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Tiered Football Championship Needed

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Replying To omahant:  "I think you could have it both ways !
Have two Conferences of 16 (A & B) - each Conf with half of each NFL div.
Each team in Conf A plays those in B - BUT each team plays 12 of 16 only in the other Conf (Div 1v4 and 2v3 are avoided).
After 12 matches per team, top 6 in each Conf join 4 Prov KO Champs (played separately) advance to AIC KO Rd of 16 (Champs advancing twice get byes to AI KO QFs instead).
Tell me - what is better than this ? !"
I don't like this one.

There's an unequal schedule that makes it beneficial for teams to tank at the end of a season to get an easier schedule for the following season.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 30/06/2018 01:38:19    2116813

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Replying To Whammo86:  "I don't like this one.

There's an unequal schedule that makes it beneficial for teams to tank at the end of a season to get an easier schedule for the following season."
Would teams still prefer to tank than strive to qualify for a Tier 2 title - say 7th to 12th (or to 14th) in KO Last 12 (or 16) ?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 01/07/2018 14:01:52    2117185

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For the 'GPA 8x4 with a Twist' idea - seed counties based on NFL 12-12-8.
Top 12 - allocate 3 openly to each of 4 groups of 4.
Low 8 - allocate 2 openly to each of 4 pools of 4.
Mid 12 - allocate 1 or 2 to complete groups/pools.

8x Top 3 to AI KO 24.
AI KO 16 pairings =
4x Group 1sts host 4x (Pool 2nds or Group 3rds).
4x Group 2nds host 4x (Pool 1sts or Pool 3rds).

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 01/07/2018 14:22:59    2117187

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I would tweak that KO - Group 1sts v (Pool 1sts or 3rds) instead, so Group winners are guaranteed a Pool / non-Top 12 opponent in the Rd of 16 (Group 2nds v Pool 2nds or Griup 3rds instead).

Also, I would ramdomise the KO pairings so teams cannot target certain KO opponents (e.g. the loser of Bel Eng arguably went to easier half of the draw).
How I'd randomise - initially label 4 groups A, B, C, D, but at end of group phase, re-label for KO to 1, 2, 3, 4. Say, asign group with best 3rd placed finisher to group 1 - 2nd best 3rd to group 2 etc - so, e.g. C,B,D,A could become 1,2,3,4.
Do the same with 4 pools - best 3rd to Pool 1.
Rd of 16 as follows (and full KO is also set)-
1st Group 1 v (1st Pool 1 or 3rd Pool 4)
2nd Group 2 v (2nd Pool 2 or 3rd Group 3)
1st Group 3 v (1st Pool 3 or 3rd Pool 2)
2nd Group 4 v (2nd Pool 4 or 3rd Group 1).
2nd Group 1 v (2nd Pool 1 or 3rd Group 4)
1st Group 2 v (1st Pool 2 or 3rd Pool 3)
2nd Group 3 v (2nd Pool 3 or 3rd Group 2)
1st Group 4 v (1st Pool 4 or 3rd Pool 1).

Repeat pairings avoided before AI SFs.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 01/07/2018 17:50:35    2117285

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