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Meath V Tyrone

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Do or die for both.
I think navan will swing it in Meath favor.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13849 - 30/05/2018 17:16:33    2105685

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Do or die for both.
I think navan will swing it in Meath favor."
I don't think so royaldunne. They're better than ye.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 4880 - 30/05/2018 17:44:10    2105692

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Tyrone win.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 12958 - 30/05/2018 17:57:42    2105694

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Do or die for both.
I think navan will swing it in Meath favor."
I really hope you are right and I think you are. Seems to be stuff going on with the Tyrone team to shift the current management out.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 30/05/2018 17:58:26    2105696

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Do or die for both.
I think navan will swing it in Meath favor."
Aye, but love is blind.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 1800 - 30/05/2018 18:01:32    2105697

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Replying To waynoI:  "Tyrone win."
Maybe

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 7937 - 30/05/2018 18:06:44    2105698

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Replying To mon07:  "I really hope you are right and I think you are. Seems to be stuff going on with the Tyrone team to shift the current management out."
As I said both teams are in the doldrums. I can't speak for Tyrone, but Meath are flying in training, everyone playing for management, then on the field when it counts they seem to for want of a better word , freeze . It is time to use the pot or get off it, and what better place to do that with a home game a passionate roaring crowd and and a team who are a top team. If that doesn't light fire in the Meath bellies , nothing will. I said it before and I'll say it again, one day this Meath team is gonna do what the can and are doing in training, this has to be it.
Narrow Meath win.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13849 - 30/05/2018 18:24:57    2105704

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Replying To Htaem:  "Maybe"
Maybe not :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13849 - 30/05/2018 18:25:27    2105705

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Replying To royaldunne:  "As I said both teams are in the doldrums. I can't speak for Tyrone, but Meath are flying in training, everyone playing for management, then on the field when it counts they seem to for want of a better word , freeze . It is time to use the pot or get off it, and what better place to do that with a home game a passionate roaring crowd and and a team who are a top team. If that doesn't light fire in the Meath bellies , nothing will. I said it before and I'll say it again, one day this Meath team is gonna do what the can and are doing in training, this has to be it.
Narrow Meath win."
It is very hard for players to keep lifting themselves up to go for another campaign when you know at the end of it you will meet Dublin in croke park to get a lesson. I think Meath and also Kildare are doing the correct thing by going the back door route. They will have a better chance in getting to the super 8 while picking up confidence along the way. Getting a beating by Dublin is not the best preparation for the next game you have to play before making the super 8.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 30/05/2018 19:00:55    2105712

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I know of a lad who has the inside track on Meath and they've been burning up the gallops lately. He reckons if they can put their best foot forward and deliver on the potential they've been showing in Dunganny then they will win.

Toney (Meath) - Posts: 283 - 30/05/2018 19:13:19    2105714

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Replying To Toney:  "I know of a lad who has the inside track on Meath and they've been burning up the gallops lately. He reckons if they can put their best foot forward and deliver on the potential they've been showing in Dunganny then they will win."
In all seriousness, this Meath team are going nowhere fast. It's the worst in living memory. Tyrone should have enough to win even with their injuries.

Toney (Meath) - Posts: 283 - 30/05/2018 19:27:39    2105717

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Replying To Toney:  "In all seriousness, this Meath team are going nowhere fast. It's the worst in living memory. Tyrone should have enough to win even with their injuries."
Bit harsh, and in any case we've had a lot of poor campaigns both league and championship since the heady of the 80s and 90s, don't think this Meath team deserves any special criticism.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 7937 - 30/05/2018 19:35:13    2105719

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Replying To Htaem:  "Bit harsh, and in any case we've had a lot of poor campaigns both league and championship since the heady of the 80s and 90s, don't think this Meath team deserves any special criticism."
If Meath win this Harte WILL retire, nope, can't see it but I hope they do.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7015 - 30/05/2018 19:47:09    2105722

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Replying To mon07:  "It is very hard for players to keep lifting themselves up to go for another campaign when you know at the end of it you will meet Dublin in croke park to get a lesson. I think Meath and also Kildare are doing the correct thing by going the back door route. They will have a better chance in getting to the super 8 while picking up confidence along the way. Getting a beating by Dublin is not the best preparation for the next game you have to play before making the super 8."
That's a valid point.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13849 - 30/05/2018 20:04:52    2105730

