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I see Carlow have received their first All Star football nomination in 24 years after Paul Broderick was picked in the 45 man list revealed this morning. Broderick has been one of the outstanding forwards in the country for a couple of years now and well done to him. I recall Carlow manager Turlough O'Brien looking for a change to the All Stars selection process last year and saying it was an injustice that Broderick or Sean Murphy weren't nominated and the awards go to the counties who reach the latter stages of the championship. I don't begrudge Broderick his nomination but his inclusion is like a token gesture to Carlow after the snub in 2017. Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/09/2018 10:59:42 2141185 Link
Always going to happen and necessary for marketing the game and rewarding players from small counties. If the worthy players were to get the nominations, then we would have a situation where Dublin would have 13 out of 15 with the likes of Clifford and possibly McManus making up the other 2. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 12/09/2018 11:05:21 2141187 Link
I honestly hope Dublin get as few as possible, its all a bit of a pony show. Interesting that Dublin sweep the board for player of the year, ha ha id say if there was one from another county they would get the lions share of the vote as is the boredom with Dublin winning. The YPOY looks a bit of fun, Howard, Clifford and McKernan. That is a tough one to call. I think Clifford will swing it on politics as a Dub will be player of the year. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/09/2018 11:14:43 2141189 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "Always going to happen and necessary for marketing the game and rewarding players from small counties. If the worthy players were to get the nominations, then we would have a situation where Dublin would have 13 out of 15 with the likes of Clifford and possibly McManus making up the other 2." It makes a mockery of the whole thing. Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/09/2018 11:22:31 2141190 Link
Niall Sludden is the only Tyrone forward to receive a nomination. Off the top of my head Cathal McShane and Connor McAliskey deserve to be there over Paul Broderick. As well Peter Harte is nominated in defence despite him playing most of his championship football in the forwards. Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/09/2018 11:28:20 2141191 Link
Replying To Concerned_Supp: "I see Carlow have received their first All Star football nomination in 24 years after Paul Broderick was picked in the 45 man list revealed this morning. Broderick has been one of the outstanding forwards in the country for a couple of years now and well done to him. I recall Carlow manager Turlough O'Brien looking for a change to the All Stars selection process last year and saying it was an injustice that Broderick or Sean Murphy weren't nominated and the awards go to the counties who reach the latter stages of the championship. I don't begrudge Broderick his nomination but his inclusion is like a token gesture to Carlow after the snub in 2017." I don't understand your point. Are you complaining about the 2017 nominations? Did Broderick and the Laois keeper not deserve their nomination this year? I thought they did from the bit i saw of them. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 12/09/2018 11:59:31 2141200 Link
Replying To Concerned_Supp: "I see Carlow have received their first All Star football nomination in 24 years after Paul Broderick was picked in the 45 man list revealed this morning. Broderick has been one of the outstanding forwards in the country for a couple of years now and well done to him. I recall Carlow manager Turlough O'Brien looking for a change to the All Stars selection process last year and saying it was an injustice that Broderick or Sean Murphy weren't nominated and the awards go to the counties who reach the latter stages of the championship. I don't begrudge Broderick his nomination but his inclusion is like a token gesture to Carlow after the snub in 2017." You obviously weren't at the Louth and Kildare matches where Broderick was brilliant. Paul Broderick got nominated for an All star as he was one of the best forwards this year. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 12/09/2018 12:28:56 2141205 Link
can you not just let a player from a smaller county who has no realistic chance of being on tv in september have his day in the sun?and then people ask why players in weaker counties dont bother. well done paul broderick. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 12/09/2018 12:30:02 2141206 Link
Replying To Mayonman: "I don't understand your point. Are you complaining about the 2017 nominations? Did Broderick and the Laois keeper not deserve their nomination this year? I thought they did from the bit i saw of them." The point I'm making is that his nomination is like a token gesture to Carlow after the snub in 2017. I think he deserved his All Star nomination last year more so than this year. He had brilliant games against Louth and Kildare in Leinster that got him player of the month for May. Maybe that's enough to get an All Star nomination these days? I never mentioned Brody from Laois but he deserves to be there. Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/09/2018 13:03:10 2141216 Link
Replying To Concerned_Supp: "The point I'm making is that his nomination is like a token gesture to Carlow after the snub in 2017. I think he deserved his All Star nomination last year more so than this year. He had brilliant games against Louth and Kildare in Leinster that got him player of the month for May. Maybe that's enough to get an All Star nomination these days? I never mentioned Brody from Laois but he deserves to be there." If you werent at the Louth or Kildare matches, how would you know how good he was. Or should it just be the top counties that get nominations. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 12/09/2018 13:41:08 2141227 Link
