Anyone else think that the previous push by the Mayo team against Connolly and Holmes has provided the platform for such carry on? I'm all for players rights but I do think this has set an unfortunate precedent, whereby, when enough people feel aggrieved over something they can push their own agenda. This wasn't a unanimous call across the panel and all issues stemmed from players from one club (albeit others appeared at the press conference today).
Player power would seem to be alive and well, who'd want to be a manager

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 18/09/2018 16:27:13    2142531

I think one of the main issues people have with the group of players is with the statement, its not very clear what the whole issue was, lack of feedback from management doesn't seem the strongest case for people leaving the squad, calling one of the players lazy ( a tactic Jose Mourinho uses regularly). As pointed out by the county board they have a liaison officer in place, but is does not appear the players made use of this option. Also the county board say they brought in a mediatior but sounds like the players were unwilling to discuss there grievances there. No matter where the blame lies this has all gotten very messy indeed. Feel especially sorry for the players who decided to remain who are caught up in the middle of this, am sure they are been pulled at from both sides.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 18/09/2018 16:36:16    2142533

Except, as I've pointed out already, the Mayo LGFA Board ignored other, similar rules pertaining to individual players refusing to tog for the county.

Ignoring one rule for one group of people and enforcing another against another group is discrimination, full stop.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 18/09/2018 16:54:29    2142538

It is a completely different scenario when a club withdraws players than where individual players decide not to play.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 941 - 18/09/2018 17:45:16    2142544

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 18/09/2018 18:02:27    2142548

I think banning Carnacon from the Championship was an over reaction from the Mayo LGFA to be honest.

I still find it hard to fathom the unsafe and unhealthy nature of the Mayo camp for a minority of the squad though.

Ultimately everyone loses though and it is a massive shame for everyone that it has escalated to this level over what seems to be very little but if the players don't want to play then there is little that can be done I suppose.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 18/09/2018 18:09:54    2142551

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 18/09/2018 18:27:42    2142556

Was astonished to read that The Mayo ladies received a meal after each training session. My daughter was on the Down panel for years, and never suffered such largesse; Ladies Gaelic football has no money. It's also very hard to persuade people to serve on county boards, as it's a completely thankless task

befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 18/09/2018 18:33:14    2142557

I think egos are involved....and I wonder if the 'greatest' is behind this.

I say it has to be egos or otherwise all players would have walked from these 'unsafe conditions.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 18/09/2018 19:51:05    2142565

Here, here, arock. Good on ye girls. The greatest struggle is off the pitch in a make dominated culture of down right bullying right across our games.
Your stance of zero tolerance to this behavior is the only way this culture will be eradicated.

Keep fighting the Noble fight girls. There is no other way

Shame in the county board, but predictable.

northbouind (Galway) - Posts: 304 - 18/09/2018 20:14:39    2142568

You can't just make this a female issue because it suits , if anything that's condescending and sexist, it's a sports issue , I've been listening to off the ball all night and for me I still think the girls have been very coy with detail , a phone call we're coach mouthed off and a player who took umbrage with the time of the dressing down , this is embarrassing in a week we're the best of ladies GAA was advertised on Sunday , no winners , honestly don't see county board backing down and if and I say if they are to be believed and those that stepped down put pressure on those that didn't to join them well then shame on them

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 18/09/2018 20:31:17    2142574

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 18/09/2018 21:43:51    2142592

Clondalkinkid you may have well uneittingly have put your finger on the nub of the issue.
I played gaa for for many a year and my greatest regret that I didn't take a stance against the constant verbal abuse and belittling of myself and my mates from managers. Our generation accepted it as normal, not these girls. No place anymore in our games for this nonsense.

northbouind (Galway) - Posts: 304 - 18/09/2018 21:51:39    2142593

And for the record banning the Carnacon club was a huge mistake and it was rightly found by the Connacht Board to be wrong collective punishment is a denial of fair justice. This shows the fundamental vindictiveness in the county boards behaviour, probably motivated by a desire to teach this club a lesson and punish the entire club is an utter disgrace. They have even appealed that decision again to the same Connacht Board clearly they have no shame it is they that are bringing the game into disrepute. Ultimately this will end up in the DRA and I would predict it will end in tears for the Mayo county board in more ways than one.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 18/09/2018 22:31:18    2142600

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 941 - 18/09/2018 23:03:05    2142604

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1043 - 18/09/2018 23:05:50    2142605

..and tonight "Carnacon reinstated to championship but 8 players who left the Mayo squad hit with 4-week bans" and they have 5 days to appeal and so and on and on and on it goes

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 18/09/2018 23:29:39    2142609

Arock, Gleebo etc., in your support of the "walk out" players, do you also support their use of the word "unsafe" to describe the Mayo set-up?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 19/09/2018 00:08:18    2142614

The only people making it a female issue are condescending males who barely tolerate females even as partners never mind sports people

Well that says more about your situation than anything else you said and perhaps points to your own issues.
"Condescending males" indeed, never meet a condescending female have you not or one who might prefer to make a non descriptive allegation and leave it to others to draw their own conclusions as to what was meant.
Catch yourself on and stop letting your own personal feelings cloud your judgement.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 19/09/2018 08:08:27    2142621

This is getting out of hand, they women are making themselves look worse and worse in what was a great week for ladies football.

If you cant take critisim its not the place for you

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 19/09/2018 08:55:39    2142622