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Replying To clondalkindub:  "It's muck plain and simple, hand pass after hand pass bore fest , watch the Dublin game today against a team like Roscommon who set up traditionally and tell me we play like the northern teams. We don't we set up what ever way the other team sets up.

There's no atmosphere at these games until near the end when times nearly up and it gets a bit exciting cause we need a winner otherwise it's brutal stuff, hurling is embarrassing us this summer. Watching Clare Galway then turning on the football my god it's shocking."
Dublin play the same type of football but you have better players and if you think differently then you need to take the blinkers off. Maybe ye add a little extra -like the bit of rugger at the end of last years AI where ye downed any Mayo player who had a chance of getting the last kick-out.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/08/2018 10:55:46    2129904

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A tough one to take for sure but if we're being honest the better team won and we can have few complaints.
We had put ourselves in a decent position but just didn't have the same incisiveness and freshness Tyrone were able to bring to the closing stages. I thought some of our substitutions were a wee bit strange, would have liked to have seen Mulligan and Stephen McBrearty but wasn't to be.

McQuillan was poor for both teams - hard to make sense of a lot of his decisions. Very inconsistent and frustrating for both sets of players & supporters alike.

Tyrone look to be ominously knowing their best team. They're in great shape and if they can transition the ball a bit quicker into the likes of Brennan and Bradley they'll give Monaghan and Dublin/Galway their fill of it,

For ourselves it was a disappointing end to an uplifting year. Ulster success is not to be sniffed at and we have developed a lot. Div 2 next spring might not be the worst thing. We'll hopefully have the likes of Jason McGee, Micheal Carroll, Kieran Gillespie, Eoghan McHugh back in the squad. Lads like O'Baoíll, Mulligan, O'Donnell, S McBrearty etc will also hopefully push hard and God willing Paddy will be back and at 100%.

In short, beidh lá eile ag an bPaorach!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 06/08/2018 12:19:24    2129938

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "It's muck plain and simple, hand pass after hand pass bore fest , watch the Dublin game today against a team like Roscommon who set up traditionally and tell me we play like the northern teams. We don't we set up what ever way the other team sets up.

There's no atmosphere at these games until near the end when times nearly up and it gets a bit exciting cause we need a winner otherwise it's brutal stuff, hurling is embarrassing us this summer. Watching Clare Galway then turning on the football my god it's shocking."
Of course ye go for it against a weaker team, Tyrone scored 4:24 against them too. Dublin are happy to play boring football when it suits.
When Dublin put 15 behind the ball it's great counter attacking football with 'hybrid' footballers or when they play slow football across the pitch it's patient. Any boring football it's because of the opposition.

Anyone else it's negative football without any forwards. Galway are arguably the most negative football of the bigger teams currently, but hey they aren't from Ulster... so hey...

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 06/08/2018 21:34:17    2130193

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Replying To browncows:  "Dublin play the same type of football but you have better players and if you think differently then you need to take the blinkers off. Maybe ye add a little extra -like the bit of rugger at the end of last years AI where ye downed any Mayo player who had a chance of getting the last kick-out."
A Meath poster talking about Rugby antics at the end of a match haha!! Priceless!

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 06/08/2018 21:47:35    2130200

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Replying To HokeyPokey:  "Of course ye go for it against a weaker team, Tyrone scored 4:24 against them too. Dublin are happy to play boring football when it suits.
When Dublin put 15 behind the ball it's great counter attacking football with 'hybrid' footballers or when they play slow football across the pitch it's patient. Any boring football it's because of the opposition.

Anyone else it's negative football without any forwards. Galway are arguably the most negative football of the bigger teams currently, but hey they aren't from Ulster... so hey..."
agreed 100% correct , The dubs don't like the cold honest truth, should be happy though as Jim Gavins blanket defence can keep them all warm

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 07/08/2018 12:25:14    2130388

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I don't think I can add much to what other posters have already said about the game. Tyrone were the better side going down the final stretch and thoroughly deserved their victory. It was clear to see they are more advanced in terms of fitness and they had a much better bench than us. Best of luck to Tyrone for the rest of the year.

Considering how poor Donegal were last year we can be happy with the progress this year. Winning the Ulster title was huge for the youger players but it was always going to be tough once we lost Paddy McBrearty to injury. Some of our younger players like Eoghan Ban Gallagher, Shaun Patton and Jamie Brennan have had a great season.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 07/08/2018 12:45:26    2130404

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Replying To Lifford Gael:  "Yes, Donegal seemed to run out of steam for sure in the final quarter. One cynical aspect of the game which was allowed to go unchecked was one of the Tyrone backroom staff with a green bib continually kicking a second ball onto the pitch every time the Donegal goalie went to take a quick kick out in the last 10 minutes and slowing the game up. It happened at least 5 or 6 times before the linesman intervened and sent him to the dugout. If I had been on that side of the pitch I'd have jumped the fence myself and put him in the dugout. How did the Donegal bench allow this to continually go unchecked and why did McQuillan do nothing about it earlier when it was obvious what was going on."
The umpire brought the refs attention to this long before the water carrier was sent to the bench. also the runner seemed to run out of steam a few times when the ball was near. I hope both of these get a ban for the rest of the championship but then again who send the extra footballs down to the water carrier in the last 10 mins.