Replying To carlovia: "If you werent at the Louth or Kildare matches, how would you know how good he was. Or should it just be the top counties that get nominations." I took your word. Look I believe Broderick got nominated to make up for the fact that Carlow were omitted last year. There would've been more uproar from Turlough O'Brien if his team missed out again. Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/09/2018 14:01:40 2141230 Link
Replying To Concerned_Supp: "I took your word. Look I believe Broderick got nominated to make up for the fact that Carlow were omitted last year. There would've been more uproar from Turlough O'Brien if his team missed out again." So you haven't seen him play this year but you start a thread that its a token nomination ? Nice begrudgery. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 12/09/2018 14:18:45 2141236 Link
Replying To Concerned_Supp: "It makes a mockery of the whole thing." Kinda agree. But the Dublin players won't care too much if they miss out. McCaffrey was happy enough to take a year out and knowingly miss a huge chance at winning another all Ireland, which they did. If their players are willing to do this, then the all stars is the hapenny place in comparison. Perhaps scrap the all stars so? The last genuinely interesting year of the all stars was 2014 when there were so many closely matched teams in the competition. There was a very even spread of players across the board. David Clifford is a shoe in for ypoty as he was absolutely fantastic and scored a crucial goal in a knock out scenario match v Monaghan. No politics involved here at all if he gets it, he will deserve it by a mile. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 12/09/2018 14:37:12 2141239 Link
Replying To carlovia: "So you haven't seen him play this year but you start a thread that its a token nomination ? Nice begrudgery." I actually seen him play at the Leinster semi finals. Nearly forgot. And he done well considering he was Carlow's only forward that day. Kicked some nice points from frees and that. Whether I seen Broderick play or not, I'm still entitled to my opinion and I'm not begrudging him. Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/09/2018 15:11:06 2141253 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "Kinda agree. But the Dublin players won't care too much if they miss out. McCaffrey was happy enough to take a year out and knowingly miss a huge chance at winning another all Ireland, which they did. If their players are willing to do this, then the all stars is the hapenny place in comparison. Perhaps scrap the all stars so? The last genuinely interesting year of the all stars was 2014 when there were so many closely matched teams in the competition. There was a very even spread of players across the board. David Clifford is a shoe in for ypoty as he was absolutely fantastic and scored a crucial goal in a knock out scenario match v Monaghan. No politics involved here at all if he gets it, he will deserve it by a mile." No, the Dublin players won't care one iota. Perhaps you're right the All Stars is a PR exercise and rewards players from small counties. David Clifford should get YPOTY but you just wouldn't know with the All Stars. I wouldnt be surprised if they turned around and gave it to the Tyrone lad! Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 12/09/2018 15:23:49 2141257 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "I honestly hope Dublin get as few as possible, its all a bit of a pony show. Interesting that Dublin sweep the board for player of the year, ha ha id say if there was one from another county they would get the lions share of the vote as is the boredom with Dublin winning. The YPOY looks a bit of fun, Howard, Clifford and McKernan. That is a tough one to call. I think Clifford will swing it on politics as a Dub will be player of the year." If Clifford wins it it'l be nothing to do with politics it'l be because he's the best young player in the country at the moment, we were diabolical this and only for Clifford it would have been a total wipeout. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/09/2018 22:32:54 2141322 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "If Clifford wins it it'l be nothing to do with politics it'l be because he's the best young player in the country at the moment, we were diabolical this and only for Clifford it would have been a total wipeout." Clifford is an amazing footballer but Brian Howard has to get Young player of the year. Outstanding all year. Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 13/09/2018 08:54:04 2141340 Link
The minor team of the year must be a different format for selection altogether..... young Dublin footballer made it and they didn't even get to Leinster semi final let alone the business end of the championship..... wouldn't happen in a million years at senior level southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 888 - 13/09/2018 08:58:30 2141341 Link
In fairness, if you only saw him play in 1 game, I don't think you're in a position to say whether he deserves a nomination or not. iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 13/09/2018 09:17:40 2141345 Link
Clifford is unbelievable, as is Howard. You cant compare them to each other as they are both very different players. So for me, you have to measure: their ability 10/10 for both, their influence within their teams 10/10 for both, their success this year 10/10 Howard - 5/10 Clifford. Howard was hugely influential in Dublin's success this year and has an All-Ireland in his pocket. Where I think Clifford stands out and perhaps might swing the votes in his favor is how he dealt with the expectation and pressure this year. Howard was somewhat under the radar where as Clifford was a superstar before stepping into the senior team. How he dealt with that and performed to the standard that was expected of him was very impressive. Man&Ball (Dublin) - Posts: 12 - 13/09/2018 10:17:20 2141353 Link