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Replying To Mayonman: " Replying To panamasam: "[quote=DonaldDuck: "Well it seems some managers are now learning what a ridiculous rule this is not allowing players eligible for the U-20's play in that grade if named in the senior squad. Colin Kelly spoke out about it and I imagine the Derry U-20 management will be ruing the rule too next weekend. Like who does it really benefit? Bar the cash cow on the east. At the time we heard about protecting player welfare yet the evidence points to the complete opposite plus does the welfare of the hurlers not matter? Hmmmm. For example Donegal will most likely have to play 3 weeks in a row. Tell me who in the Ulster Council was thinking of player welfare when they decided the prelim match at the weekend should be played after 2 quarter finals? Go figure. The same Ulster Council who ensured with their fixture programming last year that Donegal were at a disadvantage to their provincial counterparts outside of Ulster having played more games over a shorter period. On a slightly different tangent but also in relation to their fixture planning Donegal will play Derry in their quarter final as curtain raiser to the senior semi final. Meaning anybody who wants to see them will have to pay out for more over priced tickets.....a complete joke. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 1254 - 29/05/2018 01:52:27 Why is under 20s not playing under 20 if in senior squad ridiculous? They will be training enough/playing with seniors. That is completely related to player welfare and isnt the opposite of that at all. Playing 3 weeks in a row isnt a disregard to player welfare." Of course it is especially in the middle of exams. The under 21 championship was just fine and if u argue it that way why has the hurling not been changed?" Exams are a different issue. didn't think an under 20 would still be in Leaving Cert but if they are they are. Playing 3 weeks in a row is not a player welfare issue. Training and playing with multiple teams is. Just because hurlers are doing something different does not make it right. Primary focus of underage competitions should be to develop a player to Senior. If they are already playing Senior then there is no need for them to play underage. Let another player get the development on the U20 squad. It is not about winning underage cups. Once upon a time we used to get excited about that in Galway until we realised it wasn't translating to Senior success. The real issue is the U20 who is good enough for Senior squad is also playing U20 and Senior for his club. If he plays hurling he is probably playing U20 and Senior hurling for club as well. That is 6 teams without even mentioning schools or college teams."]You make some excellent points especially in relation to young players getting pulled from all different angles. However one area we are in disagreement on is young players eligibility for both seniors and U-20's. Yes underage should be all about developing for senior but surely denying players to play within their age group where they can be a leader and bring success together is counterproductive. Ok I acknowledge this is not the case in the bigger counties but certainly relevant in the so called weaker counties. Like I said the past success of teams like Westmeath and Laois would be difficult now. Those underage successes were brought forward to senior. As it is the counties outside of Dublin are not having some of their best players commit cause they see no point. This is creating more disparity and makes things even more difficult. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 29/05/2018 16:30:35 2105350 Link
Are TG4 showing the finals live like they did last year? JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 30/05/2018 11:36:23 2105541 Link
End of the road from a Donegal perspective despite the promise shown last week. In truth based on the radio commentary the better team Derry thoroughly deserved their win with the goals keeping Donegal in it. I cannot really say much more on it given anything I know about the game is not from been actually at it. Big congrats to Derry and best of luck to them moving forward. They might not be where they should be at senior level but no doubt they are producing some very good underage players. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 03/06/2018 15:55:08 2106805 Link
Replying To panamasam: "End of the road from a Donegal perspective despite the promise shown last week. In truth based on the radio commentary the better team Derry thoroughly deserved their win with the goals keeping Donegal in it. I cannot really say much more on it given anything I know about the game is not from been actually at it. Big congrats to Derry and best of luck to them moving forward. They might not be where they should be at senior level but no doubt they are producing some very good underage players." That result surprised me, was under the impression the majorty of Derry's team were last years minors? That was a very good Donegal team on paper that was favourites to win Ulster and sounds like the scoreline flattered them. JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 04/06/2018 10:58:19 2107206 Link
Well done Derry. Same thing happened the minors v Derry in 2015. You have to admire them. Our lads are definitely playing too many fixtures and it seems to happen every year. In ways I am dreading the super 8s if our seniors make it. I fear that you should only run a horse a maximum number of races a year. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 04/06/2018 11:14:27 2107218 Link
Good to see James Madden start for the Dubs U 20's this afternoon amid all the interest from the AFL. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/06/2018 14:00:10 2107288 Link
