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After a great run for Meath Minors with some brilliant performances by all it is now time for the club championships to start next Wednesday 15th

I had a quick look down through the divisions from 1 - 4 and I think the following will be close to winning the respective divisions

Division 1 -- Seneschalstown ( winners ) with Trim or D/Ashbourne close

Division 2 = Dunshaughlin (winners) with Dunderry or Clann na Gael close

Division 3 - Dunboyne (winners) with Summerhill or Oldcastle close

Division 4 - Kilbride ( winners) with Jenkinstown or Na Fianna Close

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 13/08/2018 10:39:10    2132586

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Replying To Bear10:  "After a great run for Meath Minors with some brilliant performances by all it is now time for the club championships to start next Wednesday 15th

I had a quick look down through the divisions from 1 - 4 and I think the following will be close to winning the respective divisions

Division 1 -- Seneschalstown ( winners ) with Trim or D/Ashbourne close

Division 2 = Dunshaughlin (winners) with Dunderry or Clann na Gael close

Division 3 - Dunboyne (winners) with Summerhill or Oldcastle close

Division 4 - Kilbride ( winners) with Jenkinstown or Na Fianna Close"
Yep - Minor starts this week - I think you are close to right with the poetntial winners in each group. Seneschalstown have benefitted from some Rathkenny lads (3 from Maeth Minor panel) and are well placed - they won the under 16 league which the last competition this age group played. However, there is a combination team entered that combines a number of teams from North Meath - they have a fair few of the Meath minor panel on that team so they will be hard to beat. Trim haven't been a factor at the 2001 age group so I think it is more likely that Colmcilles or Ratoath who both got to the semi's of Under 16 will challenge.

I totally agree that Dunshaughlin will take Division 2 - I don't understand why they aren't in division 1`- Likewise surprised to see Dunboyne in Division 3!

I heard there had been efforts to combine Kilbride with another team - so not sure what their numbers are like!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 13/08/2018 12:41:28    2132671

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Replying To ASaminthehand:  "Yep - Minor starts this week - I think you are close to right with the poetntial winners in each group. Seneschalstown have benefitted from some Rathkenny lads (3 from Maeth Minor panel) and are well placed - they won the under 16 league which the last competition this age group played. However, there is a combination team entered that combines a number of teams from North Meath - they have a fair few of the Meath minor panel on that team so they will be hard to beat. Trim haven't been a factor at the 2001 age group so I think it is more likely that Colmcilles or Ratoath who both got to the semi's of Under 16 will challenge.

I totally agree that Dunshaughlin will take Division 2 - I don't understand why they aren't in division 1`- Likewise surprised to see Dunboyne in Division 3!

I heard there had been efforts to combine Kilbride with another team - so not sure what their numbers are like!"
Did not realise that Rathkenny lads playing with Seneschalstown ( Very strong so as you say and could easily win it). But Ultans/Cortown combination strong with McBride in midfield from Minors. Not sure if Trim can be dismissed that easy as they seem to have a lot of players at right age but send their county players to the hurlers instead but you never know. Dunshaughlin have to be very strong and are a Division 1 team no doubt. Not sure about Kllbride as you saying joining another club as they have been making great strides on their own recently . Forgot that Na Fianna had 2 county minors in Kelly & McCloskey so could be dark horses but Underage not that strong

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 13/08/2018 13:21:12    2132696

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Good idea to have amalgamations for the minor championships. Maybe we need more of them. Here's my reasoning. In recent years the demographics in Meath has changed. Some clubs have grown massively in numbers especially those nearer Dublin whilst others have stagnant numbers wise owing to tough housing planning restrictions. We need as many players as possible playing to the highest level possible. So have more amalgamations thereby equalizing the population disparity and have more players playing at an elite level. Was disappointed with the minors losing last Saturday. But they did the jersey proud this season. But cant help but feel if more players played at an elite level they become more accustomed to the tempo of a higher standard of football.

