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Mc Stay Resigns!

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I saw that also, 25-28 of the panel living in Dublin. Ive heard there could be as many as 200 training sessions a year

It just makes no sense to me, especially given the financial context of Roscommon last year.

Is it not logical to have training in Dublin, Kildare or Meath rather then incurring that cost, also in terms of player welfare etc.

Im really surprised about that payment in particular, particularly in the context McStay is talking about not having enough finance to run the team.

Is this a regular thing around the country that Taxi's are organised for County players across country to attend training and its lumped under transport costs?"
i undertand the point you are making but McStay when he took over made the point that as a Roscommon team the team should train within Roscommon and i kinda agree with him. Living on the Roscommon side of Athlone i would be fairly familar with Athlone Town FC and years ago with a large Dublin based panel they lost all the local core and support because lads were playing with their local team but yet had to travel over an hour for training.You could have lads based within Roscommon then who just wouldnt be able to get up to Dublin twice a week and that would be madness a Roscommon man based in Roscommon not in a position to play because the team are basically based an hour and a bit up the road.
Under John Evans Roscommon used to train in St Lomans gaa grounds in Mullingar but even then we were renting a training ground, Still had to taxi lads from Dublin and a few in Galway. The expenses for the lads living in Roscommon who had to leave their county to train. Food costs were more expensive because it was either pay a local lad who was cheaper more to travel away or pay a crowd where you were training who were more expensive than the local lad who was doing it at a discount.
If we were to move training to Dublin it would be unfair i think on the local based players having to travel to Dublin to train.

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 07/09/2018 10:24:20    2140061

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "i undertand the point you are making but McStay when he took over made the point that as a Roscommon team the team should train within Roscommon and i kinda agree with him. Living on the Roscommon side of Athlone i would be fairly familar with Athlone Town FC and years ago with a large Dublin based panel they lost all the local core and support because lads were playing with their local team but yet had to travel over an hour for training.You could have lads based within Roscommon then who just wouldnt be able to get up to Dublin twice a week and that would be madness a Roscommon man based in Roscommon not in a position to play because the team are basically based an hour and a bit up the road.
Under John Evans Roscommon used to train in St Lomans gaa grounds in Mullingar but even then we were renting a training ground, Still had to taxi lads from Dublin and a few in Galway. The expenses for the lads living in Roscommon who had to leave their county to train. Food costs were more expensive because it was either pay a local lad who was cheaper more to travel away or pay a crowd where you were training who were more expensive than the local lad who was doing it at a discount.
If we were to move training to Dublin it would be unfair i think on the local based players having to travel to Dublin to train."
I take that wholly on board mate and i think its one of those ultimate pro/con situations no matter what you do. The cost of it just seems crazy, i had sympathy for them last year when the GAA wouldn't underwrite the 500k over spend, but if your paying a 1000 in taxi cost per training session, it just seems mad and the logical thing to have a cost benefit analysis.

Be probably cheaper to buy the whole panel cars over five year period. i also acknowledge as a Dub we dont this have issue, so i know we are in a privileged position and im definitely not not sympathizing with this delicate issue, just seems like a massive outgoing, given the context and its impact and McStays comments, not to be thought about.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 07/09/2018 12:41:21    2140106

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Look ye got abuse at the time partly because ye courted it unfortunately. Our hurling squad back in 2015 did something siimilar with the heave against Anthony Cunningham but luckily for us the new manager came in and weeded out some of the guys who led the heave and snuck an all ireland so vindication followed and abuse levels levelled off. If SR got an all ireland our Dub friends would not be as accommodating with their 'love in' for ye. The only reason people love Mayo now as opposed to a few years ago when ye were getting loads of abuse is because ye are not seen as a threat to the same extent. It is so patronising and even Brolly loves ye after being on your back for years. Mind you he was in the McGuinness camp back in 2012 to 2014 but now blames Jimmy for the demise of football so a poor example i admit.
On McStay he did his best and was unfortunate with player injured/unavailable at various periods in his tenure"
Love in with mayo don't make me laugh. We are hated probably only second to Dublin...don't care though. U still think we are a bigger threat to Fublin than most teams IF we can get a good management team in place.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11229 - 07/09/2018 13:42:16    2140122

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Love in with mayo don't make me laugh. We are hated probably only second to Dublin...don't care though. U still think we are a bigger threat to Fublin than most teams IF we can get a good management team in place."
Were the 2nd most hated team maybe. In recent times quite clear the adulation for Mayo given the 'crisis' football apparently is in. If you can't see that well so be it it. All patronising mind you but IMO view pretty much fact from all the commentary and opinion of recent months.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 07/09/2018 15:46:35    2140170

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I take that wholly on board mate and i think its one of those ultimate pro/con situations no matter what you do. The cost of it just seems crazy, i had sympathy for them last year when the GAA wouldn't underwrite the 500k over spend, but if your paying a 1000 in taxi cost per training session, it just seems mad and the logical thing to have a cost benefit analysis.

Be probably cheaper to buy the whole panel cars over five year period. i also acknowledge as a Dub we dont this have issue, so i know we are in a privileged position and im definitely not not sympathizing with this delicate issue, just seems like a massive outgoing, given the context and its impact and McStays comments, not to be thought about."
It's just one of the many inequities in the modern GAA world

manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 07/09/2018 23:59:06    2140274

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