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Strange that two of our biggest finals take this place this weekend, and not a lot been said about either, do they really matter that little these days, and are they just a means to an end? Very hard to pick a winner in Munster, two very evenly matched teams, and you would not be one bit surprised to see either Cork or Clare win it? Galway will be expected to win Leinster, but no better team than Kilkenny to knock them off their perch, or will Galway be now ooking to do what Kilkenny did to them for years, and knock them over every opportunity they get? gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 26/06/2018 08:55:54 2115177 Link
Replying To gilly2308: "Strange that two of our biggest finals take this place this weekend, and not a lot been said about either, do they really matter that little these days, and are they just a means to an end? Very hard to pick a winner in Munster, two very evenly matched teams, and you would not be one bit surprised to see either Cork or Clare win it? Galway will be expected to win Leinster, but no better team than Kilkenny to knock them off their perch, or will Galway be now ooking to do what Kilkenny did to them for years, and knock them over every opportunity they get?" Clare and Cork is a toss of the coin but I hope it lands in our favour. Galway should win with a bit to spare but KK won't take it lying down. My only fear with Galway this year is there is savage expectation for them to clean up. Be interesting to reflect at the end of the year. It doesn't always go to script. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2472 - 26/06/2018 12:03:14 2115291 Link
I fancy Clare in Munster they have so much potential and their management have them back playing traditional hurling which is good to see. Their work rate and stick work Vs Tipp and Limerick was exceptional. Cork though after an in different league have surprised me to say the least. In the first game my view was that Clare would beat Cork but Rebels turned them over near the finish. They seem to be in and out of games a lot and Clare could hurt them in that period. Galway are under pressure I feel to deliver again this year and they have yet to be tested. Kilkenny look like they need a confidence boost and it wouldn't surprise me if they beat Galway on Sunday. Galway haven't conceded a lot in most of their games but Kilkenny have a new breed of players and are still a force to be reckoned with. Clare for Munster by 3 points. Kilkenny for Leinster by 4 points. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 26/06/2018 16:32:51 2115495 Link
Having lost to Cork in last years Munster final and again during the round robin this year, I expect Clare to be massively up for this one. There was nothing between the sides earlier on in the year and I can see it to playing out like that again on Sunday. It's genuinely 50/50 but I think the extra hunger of the Clare lads will probably see them over the line, although I hope i'm wrong. Difficult to look passed Galway in this one and indeed for the All Ireland. Only question mark is if they can handle the added pressure of going into the game with expectation rather than hope, but I imagine they'll have too much for a much changed KK side in the end. Expecting two excellent games whatever happens JohnnySquares (Cork) - Posts: 5 - 26/06/2018 16:57:14 2115510 Link
Cant see Galway being beaten. If they're at 70% they'll win by 6 points plus. I expect Cork to come through in Munster. All the hype is around Clare at the min and it's only my own feeling but I feel they are similar to Limerick in that it may be just hype and Cork will beat them. I think Cork have potenitally better forwards. Clare have scored well this year but I feel if Conlon is stopped and Kelly hits the hail mary efforts he sometimes does then I think Cork will come out on top. I'm still confused as to how O'Donnell is preferred over the likes of McGrath but mayeb I'm missing something. Cork are flying under the radar slightly but I'll go with them by 2-3 points. Either way at this point the Liam McCarthy will almost certainly be only heading up the M6 for a day in August and back down again on the Monday evening. That's a foregone concluson at this stage unfortunately. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/06/2018 17:29:56 2115529 Link
I think Cork have more hurling in them than Clare. As previously stated, if Conlon is stopped it will put a big dent in Clare's challenge. I'll go with Cork to win by 3 points. I think the Leinster final will be a tight enough game. KK will give it their all and will be at least 20% better than they were in Salthill. I'll go for Galway to win by 2 to 3 points. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 26/06/2018 17:59:14 2115539 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Cant see Galway being beaten. If they're at 70% they'll win by 6 points plus. I expect Cork to come through in Munster. All the hype is around Clare at the min and it's only my own feeling but I feel they are similar to Limerick in that it may be just hype and Cork will beat them. I think Cork have potenitally better forwards. Clare have scored well this year but I feel if Conlon is stopped and Kelly hits the hail mary efforts he sometimes does then I think Cork will come out on top. I'm still confused as to how O'Donnell is preferred over the likes of McGrath but mayeb I'm missing something. Cork are flying under the radar slightly but I'll go with them by 2-3 points. Either way at this point the Liam McCarthy will almost certainly be only heading up the M6 for a day in August and back down again on the Monday evening. That's a foregone concluson at this stage unfortunately." Cant see Galway being beaten. If they're at 70% they'll win by 6 points plus. