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Clare v Wexford in Cork makes no sense

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People do love to moan - and the GAA sure does give you every opportunity.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 10/07/2018 08:55:36    2120266

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Replying To PyatPree:  "They wont with the likes of you not to be bothered traveling down to support them"
Where did he say he wasn't going to travel to see his team play?

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1056 - 10/07/2018 08:59:32    2120267

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Replying To cityman73:  "It's down to having games on tv,we moan enough enough games on tv,the GAA make sure every game is on TV,we still moan,well done to the gaa,all games on TV and making sure stadiums are getting use,great to see two games in my county ."
would you be saying how great it was if limerick kilkenny was fixed for sligo?because that is the equivalent.cross-country roads,and 3 hours from gorey and 2hr 40 from enniscorthy (where a huge amount of the wexford support is) to cork.
it is very easy to say its grand when it is not you discommoded.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/07/2018 09:01:56    2120269

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Replying To PyatPree:  "People just love to moan, Waterford and Tipp would love to be in that position. If Cork were in the QF i'd travel to belfast to see them"
You might, and I would travel any distance to see our sides but that is not the point. If you are an elderly person, as I am, driving from North of Gorey or Ballyvaughan to Cork and then finding it difficult to get out of the the Pairc Ui Caoimh area quickly after the game can be a headache. I drove to the Cork/Limerick game and was near Watergrasshill by about 4.15 yet it was 5.25 before I was seated in Pairc Ui Caoimh. After taking an age to get through the tunnel I had to park in the Blackrock Gaa Grounds and walk a considerable distance to the pitch. On my way there it was noticeable that there was plenty room in Housing estates where parking could have allowed without undue hindrance to locals, if properly managed, but there were totally cut off by barriers. It was as if GAA supporters were unwelcome in those leafy suburbs.. On the way out it took an age to get out of the Blackrock grounds and though traffic flowed fairly freely after, it was still about an hour before we got through the tunnel. There was 34,000 people at that game. By contrast at the Munster Final in Thurles, where there was 43,000, I parked in the square, waited until the end of the game and was enjoying a quiet pint, non alcaholic of course, in Morrossseys of Johnstown, twelve miles from Thurles, twenty minutes into the Kikenny/ Galway game (forty five minutes after I left the pitch).
Anyway why was it not the Limerick/Kilkenny match that was fixed for Cork. Now I know Thurles is much more convenient to both counties. but large parts of West and South Limerick are nearing to Cork and the M8 runs from North West Kilkenny all the way to Cork, whereas the there is practically no part of Clare or Wexford that is closer to Cork than Thurles and the roads are poor from both counties to the Southern Capital.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 10/07/2018 09:37:04    2120277

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Replying To cityman73:  "It's down to having games on tv,we moan enough enough games on tv,the GAA make sure every game is on TV,we still moan,well done to the gaa,all games on TV and making sure stadiums are getting use,great to see two games in my county ."
What two games are on in 'our county'?

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 10/07/2018 09:38:22    2120278

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Anyway why was it not the Limerick/Kilkenny match that was fixed for Cork. Now I know Thurles is much more convenient to both counties. but large parts of West and South Limerick are nearing to Cork and the M8 runs from North West Kilkenny all the way to Cork, whereas the there is practically no part of Clare or Wexford that is closer to Cork than Thurles and the roads are poor from both counties to the Southern Capital.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1522 - 10/07/2018 09:37:04 2120277

sensible post as always by you oldtourman,i suppose nicky brennan was never going to drag kk to cork......suit his own first when making the fixtures.
i think that is the point,people don't seem to realise just how bad the location of pairc ui chaoimh is.an hour extra to get in or out,and then 3 hours home?

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/07/2018 10:20:59    2120288

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with the Clare lackluster performance against Cork in the Munster final & a Sat evening its so hard to motivate to go to see it. In the end there was just 2 points & so many scorable chances were flunked I find it still so frustrating. A Clare team that are up & down as of old with more often the latter its hard to warm to. Center field Cork cleaned up in the second half & there was no changes made for non performing players. Only player trying was CG. I believe central to these changes is TK not in the starting line up. Time Clare mg made the hard decisions, time the battle plan was changed.

onthestand (Clare) - Posts: 25 - 10/07/2018 10:44:24    2120296

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Replying To onthestand:  "with the Clare lackluster performance against Cork in the Munster final & a Sat evening its so hard to motivate to go to see it. In the end there was just 2 points & so many scorable chances were flunked I find it still so frustrating. A Clare team that are up & down as of old with more often the latter its hard to warm to. Center field Cork cleaned up in the second half & there was no changes made for non performing players. Only player trying was CG. I believe central to these changes is TK not in the starting line up. Time Clare mg made the hard decisions, time the battle plan was changed."
funnily,i think the same attitude is there in wexford.enthusiasm is low enough after a mediocre leinster champ campaign.
both sides have a lot of improving to do.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/07/2018 11:40:16    2120323