82300 (Louth) - Posts: 31 - 14/08/2018 23:02:22    2133425

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Replying To 82300:  "Good idea to have amalgamations for the minor championships. Maybe we need more of them. Here's my reasoning. In recent years the demographics in Meath has changed. Some clubs have grown massively in numbers especially those nearer Dublin whilst others have stagnant numbers wise owing to tough housing planning restrictions. We need as many players as possible playing to the highest level possible. So have more amalgamations thereby equalizing the population disparity and have more players playing at an elite level. Was disappointed with the minors losing last Saturday. But they did the jersey proud this season. But cant help but feel if more players played at an elite level they become more accustomed to the tempo of a higher standard of football."
I agree with you in the main on that! I suppose the only issue is the fear of clubs losing their identity and old local rivals being forced into 'partnerships'. That said - I can't help but feel your point about increasing overall standards is right!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 15/08/2018 08:15:27    2133462

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Seems a little odd that 3 Rathkenny players would play for Seneschalstown rather than Rathkenny amalgamating with another club.
This is a genuine question and I am not trying to have a dig at any club at all, but can someone tell me: do Rathkenny only have 3 U-17 players interested in playing this year, and if not, what is happening to the other U-17s in the club?

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 15/08/2018 16:25:40    2133644

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And another fixture farce with 8 clubs in Junior A championship action tonight while thrur clubs minors also play championship at the same time.

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 15/08/2018 17:21:45    2133664

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Interesting first round of fixtures in the Division 1 Minor Championship with 6 points being the largest winning margin. Obviously it is a very competitive group this year. Went to the Don/ASh game against Ratoath last night - Goals were the difference with Don/Ash bagging 3 and managing to keep the Rathoath men at bay! Ratoath probably kicking themselves today coughing up a couple of soft goals.
The combination team beat Cillies by a point - I am sure they will get better as teh championship goes on!
Senshelstown who were most people's call for the title beat Trim by 6 - It will be interesting to see how this group plays out!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 16/08/2018 12:06:41    2133811

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I'm a bit confused.. I just read the Hogan stand report from the Roundtowers combination versus Cilles.. Roundtowers had 9 subs !! That's 24 players available in the middle of August. I'm sure there was also a few players away and probably others that didn't bother because they know they won't get played. Are these numbers unusual for a combination team ??? Are teams just combining to win ??

royaljackeen (Meath) - Posts: 37 - 18/08/2018 16:25:49    2134260

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Replying To royaljackeen:  "I'm a bit confused.. I just read the Hogan stand report from the Roundtowers combination versus Cilles.. Roundtowers had 9 subs !! That's 24 players available in the middle of August. I'm sure there was also a few players away and probably others that didn't bother because they know they won't get played. Are these numbers unusual for a combination team ??? Are teams just combining to win ??"
Your not confused. This combination is just so daft it goes against the grain of player development . 4 clubs merged taking on one club. It's just laughable. Here we have the Cilles , working for the last 10 years with their faboulous schools program and producing top players and teams now and the county boards answer, rather than have other clubs work hard the same as the Cilles , it's lets take a shortcut and merge teams so we can take them on. Feel sorry for the litany of poor subs who don't even get to play in the Minor Champuonship.

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 19/08/2018 00:00:29    2134326

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Your not confused. This combination is just so daft it goes against the grain of player development . 4 clubs merged taking on one club. It's just laughable. Here we have the Cilles , working for the last 10 years with their faboulous schools program and producing top players and teams now and the county boards answer, rather than have other clubs work hard the same as the Cilles , it's lets cheat and take a shortcut and merge teams so we can take them on. Feel sorry for the litany of poor subs who don't even get to play in the Minor Champuonship."
Even worse is in Div 2. Tones played North meath gaels, Meath hill,Drumconrath and K'wood combined. While Summerhill and Dunboyne are in Div 3. Dunderry, Tones, Skryne and the Bracks are the only non town based sides who are standing on their own 2 feet at minor level. I think that in itself is credit to those clubs.

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 19/08/2018 11:01:38    2134354

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Replying To Analyst:  "Even worse is in Div 2. Tones played North meath gaels, Meath hill,Drumconrath and K'wood combined. While Summerhill and Dunboyne are in Div 3. Dunderry, Tones, Skryne and the Bracks are the only non town based sides who are standing on their own 2 feet at minor level. I think that in itself is credit to those clubs."
Oldcastle aswell and sure summerhill isn't a town club? But likes of the hill, skryne and the tones should never need to amalgemate they are all huge areas and big senior clubs. The problem is there are 2 many clubs in meath why for instance is there 2 clubs in bohermeen? 1 strong senior team from bohermeen would serve meath football better

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 19/08/2018 12:02:52    2134366

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Oldcastle aswell and sure summerhill isn't a town club? But likes of the hill, skryne and the tones should never need to amalgemate they are all huge areas and big senior clubs. The problem is there are 2 many clubs in meath why for instance is there 2 clubs in bohermeen? 1 strong senior team from bohermeen would serve meath football better"
Being a senior club doesn't mean that your underage will be strong. Summerhill yes, Oldcastle to me would be a town team

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 19/08/2018 12:46:23    2134375

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Oldcastle aswell and sure summerhill isn't a town club? But likes of the hill, skryne and the tones should never need to amalgemate they are all huge areas and big senior clubs. The problem is there are 2 many clubs in meath why for instance is there 2 clubs in bohermeen? 1 strong senior team from bohermeen would serve meath football better"
What are the rules for clubs being allowed to amalgamate ??? I always presumed it was down to numbers.

