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and alot think they aren't good enough myself included and predicting that isn't disrespectful it's just an honest assessment. Disrespect doesn't come into it
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 19/09/2018 21:07:52 2142798 Link 2 |
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Fair point on O'Connor. i genuinely couldnt think of anyone. Managers who are brought back will be judged on the standards they provided before. I think it might be a tough ask for Horan. Especially given the age of several key players he is used to managing in their prime.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/09/2018 21:12:13 2142799 Link 0 |
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Only teams? I think mayo are as far away as ever to be fair. Beat by a Kildare team who were relegated on zero points and destroyed in super 8's. And beat by Galway again. Ageing team. Stayed up by the skin of their teeth. I think the pecking order is Dublin, Tyrone, Kerry, Galway, Monaghan, mayo. I think mayo need to take a step back and try to win a Connaught title before thinking of an all Ireland. If Horan comes in they have a chance. Great manager. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 19/09/2018 21:13:03 2142801 Link 2 |
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Turns out 2...
Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 19/09/2018 21:22:22 2142803 Link 0 |
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Agree totally. If Horan is appointed it's for a rebuilding job. He has a core group there he can build around, two O Connors, Harrison, Keegan, Durkin, McLoughlin, Aido and Doc. There are half a dozen on the development panel, mostly from the 2016 u21 team, who will probably be brought through along with the best of this years u20 team. It will take time but I don't think there is any great pressure on Horan. Aim to be competitive in Connacht next year and make the super eights to bring on the young lads. Thoughts of challenging Dublin are a long way down the line as we can't even beat Galway at the moment. Not sure if Horan will get the job though as we have been known to f*** things up over the years. I think if he has learned from his past mistakes, and he has made plenty, he will have us challenging again in the next couple of years! We might stop the Dubs bid for seven in a row in 2021.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 19/09/2018 21:36:22 2142804 Link 3 |
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Don't make this about you , we've read your post nobody was referring to you , think we all know were you stand
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 19/09/2018 21:54:19 2142807 Link 3 |
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Good to see someone close to the science make a realistic assessment. There are Dubs on here clutching to straws that Mayo will seriously challenge them to make the 5 in a row feel like a bigger achievement than it actually will be. Mayo are at least 2 years off seriously challenging for Sam.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 19/09/2018 23:10:33 2142815 Link 1 |
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Micko with Kildare???
OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 19/09/2018 23:17:27 2142817 Link 0 |
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Yes I think Mayo are probably past their best with the current group. But that doesn't mean if they are a bit fresher next year they can't get back to a final. This year was a poor year, and picking out the Kildare game and writing Mayo off for the next few years is daft. Tyrone got to a final via a soft route and that can't be argued. Securing the semi spot against an inexperienced Donegal team and then playing Monaghan in a semi final, with Mayo and Kerry already knocked out, it was a strange year. By the way Tyrone should have been knocked out against Meath and probably would have been only for help from the referee. Tyrone getting to the final shows how weak the championship was this year. The final was largely a training session so I wouldn't have Tyrone as the best placed team to challenge Dublin. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7891 - 20/09/2018 04:01:53 2142820 Link 4 |
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I think you're a little off on this one. Mayo, like previous years, were building to peak in August and got caught (nearly happened the past two years as well). You seem quick to forget that Tyrone were very fortunate to get away from Navan in the first round of the qualifiers. But really there is no point in comparing the Tyrone in Navan with the Tyrone that went up to Donegal in the final round of the Super 8. Tyrone were hitting their stride then and playing at their optimum. In my view, Mayo at their peak and with everyone available are only weaker than Dublin and would fancy their chances against anyone else in big game in Croke Park. Unstoppable123 (UK) - Posts: 14 - 20/09/2018 10:20:09 2142838 Link 1 |
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Many interested. Does 2 count as many ? Maybe in your part of the universe. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 20/09/2018 11:04:15 2142847 Link 0 |
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I'm not saying Mayo will win Sam but let me put it to you honestly in a one off game with all things being equal injuries etc I'd take playing Galway any day over Mayo, they've allways been prepared to have a go , unlike some
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 20/09/2018 11:05:47 2142848 Link 6 |
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Yeah , you seem well informed alright. Heaps of them just queuing up there alright. God above, what are you going to come out with next? Mayo for Sam is it ? catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 20/09/2018 11:07:42 2142849 Link 0 |
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A James Horan revived Mayo might be just the team to put an end to Dublin's run. Despite what you say Dublin haven't looked confident against Mayo in the championship. Mayo beat themselves more than anything Dublin did. seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 20/09/2018 13:19:28 2142891 Link 1 |
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2 were nominated, i'm sure there were plenty of other interested parties. Of course people would want the Mayo job, its still one of the top 5 jobs in football so to say no one was interested is just silly. Realistically, potential managers dropped off the minute they realised the strong chance of Horan getting the job. Unstoppable123 (UK) - Posts: 14 - 20/09/2018 13:43:52 2142901 Link 1 |
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You're clearly anti-Mayo. Suppose there's no one interested in the Kerry job either since only Peter Keane is being mentioned?
Unstoppable123 (UK) - Posts: 14 - 20/09/2018 14:00:21 2142906 Link 3 |
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I wouldn't say anti Mayo, no but I'll say this, Kerry will win the All Ireland long before Mayo no matter who is managing them.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 20/09/2018 14:47:51 2142918 Link 0 |
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Dublin didn't look confident and it was Mayo who beat themselves you say, I say not. Both Dublin and Mayo were equally confident. Mayo scored the most that a beaten finalist has ever scored last year, I guess that means Dublin scored more, just about. So based on that, Dublin must have done something in the match. Mayo were damn unlucky not to have beaten us at least once in those great games, and that's all it came down to really. That and the difference between Cillian O'Connor and Dean Rock. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 20/09/2018 15:02:54 2142922 Link 4 |
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catch22 - what county do you hail from? yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 20/09/2018 15:07:47 2142923 Link 3 |
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Timbuktu, what the blasted difference does that make ?
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 20/09/2018 15:48:00 2142932 Link 0 |