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2394 - 26/06/2018 17:29:56 2115529 When has a team, of the quality of Galway, turned up for a Championship game, let alone a Provincial final, at less then or very near to 100%. Have Galway got a serious injury crisis? So going by your logic, Galway at 100%, should win by around 20 points plus. Galway are favourites, and deservedly so. But to say that at two thirds strength they'll easily beat Kilkenny sounds like the typical bitter Tipp supporter comment when it comes to Kilkenny ( and you have form on this), Away with you and concentrate on your own county's embarrassing and humiliating performance in this year's Championship. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 26/06/2018 19:58:48 2115582 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Cant see Galway being beaten. If they're at 70% they'll win by 6 points plus. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2394 - 26/06/2018 17:29:56 2115529 When has a team, of the quality of Galway, turned up for a Championship game, let alone a Provincial final, at less then or very near to 100%. Have Galway got a serious injury crisis? So going by your logic, Galway at 100%, should win by around 20 points plus. Galway are favourites, and deservedly so. But to say that at two thirds strength they'll easily beat Kilkenny sounds like the typical bitter Tipp supporter comment when it comes to Kilkenny ( and you have form on this), Away with you and concentrate on your own county's embarrassing and humiliating performance in this year's Championship." Firstly I'm not sure where you get your 20 points if Galway are at 100%. My logic behind this is based on a number of key KK players being not at 100% due to peace keeping duty and injuries. Galway are one of the few counites with a fully fit deck to pick from and are a team I expect to get better as the years goes on cosidering they started later than everyone else. There are numerous teams that have gone into provincial finals at a lot less than 100%. Your own team KK went in to the All Ireland in 2010 with two keys players with major injury concerns. Lastly, I come from an area right on the Galway border and no dis-repsect to the Galway posters here but Galway is the last county I'd be hoping to win an All Ireland so whatever evidence you have on "my form", please send it on! Your last line is plain childish. What has Tipp's performace got to with my opinion? I already expressed my opinion on their results. Have a look at the prediciton thread as well while you're at it. For the KK games I got all the correct margains of scores correct except for their game against Offaly where I predicted 11+ and they won by 9. The forum is about expressing an opinion. My prediction results on KK have backed up my opinions to date so get over the fact I'm from Tipp. Now away with you and concentrate on not putting up embarrasing and humiliating posts! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/06/2018 10:38:49 2115782 Link
Cant see Galway being beaten. If they're at 70% they'll win by 6 points plus. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2396 - 26/06/2018 17:29:56 2115529 Kilkenny were very lucky Galway were only at 50%. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 02/07/2018 19:06:37 2117879 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Cant see Galway being beaten. If they're at 70% they'll win by 6 points plus. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2396 - 26/06/2018 17:29:56 2115529 Kilkenny were very lucky Galway were only at 50%." I can't comment as I missed the game for personal reasons but I'll hold my hands up and say I got this one very wrong. I probably over estimated how good Galway are and defintely underestimated how good KK are. Cody truly is a genius. To bring 13/26 players to Croke Park for the first time in senior hurling and come away with a draw in a Leinster final is impressive for any county. Given that TJ has only scored 5 points in 5 games (from my calculations) and Richie Hogan has hardly played, KK can only improve and along with Cork are serious All Ireland contenders. Galway are going to see how hard it is to put back to backs now. KK will really fancy their chances in the replay but I'll stick to Galway...by a very tight margin this time! By the way, all opinions are my own. Don't let it upset you so much! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/07/2018 11:12:04 2118372 Link
