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Meath V Tyrone

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Replying To Brolly:  "How did they miss the 4 goal chances, 12+ wides and 3/4 off upright, with 3/4 key players out? Very lucky indeed."
Stats like that don't win games , it's what's goes into the goals and over the bar that counts, it's a panel game so other lads should step it up , , but really the decision at the end not to give free to Meath was ludicrous

topdownfan (Down) - Posts: 542 - 09/06/2018 22:44:55    2109168

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Replying To Bon:  "The only people that were robbed were us at home waiting for the Hurling to start and had to endure extra time of that drivel and miss the first 25 mins of Kilkenny and Wexford."
Bon as a Kildare supporter I'm not surprised you were watching hurling.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 929 - 09/06/2018 22:54:13    2109177

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I was at the game but I haven't seen it back so it's hard to conclusively comment on the decisions the ref made. I thought some important decisions did go against us (looked like a free at the end) but look that's the game, and furthermore the game was in our hands but we couldn't put it away, 100% not the ref's fault in that regard.

On McEntee giving the ref abuse, I can't condone that, now it's genuinely nice to see such passion for Meath football, but abusing an offical is not the correct way of going about it.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 7911 - 09/06/2018 23:00:11    2109181

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Replying To Bon:  "The only people that were robbed were us at home waiting for the Hurling to start and had to endure extra time of that drivel and miss the first 25 mins of Kilkenny and Wexford."
There there, chin up chief

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 7911 - 09/06/2018 23:02:30    2109182

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Some people need to get over themselves. He went over to remestrate with the red after the trip was ignored. And he was robbed of at least another ten mins extra time. Bloody disgrace. Andy has taken dogs abuse from some so called Meath fans. He was bloody right and if many could have got out of stand Andy would have been least of the Rossies worries."
Well said Royaldunne. I dont complain about referees but was he serious.

That said, Tyrone's wastefulness in front of goal could have seen us off earlier in match

David (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 09/06/2018 23:08:43    2109187

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Replying To westkerry:  "Difference being Waterford were not eliminated.
Meath were robbed this evening, They faced a superior team and pushed them all the way.
They have every right to feel agrieved, Mcentee strikes me as a fair guy and out of character to loose it unless it warranted it."
Don't get me wrong I understand why he was aggrieved. I was enraged myself, but I was more angry at our inability to close the game out in normal time. That's what McEntee should be really frustrated about. Why the team can't defend a one point lead against a 14 man team with only 30 seconds left is the thing he should be really angry about. Be enraged all you like just deal with it in the dressing room and on the training field, don't throw a tantrum in public.

Also it's not unusual for McEntee to get very worked up. I've seen him bawl referees out of it before. I'm happy he has the right passion for the job, just needs to contain himself a bit better at certain times.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 98 - 09/06/2018 23:09:25    2109188

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Replying To westkerry:  "Difference being Waterford were not eliminated.
Meath were robbed this evening, They faced a superior team and pushed them all the way.
They have every right to feel agrieved, Mcentee strikes me as a fair guy and out of character to loose it unless it warranted it."
Excellent impartial viewpoint.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13741 - 09/06/2018 23:09:48    2109189

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "I heard bits from the end of the first half and the extra time on the radio, didn't see any of the game. Banty reckoned the ref did Meath no favours. I can see people's point on Andy McEntee complaining to the ref at the end. But I don't agree with them. He's shown some passion and anger about the result and it means something to him and his players even if they should have put more on the scoreboard. Meath underage is looking up. Hopefully this incident blows over very quickly. It'd be an awful shame for a few geese in the county board pay heed to the likes of Twitter and put McEntee's job under pressure."
It's up to Andy , if he wants to continue I'm sure they will let him. But it's up to him.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13741 - 09/06/2018 23:11:24    2109190

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I agree with westkerry, seriously hard luck Meath.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6903 - 09/06/2018 23:37:06    2109200

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Replying To topdownfan:  "Honestly can't believe how lucky Tyrone where tonight, typical of them , how was canavagh not given a black card , how where Meath not given a penalty , how was that not a free in at the end for Meath ,,, really feel for Meath , let's just hope the draw isn't to kind to Tyrone"
yes and how did the ref not play advantage for tyrone at the end when they had two men clean through on goal??..ifs buts and maybes don't win anything....suck it up

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1548 - 09/06/2018 23:58:33    2109208

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Replying To topdownfan:  "Stats like that don't win games , it's what's goes into the goals and over the bar that counts, it's a panel game so other lads should step it up , , but really the decision at the end not to give free to Meath was ludicrous"
I agree, and the stats meant that Tyrone still won. The qualifiers are all about getting over the line - Harte will be loving the talk about his team now.. If they get decent draw in next round they will be very dangerous.
Hats off to Meath, those lads emptied the tank for their team and management and were so close, out of championship but pride restored nonetheless.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4451 - 09/06/2018 23:59:00    2109209

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Replying To westkerry:  "Difference being Waterford were not eliminated.
Meath were robbed this evening, They faced a superior team and pushed them all the way.
They have every right to feel agrieved, Mcentee strikes me as a fair guy and out of character to loose it unless it warranted it."
I'm with you. Did not see the second period of extra time so don't really know what happened in the end. It was obviously passion that drove him. He has gone up in my estimation after today. No accountability in anything nowadays.

