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Meath V Tyrone

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Parc Tailteann isnt much to write home about to be fair. And by the sounds of it you are going to need a bit off therapy. Maybe give a call to RoyalDunne, you might get a 2 for 1 offer ;)"
No therapy required apart from a healthy dose of underage football in the weeks ahead and as for Pairc Tailteann well see the reply I gave to the Louth man, the next time your in Navan we should have much changed surroundings for ye to enjoy....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3154 - 11/06/2018 19:00:42    2110189

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look you got your undeserved win. Take it and move along. As for pt? Well since it was likely last championship game there before our new 40,000 all seater stadium is built I think the old girl did us proud, particularly the best playing surface in country. She bowed out with grace and winning, but like the Meath team, we won but we didn't.
And I've been to Omagh, let's just say you are not in any position to criticize navan.
Hon the royal."
"We won but didn't"
Il just leave that one there

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1197 - 11/06/2018 19:56:12    2110206

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Think it's time to let this thread die.

I'm still hurting from the loss but that's sport. Overall the two teams put on a really exciting entertaining game which was played in the right spirit. Football gets a lot of criticism these days but that was an honest exciting game with some good scores and plenty of tension and drama right until the end.

The ref made mistakes for both teams but the guy is only human and referring is a hard job.

We're out of the championship and Tyrone move on and alls I can say is best of luck to them.

We need to keep focusing on the underage and use this game as a building block.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 93 - 11/06/2018 20:20:37    2110213

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Some of the comments on here about Meath not closing out the game in normal time is over the top. For all the talk of Tyrone's game management had the referee given the obvious free at the end of they probably would have let a 4 point lead slip in the final 10 minutes.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 428 - 11/06/2018 20:30:35    2110217

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Some of the comments on here about Meath not closing out the game in normal time is over the top. For all the talk of Tyrone's game management had the referee given the obvious free at the end of they probably would have let a 4 point lead slip in the final 10 minutes."
Who would have hit the free with Brennan sent off? Would have been a tough free into the wond 40 meters out wasnt a gimme.

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 828 - 11/06/2018 20:58:30    2110229

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "Who would have hit the free with Brennan sent off? Would have been a tough free into the wond 40 meters out wasnt a gimme."
Lenihane.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13570 - 11/06/2018 21:17:18    2110240

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look you got your undeserved win. Take it and move along. As for pt? Well since it was likely last championship game there before our new 40,000 all seater stadium is built I think the old girl did us proud, particularly the best playing surface in country. She bowed out with grace and winning, but like the Meath team, we won but we didn't.
And I've been to Omagh, let's just say you are not in any position to criticize navan.
Hon the royal."
Take your beating like a man and move on RD. Your posts are making a mokery of all Meath fans. The game is over, unfortunately we lost and we can now focus on U17/U20's this year.

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 806 - 11/06/2018 22:08:46    2110268

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Replying To HighKings:  "Think it's time to let this thread die.

I'm still hurting from the loss but that's sport. Overall the two teams put on a really exciting entertaining game which was played in the right spirit. Football gets a lot of criticism these days but that was an honest exciting game with some good scores and plenty of tension and drama right until the end.

The ref made mistakes for both teams but the guy is only human and referring is a hard job.

We're out of the championship and Tyrone move on and alls I can say is best of luck to them.

We need to keep focusing on the underage and use this game as a building block."
Fully agree, we read many essays about Meath tradition and history on here, one tradition we can keep alive is taking our beating and stop moaning about a ref that was poor for both sides. Great news about our 40,000 stadium.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 1038 - 11/06/2018 22:13:42    2110274

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Time to build a bridge lads and get over it. Such a load of whining from a county that didn't care a hoot in years gone by when decisions went their way. What was it we were all told? Oh yes. Suck it up and go away and be good boys...time to practice what you preach

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1462 - 11/06/2018 22:19:02    2110278

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It's not quite two bald men fighting over a comb, but near enough. Tyrone were seemingly going well last year, and Dublin ran rings round them. This year, with injuries, absentees and morale slipping, they're some way off where they need to be. Fermanagh could teach us how to defend. There might be a miracle over the next couple weeks, but I can't see it. Tyrone are not serious challengers for Sam. And Meath are in the same bracket. So getting wound up about the weekend's game is not only petty, it doesn't even make much sense. Meath have a good spirit and some aspects of their play are good, but reality is both squads need more work and a minor miracle before they're fit to be considered at the top table.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 435 - 11/06/2018 22:38:38    2110297

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Replying To RoylerKing:  "Take your beating like a man and move on RD. Your posts are making a mokery of all Meath fans. The game is over, unfortunately we lost and we can now focus on U17/U20's this year."
Does any of the Meath fans know RD and confiscate his keyboard - or at least get his parents to do it. Embarassing for most good Meath fans - thought he was only joking at the start but the more I read the more I think he's actually believing what he's saying and typing!!!

