowling won't and just can't do that while Flanagan couldn't create that from the half forward line. As for the full back line I see us going back to last year's line up with Casey at full back, I think last Sunday they didn't want to upset too much in the back line by bringing on Casey and then moving Finn as well.I don't see English as a full back option as I think he's the weakest of the 3 in the air
Overall we couldn't be happier with the whole set-up at the moment and bring on the summer and try and get back to Croker where I fancy our chances against anyone

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 319 - 06/04/2019 08:21:42    2177879

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"Thanks for pointing that out Blackspot. Well said. While everybody is entitled to their say in the safe environs of a nickname, sometimes it helps to highlight and "rein in " the empty idle chatter."

Finally you have proven the monkeys with typewriters theory. Well done.
Unfortunately a lot of posters have been trying without much success to rein in your empty idle chatter about another great player in the Limerick full back line in recent seasons.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 773 - 06/04/2019 10:17:51    2177884

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Replying To updwell:  "There's a few negative comments on here about Gillanes free taking which shows up peoples short memories. While he missed some easy frees last Sunday (abd come champions this won't be acceptable) he was excellent in the league v Clare, Tipp, Kilkenny, Dublin this year and never mind in the knock stages of the championship last year when the pressure was at it's highest. I think last Sunday Gillane got tired from the amount of ball he got and all the runs he was making. You say Downes and Pat Ryan blew their opportunities I would say Dowling had his chance at free taking v Cork and he had some bad misses. From my observation Flanagan at full forward has to start as when he plays there the whole forward line moves better as his movement and runs forces all our other forwards to move around and create the space we need- Dowling won't and just can't do that while Flanagan couldn't create that from the half forward line. As for the full back line I see us going back to last year's line up with Casey at full back, I think last Sunday they didn't want to upset too much in the back line by bringing on Casey and then moving Finn as well.I don't see English as a full back option as I think he's the weakest of the 3 in the air
Overall we couldn't be happier with the whole set-up at the moment and bring on the summer and try and get back to Croker where I fancy our chances against anyone"
As mentioned earlier, Gillane looked either injured or exhausted for about 10 minutes before being replaced. Who could blame him. Over great performance and great tally on the day, 1-5?

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 952 - 06/04/2019 16:25:42    2177912

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Replying To Westfester:  ""Thanks for pointing that out Blackspot. Well said. While everybody is entitled to their say in the safe environs of a nickname, sometimes it helps to highlight and "rein in " the empty idle chatter."

Finally you have proven the monkeys with typewriters theory. Well done.
Unfortunately a lot of posters have been trying without much success to rein in your empty idle chatter about another great player in the Limerick full back line in recent seasons."
Thanks very much! Different time different, different manager , different pressure for places on the team forcing players to "shape up" (literally) and lose extra baggage or ship out. No time for wallowing in the mud. BTW typewriters are gone the ay of the pony and trap and the "scythe".

Get on the Limerick 2019 bandwagon. Looking forward to "attacking" Munster championship!!

Come On Ye Boys Boys in Green!

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 952 - 06/04/2019 16:39:47    2177914

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Have to say it was sad to hear about Richie English,s father.
one of the greatest out and out defenders I ever saw playing for Limerick and could play in any era and to give the performances he has this year says a lot about him and his family

Limdreamer (Limerick) - Posts: 63 - 06/04/2019 18:12:48    2177921

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "As mentioned earlier, Gillane looked either injured or exhausted for about 10 minutes before being replaced. Who could blame him. Over great performance and great tally on the day, 1-5?"
Absolutely, his movement was fantastic and he was always making himself available to receive the ball time and time again, He was out on his feet before he came off. When Flanagan plays it eases the workload on him as he a great engine and appetite for work and serious movement also. His superior fitness, stamina and strength is the reason i guess most of us think he will be a started alongside Gillane come championship leaving Mulcahy and Casey to battle it out for the remaining inside forward position (reluctant to say corner forward as not sure if that positions exists anymore :)).

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 141 - 09/04/2019 09:07:56    2178149

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Replying To Fitzy01:  "Absolutely, his movement was fantastic and he was always making himself available to receive the ball time and time again, He was out on his feet before he came off. When Flanagan plays it eases the workload on him as he a great engine and appetite for work and serious movement also. His superior fitness, stamina and strength is the reason i guess most of us think he will be a started alongside Gillane come championship leaving Mulcahy and Casey to battle it out for the remaining inside forward position (reluctant to say corner forward as not sure if that positions exists anymore :))."
i think Gillane was exhausted as every ball going into the full forward linein the second half seemed to be aimed for him and what a shift he put in . i remember Hegarty playing a diagonal ball perfectly into his hand late in the second half and although Gillane had three defenders around him he still caught the ball , turned and put it over the bar . The pass was perfect from Hego and Gillanes skill was unreal , it was almost like a point scored on the training ground it looked so easy .
i couldnt understand why they didnt try to put the ball into the big open spaces on the wings a bit more and let Mulcahy use his pace to get out there as he is a flyer and this might have given Gillane a break every now and then . As i said before i thought the subs could have come on earlier as peter casey was limping aswell and at that stage had contributed greatly to the victory and luckily at the moment we have plenty backup on the Bench unlike previous years so in my humble opinion get them on and give them game time in croker but Kiely knows better so leave him at it . i hope now when the lads come back they can carry on where they left off and drive on again as this is a super limerick team , panel and management and they are capable of being very successful for many a year to come . A hurling career is over before you know it so them lads have to win as much as possible while they are involved ...