Replying To JDF: "That result surprised me, was under the impression the majorty of Derry's team were last years minors? That was a very good Donegal team on paper that was favourites to win Ulster and sounds like the scoreline flattered them." I knew it was a very tricky game and would have taken any positive result. The scoreboard says it all in 16 scores to 11. I am only going on what I read and the radio commentary but physically Derry were more than a match for the Donegal team. Our minors last year were not in the same league as Derry. Plus from the 2016 minors Kieran Gallagher (midfield) and Eoghan McGettigan (injured) were not involved. The physical presence of Gallagher was missed and McGettigan was the 2016 sides best forward after O'Donnell. Added to this that Jason McGee was not fit despite playing in both games with similar sentiments applied to Enda McCormick that this result was not that big a surprise for me anyways. While Derry thoroughly deserved their win no question again the Ulster Council done one of our underage sides no favours at all. For the second year running Donegal have been the victims of shambolic fixture planning. Don't need to remind anybody of last year's U-21's but this year having to play a prelim match the week before a quarter final with 2 quarter finals already played says it all. Added to this our lads had to play with little support given the match was a curtain raiser to a senior match in which neither Derry or Donegal was involved. I have no problem with this my problem comes from the fact that few supporters could afford to fork out for excessive ticket prices for an underage game been played before midday. As a result going on radio commentary Derry had most of the support which was no surprise given the senior sides involved. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 04/06/2018 18:07:00 2107373 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Good to see James Madden start for the Dubs U 20's this afternoon amid all the interest from the AFL." I haven't read anything about the Aussies being interested in madden, where did you read that? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/06/2018 20:45:49 2107427 Link
Leinster semi finals look like kildare v Dublin in one semi final and Meath in the other. Laois would need to beat Meath by 24 or 25 points or kildare lose quarter for it not to happen. Dublin are the still the team to beat at under 20 as they have dominated around this level for decade. Kildare have been their main challenger and with kildare having players from a minor winning leinster team they are genuine contenders. Offaly could be a long shot. But Meath look like real contenders also. After ignoring underage for 10 years Meath have put in the work and our producing good footballers and very credible results, just need to now turn that into leinster titles. I think people didn't see Meath as contenders in leinster this year but minor results indicated they could be. They have players from minor team that hammered Dublin 2 years ago..And players that won minor leinster title last year v Dub's ( Under 17 inaugural leinster championship). The game yesterday kildare was a repeat of the game which had players from both teams involved in a brillant minor semi final that went to extra time and kildare won 1 point two years ago. Yesterday again was a cracking gane which again was decided by 1 point ,this time in Meaths favour. This victory and Meath beating Galway in a challenge game at this level under 20 in recent weeks , would indicate Meath are definatly in the mix in leinster. Seen as Galway are one of the favs for under 20 All Ireland title. But Meath have had tendency to blow hot and cold at underage. We need more consistency and winning leinster titles is the next step at underage. If we dont serious questions must be asked. Dublin are still the team to beat at under 20. And kildare v Dublin semi final will be a massive game. At senior level leinster football championship is in dire straits. At minor and under 20 it is a more interesting and competitive leinster championship. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 05/06/2018 14:25:06 2107702 Link
Replying To Furlong1949: "Leinster semi finals look like kildare v Dublin in one semi final and Meath in the other. Laois would need to beat Meath by 24 or 25 points or kildare lose quarter for it not to happen. Dublin are the still the team to beat at under 20 as they have dominated around this level for decade. Kildare have been their main challenger and with kildare having players from a minor winning leinster team they are genuine contenders. Offaly could be a long shot. But Meath look like real contenders also. After ignoring underage for 10 years Meath have put in the work and our producing good footballers and very credible results, just need to now turn that into leinster titles. I think people didn't see Meath as contenders in leinster this year but minor results indicated they could be. They have players from minor team that hammered Dublin 2 years ago..And players that won minor leinster title last year v Dub's ( Under 17 inaugural leinster championship). The game yesterday kildare was a repeat of the game which had players from both teams involved in a brillant minor semi final that went to extra time and kildare won 1 point two years ago. Yesterday again was a cracking gane which again was decided by 1 point ,this time in Meaths favour. This victory and Meath beating Galway in a challenge game at this level under 20 in recent weeks , would indicate Meath are definatly in the mix in leinster. Seen as Galway are one of the favs for under 20 All Ireland title. But Meath have had tendency to blow hot and cold at underage. We need more consistency and winning leinster titles is the next step at underage. If we dont serious questions must be asked. Dublin are still the team to beat at under 20. And kildare v Dublin semi final will be a massive game. At senior level leinster football championship is in dire straits. At minor and under 20 it is a more interesting and competitive leinster championship." Great post likely to be Offaly for Meath in a semi final? panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 05/06/2018 16:28:00 2107757 Link