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Replying To Htaem:  "Bit harsh, and in any case we've had a lot of poor campaigns both league and championship since the heady of the 80s and 90s, don't think this Meath team deserves any special criticism."
They have never really recovered from the darkest day in our history, 8 points up against a team who in 135 years could not beat us. Then to implode. Many on that team are scarred by that, they took serious abuse. Afterwards they tried to reclaim some respect against Tyrone. But it failed.
One thing I don't want is for any of them to think going toe to toe with Tyrone for 35 mins is a achievement. I am sure mcentee will not have that weak mindset in them when they take to navan.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13849 - 30/05/2018 20:09:43    2105731

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All hail sky sports. Fair play to
Them, rte was offered this game, they refused. Good on sky for looking after the genuine gaels. I will be in attendance , but for those who are not this is a great announcement.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 13849 - 30/05/2018 20:11:33    2105732

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Replying To realdub:  "If Meath win this Harte WILL retire, nope, can't see it but I hope they do."
Chances are Tyrone will win, but I don't think we're without hope. I think this game rests entirely on how we perform because Tyrone under Harte are very predictable. That's not to say they're bad, infact they're very efficient at beating teams like Meath, but we all know what they're going to do.

So if we play like we've played all year then it will take a miracle for us to win, if we can adapt, maybe try something new or even just click on the day and play out of our skin, then we're in with a real chance.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 7937 - 30/05/2018 20:11:41    2105733

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Replying To Htaem:  "Bit harsh, and in any case we've had a lot of poor campaigns both league and championship since the heady of the 80s and 90s, don't think this Meath team deserves any special criticism."
I'm sorry to say it Htaem, but that's the way I feel. I've been following Meath footballers for over 30 years. My first championship game was in Newbridge against Kildare in 1986. I've never felt as bad since then. Of course there were others years where we had poor campaigns with bad defeats but with better players that would give you cause for optimism. I believe many of the players on the current panel aren't up to the required standard to play inter county. There is better players in the county but it's through no fault of Andy McEntee's as most of them don't want to play. Like Andy said on here last week, 'you just have to keep at it.'

Toney (Meath) - Posts: 283 - 30/05/2018 20:18:31    2105736

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Replying To Toney:  "I'm sorry to say it Htaem, but that's the way I feel. I've been following Meath footballers for over 30 years. My first championship game was in Newbridge against Kildare in 1986. I've never felt as bad since then. Of course there were others years where we had poor campaigns with bad defeats but with better players that would give you cause for optimism. I believe many of the players on the current panel aren't up to the required standard to play inter county. There is better players in the county but it's through no fault of Andy McEntee's as most of them don't want to play. Like Andy said on here last week, 'you just have to keep at it.'"
Listen I understand where you're coming from, we've been starved of good championship results for years now, it's an extraordinarily poor run for a county with such a large population and rich history. I also agree that many people just don't want to play intercounty anymore, which is unfortunate but very understandable, it can dominate young people's lives and you can't blame them for wanting away. Although fairplay to those who stick at it aswell.

But personally I don't agree with the view that this is the worst Meath team ever, I don't think it's considered criticism, I think it's a bit reactionary. Like I said we've had many disastrous campaigns in the recent past, and I don't know about you but I didn't feel much optimism after defeats such as Wexford 2008, Louth 2012 (NFL relegation), Armagh 2014, Westmeath 2015, Derry 2016 to name but a small few.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 7937 - 30/05/2018 21:03:58    2105750

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Replying To royaldunne:  "They have never really recovered from the darkest day in our history, 8 points up against a team who in 135 years could not beat us. Then to implode. Many on that team are scarred by that, they took serious abuse. Afterwards they tried to reclaim some respect against Tyrone. But it failed.
One thing I don't want is for any of them to think going toe to toe with Tyrone for 35 mins is a achievement. I am sure mcentee will not have that weak mindset in them when they take to navan."
Absolutely, an achievement is winning against Tyrone, going toe to toe but not getting the job done (like we did against Donegal last year), is no good, moral victories are about as useful as tits on a bull!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 7937 - 30/05/2018 21:13:18    2105753

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