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Im talking about Championship games unbeaten." I'm talking about All Irelands. Sure that is what you get for been vague.
GDL (Galway) - Posts: 719 - 12/08/2018 13:42:45
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Replying To kildare73: "The first line of your reply only serves to make my point. That win was 4 years ago and fair play to Donegal at the time but that's been and gone. Mayo are the consistent exception to the rule, always pushed Dublin to the limit. After that can you think of another championship game you ever thought Dublin were going to be beaten in while the game was going on? I can't anyway. Even Tyrone this year in Omagh, you couldn't really see them beating Dublin even though Tyrone gave it a good go. I'll challenge anyone who looks down their nose at Leinster counties to go be Dublin in Championship, then you have the right to criticise Leinster. Other than that you are just another county in line to get beaten." I think you'll find that my initial point was in reply to someone from Laois taking the p**s out of Ulster football which I thought was ironic really given where Leinster football is at. By the way, I enjoyed seeing Kildare playing so well this year and hope they push on now. Gives me no pleasure seeing one county so dominant.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 12/08/2018 13:47:02
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Replying To panamasam: "I think you can add Kerry to that list too. Young Clifford is a game changer, a phenomenal talent for Kerry not to be a contender given the handy passage to the super 8's they will get. They do need to sort themselves out defensively. As for Kildare they need to find consistency but I was impressed with them in the super 8's and feel if they managed to keep 15 players on the field in their last 2 games they could have got results. As for ourselves we are building well and in players like Ryan McHugh, Michael Murphy and Paddy McBrearty we have game changers. That is all and well but the Dublin management are so good at nullifying these players with their match ups you need other guys to step up. I felt this is another reason why Galway faltered so much in the 2nd half. Dublin recognised the threat of Ian Burke and took him out of the game. Bar the first 20 mins the same can be said of Comer and they also kept Walsh quiet in the 2nd half. Galway just did not have the supporting cast to step up yesterday." Funny I by and large treat Kerry as a constant and automatically would include them. I should have clarified. Thinking of counties other than Kerry who between a core senior group and youth slowly being integrated. The three I mentioned strike me as the best placed.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 12/08/2018 14:06:43
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Replying To lambofgod: "Yeah it must be great fun being a professional and beating amateurs by cricket scores. Give me the intensity of tomorrow's match any day.
For the sake of football i pray that Tyrone or Monaghan beat these robots in the final." You do know mc caffrey trained to be a doctor , or is being a doctor a part time option
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/08/2018 14:10:23
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Dublin the best team yesterday but overall Galway more successful in 2018 . With all the money Dublin are professional as it gets yet Galway will be in the minor football and minor and senior hurling All Ireland this year.
heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 12/08/2018 15:16:18
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Replying To JoeSoap: "Some amount of nonsense gets posted here at times. I have to say I didn't expect such a comprehensive win for the Dubs but Galway didn't help themselves at all. I felt there were a lot of parallels with our win in 2014 in the first half in that Galway hung in there and then got some big chances for goals. When you think about what happened in that first half, they left at least 1-4 out on the pitch with the missed penalty and missed frees from Walsh as well as some pot shots, and then you have Dublin's goal which deflected off the defender. In 2014 we barely hit a single wide or dropped one short, took our goal chance and also rode our luck with Durcan making a save and Dublin butchering a 2-on-1 at one stage as well. These little things swing the momentum away from the team trying to unseat the Dubs - I've said it a million times but you need everything to go right for you and also for Dublin to have a bit of an off day for at least a half of football.
Had Galway netted the penalty they would have been 3 or 4 points up and were on top of Cluxton's kickout in that small period. Who knows what happens then - there was an odd atmosphere there yesterday too so it would've been interesting to see how the players would react. I still think Dublin would have come out the other end with a win (they are so much better than they were in 2014), but people wouldn't be talking about the game in the same way as they are. The biggest factor in how comprehesive the win was for Dublin was Galway's shooting - and I don't mean for that to take away from Dublin's excellent performance, especially second half. They were patient and clinical in front of the posts. Some fantastic play and Jack McCaffrey was sensational in particular.
I was disappointed in Galway for that shooting and the belief seemed to go right out of them in the period after the penalty. There wasn't much intensity after that it seemed to me. I think they will look back on yesterday with a bit of regret but that can be a powerful thing - lots to learn for them from yesterday and they will be challenging for Sam next year.