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Replying To perfect10:  "Anyway why was it not the Limerick/Kilkenny match that was fixed for Cork. Now I know Thurles is much more convenient to both counties. but large parts of West and South Limerick are nearing to Cork and the M8 runs from North West Kilkenny all the way to Cork, whereas the there is practically no part of Clare or Wexford that is closer to Cork than Thurles and the roads are poor from both counties to the Southern Capital.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1522 - 10/07/2018 09:37:04 2120277

sensible post as always by you oldtourman,i suppose nicky brennan was never going to drag kk to cork......suit his own first when making the fixtures.
i think that is the point,people don't seem to realise just how bad the location of pairc ui chaoimh is.an hour extra to get in or out,and then 3 hours home?"
Nicky Brennan making the fixtures? What are you on about?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 10/07/2018 12:18:00    2120331

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Replying To perfect10:  "funnily,i think the same attitude is there in wexford.enthusiasm is low enough after a mediocre leinster champ campaign.
both sides have a lot of improving to do."
Am I hearing this right. Clare and Wexford playing in an AI quarter-final, with a chance of making the semi-finals; and there's low enthusiasm in both counties? They've been spoilt by all those finals they've played in over the last twenty years.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 10/07/2018 12:26:57    2120335

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To perfect10:  "Anyway why was it not the Limerick/Kilkenny match that was fixed for Cork. Now I know Thurles is much more convenient to both counties. but large parts of West and South Limerick are nearing to Cork and the M8 runs from North West Kilkenny all the way to Cork, whereas the there is practically no part of Clare or Wexford that is closer to Cork than Thurles and the roads are poor from both counties to the Southern Capital.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1522 - 10/07/2018 09:37:04 2120277

sensible post as always by you oldtourman,i suppose nicky brennan was never going to drag kk to cork......suit his own first when making the fixtures.
i think that is the point,people don't seem to realise just how bad the location of pairc ui chaoimh is.an hour extra to get in or out,and then 3 hours home?"
Nicky Brennan making the fixtures? What are you on about?"
i meant ned quinn,sorry wrong kk man.

from google maps - time to thurles from each of the main county towns :
ennis - 1hr 23
limerick - 1hr 6
wexford - 2hr 6
kilkenny - FIFTY MINUTES

time to cork from each of the main county towns :
ennis - 2hr
limerick - 1hr 43
wexford - 2hr 35
kilkenny - 1hr 51

talk about suiting your own........

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/07/2018 14:06:52    2120385

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Am I hearing this right. Clare and Wexford playing in an AI quarter-final, with a chance of making the semi-finals; and there's low enthusiasm in both counties? They've been spoilt by all those finals they've played in over the last twenty years."
there is low enthusiasm because both counties are sick and tired of always being the ones discommoded like this.3pm on a saturday is probably the worst time imaginable for a match.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/07/2018 14:10:07    2120391

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and bear in mind,almost the entire county of wexford is more than that from cork.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/07/2018 14:15:46    2120396

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Am I hearing this right. Clare and Wexford playing in an AI quarter-final, with a chance of making the semi-finals; and there's low enthusiasm in both counties? They've been spoilt by all those finals they've played in over the last twenty years."
No!

I think people are just speaking for themselves, theres plenty of enthusiasm for the game next weekend in Wexford anyway from all the people ive spoken to. Personally speaking Saturday at 3pm doesnt suit me so i cant make it, i was hoping for a sunday game.

The venue doesnt bother me, i much preferred my day out last year in Cork than trudging the back roads to Thurles and for someone who brings the wife and kids to the game found Cork to be much better location for a game.

Plenty in Wexford looking forward to this one and plenty of other counties would love to be in our position.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1326 - 10/07/2018 14:23:47    2120400

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Replying To perfect10:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=perfect10:  "Anyway why was it not the Limerick/Kilkenny match that was fixed for Cork. Now I know Thurles is much more convenient to both counties. but large parts of West and South Limerick are nearing to Cork and the M8 runs from North West Kilkenny all the way to Cork, whereas the there is practically no part of Clare or Wexford that is closer to Cork than Thurles and the roads are poor from both counties to the Southern Capital.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1522 - 10/07/2018 09:37:04 2120277

sensible post as always by you oldtourman,i suppose nicky brennan was never going to drag kk to cork......suit his own first when making the fixtures.
i think that is the point,people don't seem to realise just how bad the location of pairc ui chaoimh is.an hour extra to get in or out,and then 3 hours home?"
Nicky Brennan making the fixtures? What are you on about?"
i meant ned quinn,sorry wrong kk man.

