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Am I right in saying that Dublin were the only team in their four man group that had home advantage twice. Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal only had one match at home. As another well known sports commentator across the water says ' Unbelievable Geoff '. Dublin and by the country mile are the best team in the land but time we clamp down on such favouritism.

Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 03/09/2018 17:12:50    2138887

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Replying To Triple H:  "Am I right in saying that Dublin were the only team in their four man group that had home advantage twice. Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal only had one match at home. As another well known sports commentator across the water says ' Unbelievable Geoff '. Dublin and by the country mile are the best team in the land but time we clamp down on such favouritism."
Have you been on holiday for a few months or what?

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 03/09/2018 17:19:41    2138889

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Replying To Triple H:  "Am I right in saying that Dublin were the only team in their four man group that had home advantage twice. Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal only had one match at home. As another well known sports commentator across the water says ' Unbelievable Geoff '. Dublin and by the country mile are the best team in the land but time we clamp down on such favouritism."
Where have you been all summer ??? Your next post Xmas is in December , super eights has been done to death , old news

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 03/09/2018 17:33:18    2138895

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Lads did ya hear Michael Jackson just died.

Pantani (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 03/09/2018 17:39:25    2138898

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Replying To Triple H:  "Am I right in saying that Dublin were the only team in their four man group that had home advantage twice. Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal only had one match at home. As another well known sports commentator across the water says ' Unbelievable Geoff '. Dublin and by the country mile are the best team in the land but time we clamp down on such favouritism."
In the end the Roscommon game didn't matter but next year they will change that and will be happy to travel wherever.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/09/2018 17:41:38    2138900

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if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 03/09/2018 17:45:32    2138903

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Replying To Triple H:  "Am I right in saying that Dublin were the only team in their four man group that had home advantage twice. Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal only had one match at home. As another well known sports commentator across the water says ' Unbelievable Geoff '. Dublin and by the country mile are the best team in the land but time we clamp down on such favouritism."
I've always thought the dubs should be brought out of croke park in leinster and the if it's the other team turn for home advantage then they should get it, if people can't be accommodated due to capacity then so what you miss a game. No province should be different from the others. I do think quarter finals, semi finals and finals should be in croke park. No issue with dublin having two home games at quarter final stage but the gaa should never have said their would be a game played on neutral grounds when it's not neutral. Again the gaa putting rules in place and making announcements that they go back on. All they had to say was every team would have at least one home game.

The provincial champions should be given their 1st game at home. Having home advantage for your last game makes no sense when you may be out of the competition at that stage.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 03/09/2018 17:53:56    2138904

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Replying To Triple H:  "Am I right in saying that Dublin were the only team in their four man group that had home advantage twice. Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal only had one match at home. As another well known sports commentator across the water says ' Unbelievable Geoff '. Dublin and by the country mile are the best team in the land but time we clamp down on such favouritism."
Insightful and informative post.

Can't believe they pulled off that stroke without anyone noticing.

They pulled the wool over all our eyes except yours!

The GAA community owes you.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 03/09/2018 17:56:19    2138906

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "In the end the Roscommon game didn't matter but next year they will change that and will be happy to travel wherever."
Wasn't Donegal your "neutral" game?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 03/09/2018 18:11:07    2138912

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Rural counties have to take the blame here. If they are agreeing to a neutral game in Croke Park, Dublin aren't exactly going to be knocking a gift horse in the mouth!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7821 - 04/09/2018 22:14:03    2139278

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Rural counties have to take the blame here. If they are agreeing to a neutral game in Croke Park, Dublin aren't exactly going to be knocking a gift horse in the mouth!"
Has the GAA become a democracy now and the thoughts of Counties are taken in to consideration over the financial gain of the GAA?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 05/09/2018 08:30:00    2139324

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This needs to change undoubtedly but if anyone thinks it made any difference to the Dubs chances of winning the All Ireland you are deluded. They played one away game, which turned out to be against the 2nd best team in the championship, & they won that, To suggest they might not have beaten Roscommon or Donegal away is nonsensical. If anything, having a 2nd game out of Croker might help the Dubs as they would get more of a test.