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1036 - 11/06/2018 23:06:15    2110319

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Replying To RoylerKing:  "Take your beating like a man and move on RD. Your posts are making a mokery of all Meath fans. The game is over, unfortunately we lost and we can now focus on U17/U20's this year."
Your not even a Meath man , so don't worry about what I write.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13570 - 12/06/2018 07:32:30    2110356

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Very seldom do I give out about refs or officials because rarely have I seen one cock up as bad as last Saturday. Now before I continue let me state the following;

1) Meath execution of certain things wasn't what it should have been, yes they should have seen the game out in normal time and yes they should have extended the one point lead

2) Yes the referee made bad calls for both sides, that was clearly visible and acknowledged

But the decision at the end, in my view, is unforgivable and I don't feel pathetic in any way shape or form for criticising an inter county referee who did not have the ability to call a blatant foul not 5 yards in front of him. Should McEntee have reacted the way he did, no he shouldn't, do I blame him? No because he, and his players, have parked their lives for two years to try and bring this team back up the ladder and a win on Saturday night, just like last year v Donegal, would have been a huge boost and the type of win this Meath team so desperately needs to progress itself. Yes Meath can look at themselves and things they should or shouldn't have done but as McEntee said afterwards players will pay the price for their mistakes, what price will the referee pay for his mistakes?? Each incident, a bad wide, a poor tackle, a misplaced pass etc will be judged and the influence of those incidents are discussed in the context of the game, you can recover and make amends for such errors but a referees mistake can be fatal to any team and an error like the one last Saturday night, like the one in Thurles the week before, is in my view unforgivable in 2018. Given the efforts that players and management put in nowadays getting clear basic calls like that right has to be a given, I accept mistakes can be made due to obstructed view or miscommunication or mistake of identity or being too far behind the play but there were no such influences in this decision. The only reason Meath weren't awarded that free at the end is because of incompetence, panic or fear, or just old fashioned bias in the part of the referee, I hope the latter is not the case, and that is not acceptable nowadays. I travel from Donegal to every Meath match I can, I was in Thurles and Roscommon for league matches and Longford just over two weeks back and I can accept us being beaten when it's our fault, down to playing badly or making our own mistakes etc no problem whatsoever, I've got used to it, but I cannot and will not accept us suffering losing a chance to equalise the game and go into further extra time because the referee couldn't blow the whistle for one of the most straight forward and simplest decisions he had to make all day.
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3134 - 11/06/2018 15:48:41


You've never seen a cock up as bad? Go way outta that.

It happens in every game ever played man. It was a mistake. They happen and they always will happen. There isn't some utopian future where the referee will get every single call correct. It is impossible. Some will be worse than others. Every player, manager and supporter knows that before the ball is thrown in there will be errors by players, managers and referees during the game. It is part and parcel of the game.

Unforgivable stuff? Come on. It happens and will happen in every single game. You get some and you don't get others. Was it unforgivable when the ref called back play with 2 Tyrone men bearing down on goal? Or any other time that Meath benefited on Saturday night? If one decision is unforgivable then all must be supposedly. That's the logical conclusion of your argument. You can't hang the result on one decision, every single decision is part of changing the game and teams must react to that.

He got the call wrong. He's human. You don't know exactly what he saw or didn't see. He's not incompetent, he's not biased, he's not panicky or fearful. He's human. Got it wrong. Simple as that.

You won't accept the losing because of refereeing errors. My God! Will you except Meath winning because of them?

In every game ever played there have been refereeing errors. Do you not accept the results of any game every played so?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 11769 - 12/06/2018 08:21:25    2110366

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "Who would have hit the free with Brennan sent off? Would have been a tough free into the wond 40 meters out wasnt a gimme."
Was no gimme but the point I was making is Tyrone from a winning position almost let it slip (4 points up at half time in extra time), had the ref given the free at the end Meath would have had a 40 free to draw the match. People are judging Meath differently for letting a one point lead slip at the end than they would have done with Tyrone. Also in fairness to Tyrone, their last point to draw the match in normal time was a very good kick from a long way out.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 428 - 12/06/2018 10:18:09    2110413

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Replying To Richieq:  "Yes I am in a position for the following reasons;

1) We own a county ground
2) We have full planning permission for a complete redevelopment to begin this October

And dont worry you'll see plenty of the redevelopment stadium, it'll be your home from home so to speak, we look forward to ye stimulating the Meath economy for years to come....."
You are in no position.

Come back when your proposed developments are all done and paid for cause only then will you be in a position to boast about a county ground and that you own it.....I doubt it very much that you or I will still be around should that day arrive.

THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 1938 - 12/06/2018 14:03:36    2110521

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Very seldom do I give out about refs or officials because rarely have I seen one cock up as bad as last Saturday. Now before I continue let me state the following;

1) Meath execution of certain things wasn't what it should have been, yes they should have seen the game out in normal time and yes they should have extended the one point lead

2) Yes the referee made bad calls for both sides, that was clearly visible and acknowledged

But the decision at the end, in my view, is unforgivable and I don't feel pathetic in any way shape or form for criticising an inter county referee who did not have the ability to call a blatant foul not 5 yards in front of him. Should McEntee have reacted the way he did, no he shouldn't, do I blame him? No because he, and his players, have parked their lives for two years to try and bring this team back up the ladder and a win on Saturday night, just like last year v Donegal, would have been a huge boost and the type of win this Meath team so desperately needs to progress itself. Yes Meath can look at themselves and things they should or shouldn't have done but as McEntee said afterwards players will pay the price for their mistakes, what price will the referee pay for his mistakes?? Each incident, a bad wide, a poor tackle, a misplaced pass etc will be judged and the influence of those incidents are discussed in the context of the game, you can recover and make amends for such errors but a referees mistake can be fatal to any team and an error like the one last Saturday night, like the one in Thurles the week before, is in my view unforgivable in 2018. Given the efforts that players and management put in nowadays getting clear basic calls like that right has to be a given, I accept mistakes can be made due to obstructed view or miscommunication or mistake of identity or being too far behind the play but there were no such influences in this decision. The only reason Meath weren't awarded that free at the end is because of incompetence, panic or fear, or just old fashioned bias in the part of the referee, I hope the latter is not the case, and that is not acceptable nowadays. I travel from Donegal to every Meath match I can, I was in Thurles and Roscommon for league matches and Longford just over two weeks back and I can accept us being beaten when it's our fault, down to playing badly or making our own mistakes etc no problem whatsoever, I've got used to it, but I cannot and will not accept us suffering losing a chance to equalise the game and go into further extra time because the referee couldn't blow the whistle for one of the most straight forward and simplest decisions he had to make all day.
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3134 - 11/06/2018 15:48:41


You've never seen a cock up as bad? Go way outta that.

It happens in every game ever played man. It was a mistake. They happen and they always will happen. There isn't some utopian future where the referee will get every single call correct. It is impossible. Some will be worse than others. Every player, manager and supporter knows that before the ball is thrown in there will be errors by players, managers and referees during the game. It is part and parcel of the game.

Unforgivable stuff? Come on. It happens and will happen in every single game. You get some and you don't get others. Was it unforgivable when the ref called back play with 2 Tyrone men bearing down on goal? Or any other time that Meath benefited on Saturday night? If one decision is unforgivable then all must be supposedly. That's the logical conclusion of your argument. You can't hang the result on one decision, every single decision is part of changing the game and teams must react to that.

He got the call wrong. He's human. You don't know exactly what he saw or didn't see. He's not incompetent, he's not biased, he's not panicky or fearful. He's human. Got it wrong. Simple as that.

You won't accept the losing because of refereeing errors. My God! Will you except Meath winning because of them?

In every game ever played there have been refereeing errors. Do you not accept the results of any game every played so?"
I've given my opinion and I stand by it........

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3154 - 12/06/2018 16:03:34    2110585

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Replying To THE_SNAPPER:  "You are in no position.

Come back when your proposed developments are all done and paid for cause only then will you be in a position to boast about a county ground and that you own it.....I doubt it very much that you or I will still be around should that day arrive."
We own it now and will always own it and it's because we own it that we will be getting funding from Leinster and Central Councils on a phased basis to redevelop the place, Louth can not get funding because they don't own the Gaelic Grounds but we in Meath will happily facilitate your requirements for as long as you need, we are neighbours after all....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3154 - 12/06/2018 16:07:53    2110588

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Replying To Richieq:  "We own it now and will always own it and it's because we own it that we will be getting funding from Leinster and Central Councils on a phased basis to redevelop the place, Louth can not get funding because they don't own the Gaelic Grounds but we in Meath will happily facilitate your requirements for as long as you need, we are neighbours after all...."
Just for the season that's in it.
Game , set , and match to Richie'q

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13570 - 12/06/2018 17:09:06    2110623

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Just for the season that's in it.
Game , set , and match to Richie'q"
Another childish comment. It's people like you that give Meath supporters a bad name.

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 806 - 12/06/2018 17:52:08    2110650

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Definitely time to park this it was very disappointing to lose on Saturday but heartening to see that all may be not as bad as we thought. The ref a few mistakes and obviously should've been a free at the and maybe should have blown for the end of the game in normal time but I don't for a minute believe it was done on purpose or due to incompetence. Good luck to Tyrone for the rest of the championship and well done to everyone in a Meath jersey on Saturday who gave everything they had to try and advance

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 158 - 12/06/2018 18:38:28    2110675

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