I was speaking to a fella that was at the Roundtowers combination match the other night, he was told that they have a panel of 30 players. So obviously this amalgamation is not down to numbers.

Rathkenny and Seneschalstown is not a combination because only 3 players transferred... I think its an exemption for minor only. So Rathkenny do not have a minor team this year even though they've a u16 team and the 3 players that transferred to Seneschalstown. Surely they could have a minor team. What are these u16 players doing now..

Are clubs beginning to take easy way out ??

royaljackeen (Meath) - Posts: 37 - 19/08/2018 14:10:46    2134394

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Your not confused. This combination is just so daft it goes against the grain of player development . 4 clubs merged taking on one club. It's just laughable. Here we have the Cilles , working for the last 10 years with their faboulous schools program and producing top players and teams now and the county boards answer, rather than have other clubs work hard the same as the Cilles , it's lets take a shortcut and merge teams so we can take them on. Feel sorry for the litany of poor subs who don't even get to play in the Minor Champuonship."
That's a misinformed statement as St Ultans Cortown Gaels had to give walkovers when on their own at U17 level in the Spring - apparently they only have four or five kids who are actually 17 this year. I was talking to one of their lads who said the subs included a lot of 15 year olds who wouldn't be there if they had the numbers.
Amalgamations should only be for clubs who have difficulty fielding on their own... case in point.

49erroyal (Meath) - Posts: 65 - 23/08/2018 13:10:24    2135917

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Replying To 49erroyal:  "That's a misinformed statement as St Ultans Cortown Gaels had to give walkovers when on their own at U17 level in the Spring - apparently they only have four or five kids who are actually 17 this year. I was talking to one of their lads who said the subs included a lot of 15 year olds who wouldn't be there if they had the numbers.
Amalgamations should only be for clubs who have difficulty fielding on their own... case in point."
St. Ultans/Cortown did not give any walkovers in the Minor League earlier in the year. They actually received one from Slane/St. Mary's.

Killary Emmet's beat them by 1 point and they lost heavily to Kilbride.

I checked the results in the Meath website.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 23/08/2018 15:10:09    2135981

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Replying To jackhackett:  "St. Ultans/Cortown did not give any walkovers in the Minor League earlier in the year. They actually received one from Slane/St. Mary's.

Killary Emmet's beat them by 1 point and they lost heavily to Kilbride.

I checked the results in the Meath website."
I stand corrected. It was at U16 level they gave walkovers in the Spring and at U17 earlier in the year they played games but didn't always have 15. I don't think as an amalgamation they will be within an ass's roar of winning it out - it's Seneschalstown's to lose.

49erroyal (Meath) - Posts: 65 - 23/08/2018 16:29:32    2136025

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Replying To 49erroyal:  "I stand corrected. It was at U16 level they gave walkovers in the Spring and at U17 earlier in the year they played games but didn't always have 15. I don't think as an amalgamation they will be within an ass's roar of winning it out - it's Seneschalstown's to lose."
it's Seneschalstown's to lose! Not so sure about that Colmcilles played badly in the 17's league final against Seneschalstown - I think they will be better prepared this time out! That said, they lost to the combination team in the first round. I think the combination team will get better as they spend more time together. Seneschalstown appear to have the easier side of the draw for sure but I think there will be twists and turns in this yet!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 23/08/2018 17:18:28    2136047

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Replying To ASaminthehand:  "it's Seneschalstown's to lose! Not so sure about that Colmcilles played badly in the 17's league final against Seneschalstown - I think they will be better prepared this time out! That said, they lost to the combination team in the first round. I think the combination team will get better as they spend more time together. Seneschalstown appear to have the easier side of the draw for sure but I think there will be twists and turns in this yet!"
Think the Sench/Rathkenny combination will do the double

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 24/08/2018 15:38:09    2136332

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Replying To longroadback:  "Think the Sench/Rathkenny combination will do the double"
Are you talking about minor level because there is no seneschalstown/rathkenny amalgamation at minor level.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts: 676 - 24/08/2018 16:54:27    2136361

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