from google maps - time to thurles from each of the main county towns :
ennis - 1hr 23
limerick - 1hr 6
wexford - 2hr 6
kilkenny - FIFTY MINUTES

time to cork from each of the main county towns :
ennis - 2hr
limerick - 1hr 43
wexford - 2hr 35
kilkenny - 1hr 51

talk about suiting your own........"]Ned Quinn is Kilkenny's representative on the Central Council (every county has a representative). He has been there just over 6 months, and you're saying he's dictating who plays where?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 10/07/2018 14:45:54    2120408

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To perfect10:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=perfect10:  "Anyway why was it not the Limerick/Kilkenny match that was fixed for Cork. Now I know Thurles is much more convenient to both counties. but large parts of West and South Limerick are nearing to Cork and the M8 runs from North West Kilkenny all the way to Cork, whereas the there is practically no part of Clare or Wexford that is closer to Cork than Thurles and the roads are poor from both counties to the Southern Capital.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1522 - 10/07/2018 09:37:04 2120277

sensible post as always by you oldtourman,i suppose nicky brennan was never going to drag kk to cork......suit his own first when making the fixtures.
i think that is the point,people don't seem to realise just how bad the location of pairc ui chaoimh is.an hour extra to get in or out,and then 3 hours home?"
Nicky Brennan making the fixtures? What are you on about?"
i meant ned quinn,sorry wrong kk man.

from google maps - time to thurles from each of the main county towns :
ennis - 1hr 23
limerick - 1hr 6
wexford - 2hr 6
kilkenny - FIFTY MINUTES

time to cork from each of the main county towns :
ennis - 2hr
limerick - 1hr 43
wexford - 2hr 35
kilkenny - 1hr 51

talk about suiting your own........"]Ned Quinn is Kilkenny's representative on the Central Council (every county has a representative). He has been there just over 6 months, and you're saying he's dictating who plays where?"]he is also the chairman of the cccc.......who set the fixtures.....go figure my good man.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/07/2018 15:52:01    2120432

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Replying To perfect10:  "would you be saying how great it was if limerick kilkenny was fixed for sligo?because that is the equivalent.cross-country roads,and 3 hours from gorey and 2hr 40 from enniscorthy (where a huge amount of the wexford support is) to cork.
it is very easy to say its grand when it is not you discommoded."
Yes I would

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 10/07/2018 17:14:23    2120463

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "What two games are on in 'our county'?"
U20 football all Ireland semi final and U21 hurling b semi all Ireland final

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 10/07/2018 17:16:07    2120466

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Replying To perfect10:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=perfect10:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=perfect10:  "Anyway why was it not the Limerick/Kilkenny match that was fixed for Cork. Now I know Thurles is much more convenient to both counties. but large parts of West and South Limerick are nearing to Cork and the M8 runs from North West Kilkenny all the way to Cork, whereas the there is practically no part of Clare or Wexford that is closer to Cork than Thurles and the roads are poor from both counties to the Southern Capital.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1522 - 10/07/2018 09:37:04 2120277

sensible post as always by you oldtourman,i suppose nicky brennan was never going to drag kk to cork......suit his own first when making the fixtures.
i think that is the point,people don't seem to realise just how bad the location of pairc ui chaoimh is.an hour extra to get in or out,and then 3 hours home?"
Nicky Brennan making the fixtures? What are you on about?"
i meant ned quinn,sorry wrong kk man.

from google maps - time to thurles from each of the main county towns :
ennis - 1hr 23
limerick - 1hr 6
wexford - 2hr 6
kilkenny - FIFTY MINUTES

time to cork from each of the main county towns :
ennis - 2hr
limerick - 1hr 43
wexford - 2hr 35
kilkenny - 1hr 51

talk about suiting your own........"]Ned Quinn is Kilkenny's representative on the Central Council (every county has a representative). He has been there just over 6 months, and you're saying he's dictating who plays where?"]he is also the chairman of the cccc.......who set the fixtures.....go figure my good man."]I'll ask you again, Are you saying that Ned Quinn is deciding who plays where and when, and in doing so is favouring Kilkenny?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 10/07/2018 17:43:48    2120481

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "The only thing I'm surprised about is that both quarter finals are not in PUC. It's a bit late to be kicking up a fuss about it now. It was widely reported and well telegraphed that Cork County Board were going to lobby to have both qfs in PUC if Cork won the Munster hurling final. If ye think it's bad for Clare and Wexford it would have been much more inconvenient for Galway. That's one of a number of reasons why it was important for us to win the Leinster final yesterday and make sure we didn't have to face that possibility."
Galway had to play Clare in a minor quarter final there last year.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 10/07/2018 18:05:46    2120489

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