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 108 - 09/04/2019 10:49:03    2178173

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Replying To WhipOnTheBall:  "i think Gillane was exhausted as every ball going into the full forward linein the second half seemed to be aimed for him and what a shift he put in . i remember Hegarty playing a diagonal ball perfectly into his hand late in the second half and although Gillane had three defenders around him he still caught the ball , turned and put it over the bar . The pass was perfect from Hego and Gillanes skill was unreal , it was almost like a point scored on the training ground it looked so easy .
i couldnt understand why they didnt try to put the ball into the big open spaces on the wings a bit more and let Mulcahy use his pace to get out there as he is a flyer and this might have given Gillane a break every now and then . As i said before i thought the subs could have come on earlier as peter casey was limping aswell and at that stage had contributed greatly to the victory and luckily at the moment we have plenty backup on the Bench unlike previous years so in my humble opinion get them on and give them game time in croker but Kiely knows better so leave him at it . i hope now when the lads come back they can carry on where they left off and drive on again as this is a super limerick team , panel and management and they are capable of being very successful for many a year to come . A hurling career is over before you know it so them lads have to win as much as possible while they are involved ..."
Yeah, good point they don't seem to hit Mulcahy as much with the long diagonals to space. He seems to pick up the loose ball or receive possession from a shorter pass in the main.

Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 141 - 10/04/2019 11:15:35    2178339

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As the League is over a fantastic league all in all, what is the update on the Panel?
I am sure there have been some players released as the championship panel gets picked.
There has been additional youngsters added so I am sure players that have been tried have been released.
It is so competitive now which is great but tough on players. Any ideas on this?

EastStar (Limerick) - Posts: 65 - 12/04/2019 12:01:49    2178556

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Replying To EastStar:  "As the League is over a fantastic league all in all, what is the update on the Panel?
I am sure there have been some players released as the championship panel gets picked.
There has been additional youngsters added so I am sure players that have been tried have been released.
It is so competitive now which is great but tough on players. Any ideas on this?"
What additional youngsters have been added?

bren222 (Limerick) - Posts: 101 - 12/04/2019 12:34:36    2178564

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Replying To bren222:  "What additional youngsters have been added?"
The following guys have been new this year will they be kept on? If so who makes way?
Mike O Brien
Conor Boylan
Aaron Costello
Ronan Connolly
J Power

EastStar (Limerick) - Posts: 65 - 12/04/2019 14:34:27    2178584

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Replying To EastStar:  "The following guys have been new this year will they be kept on? If so who makes way?
Mike O Brien
Conor Boylan
Aaron Costello
Ronan Connolly
J Power"
Conor Boylan was there from the start of the season as were most of the others. I'm a firm believer in having an open door for the squad.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 951 - 13/04/2019 11:02:53    2178656

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Conor Boylan was there from the start of the season as were most of the others. I'm a firm believer in having an open door for the squad."
I believe that D Reidy is off the squad. I don't know who else is in or out.

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 648 - 13/04/2019 14:50:34    2178670

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Only three weeks to go to the start of the Championship. Im sure my predictions will he turned upside down but I'm going to give it a shot anyway.

Waterford/Clare. I'm going with Clare. I was very disappointed with Waterford in the league final. I know Walsh Park might have a big say in things but I think Clare should be further ahead.

Cork/Tipp - Cork. Cork's speed and Tipps league foes should be enough to see Cork through. Cork were shadow boxing in the same league fixture.

Tipp/Waterford - Tipp. Mainly because of home venue. Again I think it will go down to the wire. Will put Waterford on a serious back foot.

Limerick/Cork - Limerick. Although I feel this game will be a humdinger at a full Gaelic Grounds. If Cork beat Tipp they will have their tails up. If Tipp win in P Ui C then it will be a must win game for Cork. Even though i think Limerick will win I'm nervous about this one. All the pressure will be on Limerick. Will be interesting to see how Tony Og Regan prepares them mentally for this one.

Waterford/Limerick - Waterford. I just think Limerick will have too much in the tank as in Croker a few weeks ago.

Clare/Tipp - Clare. What a battle this will be in the Park. Will of course depend on the state of affairs at the time, but getting a win in Cusack Park is next to impossible at the moment. The Banner have made it their fortress.