As for Dublin, I think Monaghan/Tyrone will smash into them in the final but they will have too much for either side and they deserve to be the first Dublin side to make 4-in-a-row, they are fantastic." Agree the missed penalty just zapped the energy and we couldn't convert most of our frees. I do think the lads will look back with regret they went for it for about 20 mins and then stopped almost gave up. Someone else said our we dont have the supporting cast to support comer and Burke. We do but they didn't step up yesterday. We have the s&c sorted I think mentality really needs to be worked on.
Yes dubs deserve the 4 in the row unless monaghan and Tyrone massively step up
galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 12/08/2018 15:25:43
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Replying To heartbroken: "Dublin the best team yesterday but overall Galway more successful in 2018 . With all the money Dublin are professional as it gets yet Galway will be in the minor football and minor and senior hurling All Ireland this year." With all the money , Dublin professional, probably the laziest cliched post this year , you should learn to take a beating with a bit more class , or the very least educate yourself on professions of the Dublin players , our set up is no more professional than your hurlers , we had Joe Canning down for a training session, good talk ,interesting what Galway players have available to them ,
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/08/2018 15:51:48
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Replying To Damothedub: "With all the money , Dublin professional, probably the laziest cliched post this year , you should learn to take a beating with a bit more class , or the very least educate yourself on professions of the Dublin players , our set up is no more professional than your hurlers , we had Joe Canning down for a training session, good talk ,interesting what Galway players have available to them ," JC is an exception in fairness. Very few if any of the Galway footballers driving around in sponsored cars and get little out of huge committment. Most of our fans by the posts acknowledge the great team ye have. Most of your detractors are from other counties.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 12/08/2018 16:22:24
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Replying To Damothedub: "With all the money , Dublin professional, probably the laziest cliched post this year , you should learn to take a beating with a bit more class , or the very least educate yourself on professions of the Dublin players , our set up is no more professional than your hurlers , we had Joe Canning down for a training session, good talk ,interesting what Galway players have available to them ," Comer is the only one of our footballers who has anything like that none of the other lads. I don't begrudge the dublin lads for making money out of it. Fairplay to them. Not jealous of their sponsored cars or even their all stars it's the Celtic crosses I want for the galway team. Thankfully none of the galway lads strut around the place thinking they are the big I am (this was a big problem for years when we couldn't even win connacht) the few I met are sound lads who are very involved with promoting the underage scenes in their clubs.
Dublin have more money but it's just a fact of life. Dublin also have massively talented players. Other counties need to stop whinging and get on with it. Mayo aren't 2nd in the pecking order of money but are the only ones who have pushed the dubs recently.
galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 12/08/2018 16:54:35
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Replying To Damothedub: "With all the money , Dublin professional, probably the laziest cliched post this year , you should learn to take a beating with a bit more class , or the very least educate yourself on professions of the Dublin players , our set up is no more professional than your hurlers , we had Joe Canning down for a training session, good talk ,interesting what Galway players have available to them ," I take my beating and we were well bet. Dublin are the best team at the moment however football is dying a death, and unless there is a overhaul of how football is played it's decline will continue.
heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 12/08/2018 17:13:27
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Replying To GDL: "I'm talking about All Irelands. Sure that is what you get for been vague." Vague indeed!
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/08/2018 17:27:14
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Replying To heartbroken: "I take my beating and we were well bet. Dublin are the best team at the moment however football is dying a death, and unless there is a overhaul of how football is played it's decline will continue." A complete over haul to the way it's played? You know who'd adapt the best to the changes the team with the best players so dublin would still be dominating. Other teams need to get to dublins level . I think theyre are a few teams out there that could and I'd count Galway as one of them. Every team with a chance needs to add intensity and composure when they encounter the dubs. Mayo brought the intensity but lacked the composure to get over the line
galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 12/08/2018 17:28:28
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Replying To endgame: "Dublin beat Tyrone by 12 points last year, not by 14. 2-17 to 0-11." I stand corrected. Still not a hope.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 12/08/2018 17:38:28
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Replying To Damothedub: "You do know mc caffrey trained to be a doctor , or is being a doctor a part time option" He is following in the footsteps of his father Noel, doctor and Dublin footballer.
thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 12/08/2018 17:40:17
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Replying To heartbroken: "I take my beating and we were well bet. Dublin are the best team at the moment however football is dying a death, and unless there is a overhaul of how football is played it's decline will continue." Football is simple , it's been overly complicated in recent years , fitness over skill , system over individual, the team that scores the most with the best skill set will win out more times than not , take a look at the two teams today and Galway yesterday the amount of wides shocking , teams have a choice take to the pitch with a win mentality or a more conservative mindset that's what's killing the game , until the mindset changes no rule changes will make a difference
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 12/08/2018 17:59:32
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Replying To Damothedub: "Football is simple , it's been overly complicated in recent years , fitness over skill , system over individual, the team that scores the most with the best skill set will win out more times than not , take a look at the two teams today and Galway yesterday the amount of wides shocking , teams have a choice take to the pitch with a win mentality or a more conservative mindset that's what's killing the game , until the mindset changes no rule changes will make a difference" True, teams focus too much on how the Dubs play instead of going out with their own game plan, their own style. If you adjust your game too much to suit the opposition what you are saying to your team is they are better than us.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 12/08/2018 18:04:14
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Replying To galwayfball: "Agree the missed penalty just zapped the energy and we couldn't convert most of our frees. I do think the lads will look back with regret they went for it for about 20 mins and then stopped almost gave up. Someone else said our we dont have the supporting cast to support comer and Burke. We do but they didn't step up yesterday. We have the s&c sorted I think mentality really needs to be worked on.
Yes dubs deserve the 4 in the row unless monaghan and Tyrone massively step up" What I meant is supporting cast on the day not that you don't have it.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 12/08/2018 19:49:29
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Galway lack of ambition yesterday was sad to see. What an opportunity to go toe to toe wit da dubs an test yourself instead they made it easy for them. Walsh comin out after sayin they were happy wit their progress this year is more rubbish...looked the day they beat Kerry that was their AI and so it panned out...it was downhill all the way from there..
blacknamber (Kerry) - Posts: 267 - 12/08/2018 22:24:14
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Replying To blacknamber: "Galway lack of ambition yesterday was sad to see. What an opportunity to go toe to toe wit da dubs an test yourself instead they made it easy for them. Walsh comin out after sayin they were happy wit their progress this year is more rubbish...looked the day they beat Kerry that was their AI and so it panned out...it was downhill all the way from there.." Lack of ambition, or lack of talent? Elements in Galway & Kerry fell into similar traps in 2018 imo. Some Galway folk comparing this current team to the 1998-2001 crew, suggesting that our current forward power was comparable. Absolutely laughable notion that, imo. Kerry a tad similar. After the Munster final, I heard Pat Spillane on live TV drop the 'great' word on this young Kerry side. Make no mistake, after that Munster Final, some people, in Kerry & elsewhere, lost the run of themselves regarding the standard of that Kerry team, thinking all-ireland final easily, and maybe give the Dubs a run too. Then came the reality check, after a pathetic flop to what is, at the end of the day, still a slightly mediocre Galway outfit.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3410 - 13/08/2018 10:01:23
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I really didn't get that 2nd half performance from Galway. Maybe the knock on effect of the Monaghan game was there to be seen in terms of their momentum going into the game but they lacked intensity in that 2nd half.
I don't want to knock Walsh down as I think he's done a good job, topped Div 1, lost a league final by a small margin, won a Connacht title and made it to the semi's. If you had asked any Galway fan would that do you for this year they would have snatched your hand off for it.
But as highlighted on the Sunday Game last night, the game plan from Galway was nowhere to be seen when it mattered most. Dublin were always going to get a period of dominance in the game but the least Galway could do was make them work for it. I couldn't get my head around how they were affording Ciaran Kilkenny so much space in the first half and not have that corrected in the 2nd. The template for how to take Dublin on was set by Mayo over the last few seasons. You have to commit a man marker on certain players, in the final last year Mayo closed Kilkenny down and he didn't make the impact we know he can. Going forward, Galway looked completely clueless 2nd half too which was surprising as Ian Burke And Damien Comer were tormenting that Dublin full back line in the 1st. Galway just couldn't figure out a way to get the ball into them quick enough. I don't have the stats in front of me, but I'd say you could count on one hand how many turnovers Galway forced 2nd half. There was just no intensity in the middle of the park for them.
The annoying thing there is, these are all things that can be fixed so easily when attitude and momentum are with a team. Galway are a better team than what we saw on Saturday and I expect them to be back next season. We can't underestimate what a loss Paul Conroy was there too, he could have made a huge difference in the middle of the pitch.
keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 13/08/2018 10:18:58
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