Replying To tiobraid: " Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Cant see Galway being beaten. If they're at 70% they'll win by 6 points plus. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2396 - 26/06/2018 17:29:56 2115529 Kilkenny were very lucky Galway were only at 50%." I can't comment as I missed the game for personal reasons but I'll hold my hands up and say I got this one very wrong. I probably over estimated how good Galway are and defintely underestimated how good KK are. Cody truly is a genius. To bring 13/26 players to Croke Park for the first time in senior hurling and come away with a draw in a Leinster final is impressive for any county. Given that TJ has only scored 5 points in 5 games (from my calculations) and Richie Hogan has hardly played, KK can only improve and along with Cork are serious All Ireland contenders. Galway are going to see how hard it is to put back to backs now. KK will really fancy their chances in the replay but I'll stick to Galway...by a very tight margin this time! By the way, all opinions are my own. Don't let it upset you so much!" Fair comment. But I don't get upset at all by any comments on here; irritated by some, yes. Don't take it personally, I may deride and ridicule some comments on here (in some/most cases deservedly), but, most of the time my comments on here are stating facts or correcting others. plus harmless comment. That said, I will shoot from the hip at times, and post contentious comments. Plus at other times, I'll say something in jest, and it gets misconstrued, or lost in translation (I'm London reared), so to speak. No hard feelings tiobraid, I'm right behind you, and have you in my sights, in the Hurling Championship Prediction Thread. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 04/07/2018 19:02:34 2118595 Link
Last night's Leinster U21 final deserves more than a mention in a Provincial Hurling Finals thread. What a classic! Fortunes see-sawed throughout the game. Galway threatened to run away with it in the first 20 minutes ,then Wexford took complete control, Galway hung in and despite having a man sent off (for a reason unknown) went 3 points up, Wexford pull a draw out of the fire with a goal in injury time overtime (more controversy), in extra time Wexford appeared to have gained decisive control and went 4/5 points ahead, Galway brought it back to one point but appeared to have lost it with Rory O'Connor's magnificent point . Then unbelievably another twist with Blehane's goal in extra time injury time to win it for Galway. Probably the game of the year so far at all levels. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 05/07/2018 12:55:51 2118806 Link
an incredible game of hurling,but no consolation when on the losing side. absolutely gutted today. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 05/07/2018 13:57:21 2118822 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: " Replying To tiobraid: "[quote=Cockney_Cat: "Cant see Galway being beaten. If they're at 70% they'll win by 6 points plus. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2396 - 26/06/2018 17:29:56 2115529 Kilkenny were very lucky Galway were only at 50%." I can't comment as I missed the game for personal reasons but I'll hold my hands up and say I got this one very wrong. I probably over estimated how good Galway are and defintely underestimated how good KK are. Cody truly is a genius. To bring 13/26 players to Croke Park for the first time in senior hurling and come away with a draw in a Leinster final is impressive for any county. Given that TJ has only scored 5 points in 5 games (from my calculations) and Richie Hogan has hardly played, KK can only improve and along with Cork are serious All Ireland contenders. Galway are going to see how hard it is to put back to backs now. KK will really fancy their chances in the replay but I'll stick to Galway...by a very tight margin this time! By the way, all opinions are my own. Don't let it upset you so much!" Fair comment. But I don't get upset at all by any comments on here; irritated by some, yes. Don't take it personally, I may deride and ridicule some comments on here (in some/most cases deservedly), but, most of the time my comments on here are stating facts or correcting others. plus harmless comment. That said, I will shoot from the hip at times, and post contentious comments. Plus at other times, I'll say something in jest, and it gets misconstrued, or lost in translation (I'm London reared), so to speak. No hard feelings tiobraid, I'm right behind you, and have you in my sights, in the Hurling Championship Prediction Thread."]Glad we made up! Considering our counties arent really rivals anymore there no point falling out! :-( Non-rivals apart from the prediction thread....where if KK win this weekend the gap will be nearly non existent! Fighting for a runners up spot in that at this stage i'm afraid to say! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 05/07/2018 14:07:21 2118827 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Last night's Leinster U21 final deserves more than a mention in a Provincial Hurling Finals thread. What a classic! Fortunes see-sawed throughout the game. Galway threatened to run away with it in the first 20 minutes ,then Wexford took complete control, Galway hung in and despite having a man sent off (for a reason unknown) went 3 points up, Wexford pull a draw out of the fire with a goal in injury time overtime (more controversy), in extra time Wexford appeared to have gained decisive control and went 4/5 points ahead, Galway brought it back to one point but appeared to have lost it with Rory O'Connor's magnificent point . Then unbelievably another twist with Blehane's goal in extra time injury time to win it for Galway. Probably the game of the year so far at all levels." Certainly the U21 cship is the one that keeps serving up the best games. You could watch the type of hurling Galway and Wexford played all night every night. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 05/07/2018 14:42:06 2118841 Link