Replying To panamasam: "Great post likely to be Offaly for Meath in a semi final?" Thanks Panamasam. Ye it looks like Meath v Offaly / kildare v Dublin semi finals. But you never know in that a surprise defeat or two could change all that. Kildare v Dublin would be a massive game and really could decide the title. Meath v Offaly would be a potential very tricky game v Meath. Meath have had the tendency to blow hot and cold in the last few years at underage. This year at minor and under 20 results have being very encouraging. But an Offaly semi final would be the type of game Meath have lost at underage since 2010. Time will tell if we have really turned the corner at underage. And Offaly have put work in at underage recently and making strides at underage. But Dubs are the team to beat not just in leinster ,but throughout the country. Hopefully people get behind the under 20 comp as there has been some good games so far. It wasnt til 1990s that people really got into under 21 championship and that was nearly 20 years after it was introduced. It can take time for a new grade to capture peoples attention. But the fact is after senior under 20 championship is the number 2 or 3 All Ireland series in the country along with minor and probaly club All Ireland. For me under 20 is the second most important or significant All Ireland series or championship, but I know many people would might have the club All Ireland series. Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 05/06/2018 21:32:52 2107856 Link
Galway will win u20 and u17 all irelands in a canter and it galls me to write that. OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 05/06/2018 22:26:22 2107880 Link
Replying To Furlong1949: "Thanks Panamasam. Ye it looks like Meath v Offaly / kildare v Dublin semi finals. But you never know in that a surprise defeat or two could change all that. Kildare v Dublin would be a massive game and really could decide the title. Meath v Offaly would be a potential very tricky game v Meath. Meath have had the tendency to blow hot and cold in the last few years at underage. This year at minor and under 20 results have being very encouraging. But an Offaly semi final would be the type of game Meath have lost at underage since 2010. Time will tell if we have really turned the corner at underage. And Offaly have put work in at underage recently and making strides at underage. But Dubs are the team to beat not just in leinster ,but throughout the country. Hopefully people get behind the under 20 comp as there has been some good games so far. It wasnt til 1990s that people really got into under 21 championship and that was nearly 20 years after it was introduced. It can take time for a new grade to capture peoples attention. But the fact is after senior under 20 championship is the number 2 or 3 All Ireland series in the country along with minor and probaly club All Ireland. For me under 20 is the second most important or significant All Ireland series or championship, but I know many people would might have the club All Ireland series." Well best of luck to ye. I have seen a couple of Offaly's recent underage sides but not this particular U-20 side. They had a good minor team last year whom I could not believe got beat by Louth, Reading posts here very obvious the passion and support that Meath have. I will still follow the championship even though I have no interest anymore from a supporting point of view. I like the system in place in Leinster shame that in Ulster it is 1 strike and u are out. But don't get me started on the Ulster Council. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 05/06/2018 23:28:27 2107903 Link
Replying To OhtobeARossie: "Galway will win u20 and u17 all irelands in a canter and it galls me to write that." Rise them up before u cut the legs from under them. OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 09/06/2018 18:55:55 2109014 Link
Mayo v Roscommon u20 Connacht final. Mayo 1-24 Leitrim 1-3 Galway 0-11 Ros 1-11 yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 09/06/2018 19:31:52 2109027 Link
Replying To OhtobeARossie: "Rise them up before u cut the legs from under them." We cut our own legs.. free in , scorable oppurtunities with both, straight red card with both.. enough said.. Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 09/06/2018 20:06:30 2109052 Link
Totally unexpected win for us but we fully deserved it. I see a few Mayo supporters elsewhere are talking themselves up as All Ireland contenders based on a trimming v Leitrim and how some players are doing at club level? well thats alright as the underdog tag will suit us fine. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3744 - 10/06/2018 01:17:39 2109229 Link
Galway gone. Early red card killed them. Had to play 60 minutes with 14. Missing a few with injury beforehand as well so a combination of events sunk them. Mainly their own fault so they can have no complaints. Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2209 - 10/06/2018 04:31:56 2109243 Link
Replying To Marooned: "Galway gone. Early red card killed them. Had to play 60 minutes with 14. Missing a few with injury beforehand as well so a combination of events sunk them. Mainly their own fault so they can have no complaints." Can't be using injuries as excuse as the rossies had more injuries and they don't have the pick of Galway. This result was all about Roscommon wanting it more against the hot favourties playing at home and its underdog wins like that makes championship football great. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 10/06/2018 11:23:07 2109328 Link
Is the new U20 championship straight knockout or is there a back door for defeated provincial Finalists.I"m not sure but I think it's straight knockout.If so, who do the Connacht champions play in the All Ireland semi final.? endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2155 - 10/06/2018 11:30:55 2109330 Link