HeadsorTails (Donegal) - Posts: 4 - 07/08/2018 13:00:27    2130410

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Nice picture of Ronan McNamee (waving) at the Donegal fans doing the rounds at the minute!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 08/08/2018 09:09:54    2130719

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Replying To Lifford Gael:  "Yes, Donegal seemed to run out of steam for sure in the final quarter. One cynical aspect of the game which was allowed to go unchecked was one of the Tyrone backroom staff with a green bib continually kicking a second ball onto the pitch every time the Donegal goalie went to take a quick kick out in the last 10 minutes and slowing the game up. It happened at least 5 or 6 times before the linesman intervened and sent him to the dugout. If I had been on that side of the pitch I'd have jumped the fence myself and put him in the dugout. How did the Donegal bench allow this to continually go unchecked and why did McQuillan do nothing about it earlier when it was obvious what was going on."
and you didnt see the donegal mentor continually running on to the pitch when morgan was hitting his kickouts...

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 09/08/2018 22:35:54    2131374

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "and you didnt see the donegal mentor continually running on to the pitch when morgan was hitting his kickouts..."
It wasn't continuous and play wasn't stopped or halted continuously like it was when Tyrone kept kicking balls onto the field. Maybe in Croke Park they'll be more alert to that stuff.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 10/08/2018 11:41:29    2131494

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Replying To cacsmckilly:  "Today shows how Donegal's Ulster title should be taken with a serious piece of salt"
Maybe but Donegal played without Paddy McB last weekend. Conversely if Tyrone had faced Donegal in an Ulster final this year in all likelihood Tiernan McCann, Colm Cavanagh and Lee Brennan would have either missed the match or not be 100% fit. With that in mind you still feel it should be taken with a pinch of salt? No question without having to beat Tyrone or Monaghan it was a handy Ulster to pick up but you can be guaranteed with Paddy back and no serious injuries to Ryan, Ban or MM Donegal won't be far away again next year. Especially when some of our younger lads will have gained more experience and conditioning.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 10/08/2018 19:43:46    2131615

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "It wasn't continuous and play wasn't stopped or halted continuously like it was when Tyrone kept kicking balls onto the field. Maybe in Croke Park they'll be more alert to that stuff."
ah ok then, so its not cynical?...

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 11/08/2018 22:46:16    2132011

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "ah ok then, so its not cynical?..."
A guy runs on to give instructions to players once or twice in the game (game isn't stopped and the guy gets manhandled by a Tyrone player in the process on one occasion) versus someone in the Tyrone management team kicking the Ball onto the field 6/7 times in a row at the business end of the game and play needing to be stopped each time until there was one ball on the field.... which situation is cynical? Doesn't take a genius to (honestly) answer that one

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 11/08/2018 23:49:26    2132043

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Replying To panamasam:  "Maybe but Donegal played without Paddy McB last weekend. Conversely if Tyrone had faced Donegal in an Ulster final this year in all likelihood Tiernan McCann, Colm Cavanagh and Lee Brennan would have either missed the match or not be 100% fit. With that in mind you still feel it should be taken with a pinch of salt? No question without having to beat Tyrone or Monaghan it was a handy Ulster to pick up but you can be guaranteed with Paddy back and no serious injuries to Ryan, Ban or MM Donegal won't be far away again next year. Especially when some of our younger lads will have gained more experience and conditioning."
I think big Murph is gettin tired.maybe 40 mins or less in him from now on at full tilt is best way to utilize him.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 12/08/2018 04:04:21    2132069

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "A guy runs on to give instructions to players once or twice in the game (game isn't stopped and the guy gets manhandled by a Tyrone player in the process on one occasion) versus someone in the Tyrone management team kicking the Ball onto the field 6/7 times in a row at the business end of the game and play needing to be stopped each time until there was one ball on the field.... which situation is cynical? Doesn't take a genius to (honestly) answer that one"
Don't forget their own mentor running on doing the same thing. At one point Stephen McMenamin narrowly avoided a collision with same mentor.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 12/08/2018 11:29:32    2132152

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "I think big Murph is gettin tired.maybe 40 mins or less in him from now on at full tilt is best way to utilize him."
Definitely lost a bit of pace anyways and not a fan of him dropping back deep no matter what line he or the management put out. Donegal are slow enough around the middle as it is so. Fine against the weaker sides but not against super 8 calibre sides. That is one of the biggest challenges facing Donegal looking forward is trying to develop players with height, pace and athleticism to play around the middle. There are a couple of lads with that potential but up to them to now step up and put their hand up and stake a claim.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 13/08/2018 23:45:40    2133014

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