Not getting at Tyrone here but Meath were the better team in normal time and had the referee got all his decisions right they would have won. He was a factor in the result. Was a stone wall penalty and is the black card finished with? Don't know what the Meath player was sent off for (second yellow)?? was that to try and justify a poor decision

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 625 - 10/06/2018 00:22:13    2109216

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Replying To topdownfan:  "Stats like that don't win games , it's what's goes into the goals and over the bar that counts, it's a panel game so other lads should step it up , , but really the decision at the end not to give free to Meath was ludicrous"
Thanks for your concern about Tyrones wastefulness in front of goal, but I really think you should hope that Donegal are just as wasteful against yourselves, referee made plenty of ludicrous decisions against both teams, but then again in your eyes any decision Tyrone seem to get is more ludicrous than any other. You really wanna let things go and lighen up, life's too short

Dergforeeva (Tyrone) - Posts: 88 - 10/06/2018 00:23:33    2109218

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I didn't see the game but wasn't surprised at all it was so close. Meath have great pedigree and are always capable of putting on a show on their own patch. Tyrone are poor and badly need new direction in how they play and they approach games. In fact Ulster football in general is dire at the minute. The skill and naturally talented players are being stifled in this muscle man, defensive, crab like 'football'. It's bloody awful if we are being honest and no wonder the fans are staying away.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9098 - 10/06/2018 00:25:42    2109220

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Replying To Brolly:  "How did they miss the 4 goal chances, 12+ wides and 3/4 off upright, with 3/4 key players out? Very lucky indeed."
Oh would you stop 'Brolly' with the absolute nonsense and made up 'stats' Tyrone had two goal chances which were brilliantly saved and one correctly called for a free out. Meath also had two goal chances in that period of not as clear cut and I don't know how many efforts we dropped short or passed the ball away to a Tyrone Player. And DO NOT get me started on the poor refereeing

Meathmadlad (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 10/06/2018 01:11:18    2109228

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Replying To HighKings:  "I can't see Tyrone playing that badly again. Their shooting was awful and the defensive was very passive which is particularly unusual for Tyrone.

Colm Cavanagh played the whole game even though he clearly has some sort of injury and Peter Harte will help improve things too.

From Meath's point of view we really need a Colm Cavanagh style player who understands how to quarterback a defensive system. We're bringing numbers point but after that we have no real system in place. Tyrone should have scored a number of goals.

Midfield was our strongest sector today.

The attack did well at times but I think a part of that was towards lack of intensity in defensive.

Overall I'm completely devastated. I still don't believe we are progressing. How we couldn't win the game in normal time was hard to believe, Tyrone offered it to us on a plate. McEntee needs to bring in a coach alongside him who really understands the modern game. We need to have a five year plan in place and to focus on the young lads coming through.

We badly needed that win, it will hurt for a long, long time.

Best of luck to Tyrone going forward."
highking this is always the Tyrone play the lack of a settled free taker (ok Lee is injured) since or groly days has been our down fall on more that 1 occasion, under the present system of denfence before attack by the time a forward gets a shot away he is wreaked from running the whole way form his own 45 and the hits it wide or drops it short fact is we no long have the top forwards needed to win on our team or if they are they are starved off possession Ronan o Neill showed tonight we need to trust him and our forwards more his run for the goal in et was the winning of the match
how many off the goal chances would the dubs or Kerry missed that we did this evening
the forward I would have on my team everyday from tonight was the Meath no 10 ( with the ponytail) skillfull and and eye for a score top class forward Meath had a point to prove after Longford I think they show signs tonight the are on the way back

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 143 - 10/06/2018 01:32:14    2109231

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Is it just me or was the ref not terrible for both teams? I know the final decision went against Meath but there was numerous occasions were Tyrone failed to get an obvious free or where the advantage rule was not applied when they were straight through on goal.

lambofgod (Mayo) - Posts: 74 - 10/06/2018 07:26:03    2109245

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Replying To topdownfan:  "Honestly can't believe how lucky Tyrone where tonight, typical of them , how was canavagh not given a black card , how where Meath not given a penalty , how was that not a free in at the end for Meath ,,, really feel for Meath , let's just hope the draw isn't to kind to Tyrone"
Typical Tyrone, winning again even though most Tyrone fans cant bear the management and team set up. Typical Down....ermm typical Down going nowhere.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1248 - 10/06/2018 08:20:35    2109252

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I don't make it to Limerick because of work so saw the second half of this game and ET with he volume down and true Mayo game on the radio.

Tyrone wasteful and Meath showed fight I didn't think they had. Brennan stupid to get sent off and yeah Meath possiblynshoild have had a free in for a push but they really should have held on in normal time. Ice cool point for he equalizer form Tyrone.

I'll admit I was hoping Meath would win not because I dislike Tyrone but to see Sean Cavanagh reaction

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9231 - 10/06/2018 09:27:22    2109267

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Good performance by Meath and were unlucky not to win it. Cillian O'Sullivan in particular was very good I thought.

For Tyrone best performances I'd say were Mc Shane, Mc Nulty, Mc Aliskey and Burns.

Felt for the referee at the end. He probably did make a mistake not giving Meath the last free but everyone on the field made a few mistakes.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 660 - 10/06/2018 09:32:08    2109269

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