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Again totally agree. I hope he dedicates more articles to it. Jesus some of the things that goes on is swept under the carpet is a disgrace. And I call on everyone who knows the nudge and a wink politics to stand up to it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/06/2018 08:21:14 2109707 Link 1 |
I'm not religious but I know 2 priests very well, one would be a close family friend. They are excellent upstanding men. Does that mean the papers shouldn't go after the bad ones?? Nonsensical to equate cause there is thousands of good people involved in it that the way we cover up for the bad ones shouldn't be exposed.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/06/2018 08:27:33 2109709 Link 1 |
And here is the problem we persistently come up against. This attitude is what is causing issues within gaa.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/06/2018 08:30:30 2109710 Link 2 |
In fairness the reason people are normally elected unopposed is no one wants the job. If you put in a 2 year time limit for club executive. You would have no one to fill these positions. Not to mention the amount of skill and experience you would lose.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 11/06/2018 08:46:47 2109716 Link 1 |
You are correct and Paul should continue to sort out his own sport where there is still lots going on. He's paid to generate a story and a good headline helps to sell.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 11/06/2018 09:33:28 2109735 Link 1 |
Wow, when i see some of what written here it's just propagating exactly what Kimmage is talking about...Nothing to see here ..move on. ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 540 - 11/06/2018 09:47:47 2109746 Link 2 |
He's a born and bred Dub. He has as much right to discuss the GAA as anyone in this country.
extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 11/06/2018 11:52:59 2109862 Link 0 |
Believe it or not, I am comparing "like for like". Go to places like Flanders or the north of Spain, cycling is massive, followed with an almost religious devotion. Like hurling in Kilkenny, or football in Kerry, for example. Even in some places in Ireland, I'm sure you'll find cycling clubs with members as devoted to their sport as anyone in any GAA, soccer, rugby, basketball, athletics, or any other differing sports club. For sure, doping is an issue at the top end of cycling, and to a lesser extent further down the sport aswell. But nobody involved in cycling is in denial about that. But here's a question for you. If any leading GAA journalist did an article on cheating or any organisational misdemeanors in Irish cycling, do you think it would be the correct response of the Irish cycling community to demand more "balanced" and upbeat articles on cycling? Also, should cycling fans dismiss said article on the basis it wasn't created by a "cyclist" journalist, regardless of the quality of the content in the article? extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 11/06/2018 12:57:14 2109917 Link 0 |
He's a sports journalist (and a good one at that), is he only allowed to cover cycling? Come on now...
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 11/06/2018 13:04:28 2109919 Link 1 |
We're looking at his articles with our GAA filter on. Would probably be different story to read if he was writing about soccer, rugby, cycling, golf etc. This could be worse in other sports, it could be better too. We don't know that. Only a few weeks ago a GAA club coach was in the headlines and is now forgotten about. Irish swimming had it's own abuse scandals and would have been buried if some had refused to be silenced. The soccer coach in England was eventually jailed after some men, who had been through turmoil for years, spoke out and were eventually believed. 100% be proud of the great organisation that is the GAA. But if you hear whispers within it or other sports or beyond don't ignore them thinking sure he/she is sound and no way would they do that. Always better being safe than sorry. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 11/06/2018 14:52:29 2109980 Link 2 |
But the question remains, If these were in Rugby clubs would he have wrote the story Yes. A quick Google search of Kimmage will tell you that. And he's about the only journalist who's even attempting to bring the rugby authorities to task for doping problems in the sport. Ok, but his attack on the GAA is not on one subject, it's on several. On last Sunday's piece he did the "please think of the children" line about Lee Keegan throwing his GPS. A subject that had died 2 weeks after last years All Ireland Final. Also the subject of last Sunday's piece seemed to be that a fella was reluctant so say he'd thumped someone and got sent off. No wonder this piece was (mercifully) only ¾ of a page. Kimmage is down on GAA. I don't believe he is, and I posted a link earlier to an article he wrote a few years ago which would support that. That article was 2 and a half years ago and was about Kimmage's favourite player from the 70's. So it was an article about nostalgia, not about the GAA. He just wants all sports to be as doomed as cycling Have you any evidence to back up your claims it's doomed, or is it just a sport you neither care for or understand? Seriously, are you living on the moon? I think he expected the Athenry story to explode I don't think he really did. The sensationalist headlines are purely down to the editor, not the journalist. Bad luck, but one of the last paragraph of this week's hatchet job was Kimmage bemoaning the fact that the Athenry and O'Dwyer's stories had got zero traction with the national media This was even after both got 2 page spreads on the biggest selling Sunday paper in the country. You know why there was no media reaction? It wasn't because the GAA "got to" every media presence in Ireland and beyond, it's because no one cares. If either case were in Monaghan, I would care, especially if they were at my club. But they are not, so I, and obviously thousands like me, read it and forgot about it. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 11/06/2018 15:14:44 2109999 Link 1 |