Cork/Waterford - Cork. After two weeks off and the Home advantage I cant see any other result.

Limerick/Clare - reluctantly Limerick. Clare won't mind coming to Limerick. The bite in the leaguebclash in Cusack Park will be back. Limerick will have to learn to deal with Clare's pulling and dragging tactics and not get drawn into it. Another referee could easily have sent off a few of our lads for retaliation that day. Being the only team to beat Limerick in last years Championship and this years league meeting, Clare will fancy their chances. However, I'm hoping JK & Co will have learned a lot from last years defeat and this will bring the green and white across the line.

Clare/Cork - Cork. The fortress will come down. This will be Clare's third game in as many weeks. It's unfair to ask amateurs to do this. However, Clare's panel isn't anywhere near strong enough to withstand it.

Tipp/Limerick - Draw. Limericks third in a row away from home will be too much of an ask. Hopefully we will have already qualified. Tipps earlier performances will also determine. If Tipp still have a chance to qualify then I would fancy them to take the spoils.

I'm sure I'll get a good few surprises along the way but that's my best guess for now. Hopefully, all counties have come through the club games without any more injuries. I don't think there was Championship played in Clare. Just Clare Cup.

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 123 - 21/04/2019 23:43:13    2179790

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Replying To Seeking_silver:  "Only three weeks to go to the start of the Championship. Im sure my predictions will he turned upside down but I'm going to give it a shot anyway.

Waterford/Clare. I'm going with Clare. I was very disappointed with Waterford in the league final. I know Walsh Park might have a big say in things but I think Clare should be further ahead.

Cork/Tipp - Cork. Cork's speed and Tipps league foes should be enough to see Cork through. Cork were shadow boxing in the same league fixture.

Tipp/Waterford - Tipp. Mainly because of home venue. Again I think it will go down to the wire. Will put Waterford on a serious back foot.

Limerick/Cork - Limerick. Although I feel this game will be a humdinger at a full Gaelic Grounds. If Cork beat Tipp they will have their tails up. If Tipp win in P Ui C then it will be a must win game for Cork. Even though i think Limerick will win I'm nervous about this one. All the pressure will be on Limerick. Will be interesting to see how Tony Og Regan prepares them mentally for this one.

Waterford/Limerick - Waterford. I just think Limerick will have too much in the tank as in Croker a few weeks ago.

Clare/Tipp - Clare. What a battle this will be in the Park. Will of course depend on the state of affairs at the time, but getting a win in Cusack Park is next to impossible at the moment. The Banner have made it their fortress.

Cork/Waterford - Cork. After two weeks off and the Home advantage I cant see any other result.

Limerick/Clare - reluctantly Limerick. Clare won't mind coming to Limerick. The bite in the leaguebclash in Cusack Park will be back. Limerick will have to learn to deal with Clare's pulling and dragging tactics and not get drawn into it. Another referee could easily have sent off a few of our lads for retaliation that day. Being the only team to beat Limerick in last years Championship and this years league meeting, Clare will fancy their chances. However, I'm hoping JK & Co will have learned a lot from last years defeat and this will bring the green and white across the line.

Clare/Cork - Cork. The fortress will come down. This will be Clare's third game in as many weeks. It's unfair to ask amateurs to do this. However, Clare's panel isn't anywhere near strong enough to withstand it.

Tipp/Limerick - Draw. Limericks third in a row away from home will be too much of an ask. Hopefully we will have already qualified. Tipps earlier performances will also determine. If Tipp still have a chance to qualify then I would fancy them to take the spoils.

I'm sure I'll get a good few surprises along the way but that's my best guess for now. Hopefully, all counties have come through the club games without any more injuries. I don't think there was Championship played in Clare. Just Clare Cup."
And how will the munster final go? :D

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 876 - 22/04/2019 03:59:04    2179794

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Replying To blackspot91:  "And how will the munster final go? :D"
Blackspot. Based on my earlier post it will be limerick/Cork Munster Final. Of course I'll have to say Limerick here. However, I think it would be on in P Ui C so a very difficult one for us. These Limerick lads want a Munster medal whereas Cork only have their eye on one prize this year. So yes I'm going to say Limerick for Munster. What do you think yourself Blackspot

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 123 - 22/04/2019 11:31:14    2179807

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Replying To Seeking_silver:  "Blackspot. Based on my earlier post it will be limerick/Cork Munster Final. Of course I'll have to say Limerick here. However, I think it would be on in P Ui C so a very difficult one for us. These Limerick lads want a Munster medal whereas Cork only have their eye on one prize this year. So yes I'm going to say Limerick for Munster. What do you think yourself Blackspot"
If it was to be Cork/Limerick Final why should itl be played in PuC? When The two sides last played in a Final (2014) it was played in Cork

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1824 - 22/04/2019 22:04:48    2179847

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