People need to focus on the real reason the neutral round of games urgently needs to be moved from Croke Park for next year...and that is that the atmosphere is rubbish in a half (or more) empty Croker..and the quality of the football suffers as a result. As a result, the first round of games in the Super 8s captured the attention of nobody & it was pretty much a damp squib. If the first round of games were in provincial venues & been as good as the 2nd round, the Super 8s would have been deemed much more of a success than it was.
Get it fixed please but for the right reasons.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 05/09/2018 09:08:59    2139332

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Make the Super 8 a double-chance KO like the C Ring Cup of 2 yrs ago.
4 1st rd winners to Rd 2A, 4 1st rd losers to Rd 2B.
2A winners to AI SFs, 2B losers are out, and the other 4 contest 2 AI QFs.
4 Prov Champs seeded in the 1st rd.

Or, as I have preferred, to give all a fair shot -
4 Prov Champs playoff, 20 others in Qual Rd 2.
2 Champ winners to AI QFs, 10 Rd 2 losers are out, and the other 12 contest Rd 3 for 6 AI QF berths.
8 initially eliminated in 8 groups of 3 in Qual Rd 1.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2570 - 05/09/2018 11:59:56    2139401

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Replying To KildareKelly:  "This needs to change undoubtedly but if anyone thinks it made any difference to the Dubs chances of winning the All Ireland you are deluded. They played one away game, which turned out to be against the 2nd best team in the championship, & they won that, To suggest they might not have beaten Roscommon or Donegal away is nonsensical. If anything, having a 2nd game out of Croker might help the Dubs as they would get more of a test.

People need to focus on the real reason the neutral round of games urgently needs to be moved from Croke Park for next year...and that is that the atmosphere is rubbish in a half (or more) empty Croker..and the quality of the football suffers as a result. As a result, the first round of games in the Super 8s captured the attention of nobody & it was pretty much a damp squib. If the first round of games were in provincial venues & been as good as the 2nd round, the Super 8s would have been deemed much more of a success than it was.
Get it fixed please but for the right reasons."
No one is saying it affected the All Ireland. Dublin could play every game in Kerry next year and they'll still win Sam.
The bottom line is that Dublin's dominance and that fact that football is getting to be unwatchable, means that the less games in a half empty Croke Park the better.
The first round of Super 8's this year were non events and the attendance reflected that.
GAA said they would "look" at it Doesn't need looking at, needs changing.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 05/09/2018 14:14:40    2139480

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Replying To FootblockREF:  "No one is saying it affected the All Ireland. Dublin could play every game in Kerry next year and they'll still win Sam.
The bottom line is that Dublin's dominance and that fact that football is getting to be unwatchable, means that the less games in a half empty Croke Park the better.
The first round of Super 8's this year were non events and the attendance reflected that.
GAA said they would "look" at it Doesn't need looking at, needs changing."
So you're saying if Dublin weren't dominant that Galway,Kerry,Monaghan & Kildare would have brought enough of a crowd to Croker for the first round of Super 8s to make it a good atmosphere in there ? I disagree completely.

I completely agree it needs changing, I made that clear.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 05/09/2018 15:41:03    2139527

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No issue if Dublin had to play at another ground as I think most of us who follow GAA know they still would have won their group.

Hopefully next year , not least to stop folk harping on about it's relevance to Dublin winnning games, Dublin play on 3 x different grounds next year. If someone is good enough to beat Dublin next year, the venue will not be the reason.

poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 05/09/2018 18:46:55    2139604

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Replying To Triple H:  "Am I right in saying that Dublin were the only team in their four man group that had home advantage twice. Roscommon, Tyrone and Donegal only had one match at home. As another well known sports commentator across the water says ' Unbelievable Geoff '. Dublin and by the country mile are the best team in the land but time we clamp down on such favouritism."
Astounded its taken so long for someone to notice and start a thread about this.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 06/09/2018 12:29:57    2139795

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I think if you blindfolded all players, tie their hands and legs together it would favor the Dubs

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 06/09/2018 12:57:36    2139807

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what teams finished in the top 4 in the national league ? . Galway, Dublin, Monaghan, Tyrone.
what 4 teams ended up in the all-Ireland semi-Semi finals ? . The same 4. what were the 8 teams in div 1 last spring ?. The above 4 plus : Kerry,Mayo,Donegal and Kildare. If you swap Mayo for Roscommon (who will play Div1 next year) it's the same teams who contested the Super 8s. What does that tell you ?. That the league is a fair competition with teams playing against other at roughly the same level on a home or away basis. That the provincials and the qualifiers ended up with virtually the same 8. which proves that no matter what you do thetop teams will prosper, which is only right.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 06/09/2018 14:19:09    2139829

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