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Replying To katser:  "Paudie Maher is a mighty hurler but he gave away 4 frees which Duggan scored because he wasn't able to cope with the Clare forwards running game by blatantly fouling them. Massive result for the Banner... who is going to right them off now!! Ya-hoo!"
Clare have Limerick in Cusack Park on Sunday. That should be a cracker, winners qualify for Munster Final, draw will be enough for Limerick.
One team to watch, Cork. Galway and Kilkenny are still around too.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 918 - 11/06/2018 12:40:35    2109910

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Replying To bennybunny:  "OK. Fair enough. It is right to ask questions. However, the team has been going a while. They have put a lot of hours and played a lot of massive matches. Mick Ryan recognised this and tried to build a big panel to sustain another challenge. It didn't work out this year but that is not to say it won't. Tipperary still have a brilliant panel of players. I think they have the best panel. An early finish this year might just rejuvenate Tipp. Obviously, you are not happy now. Maybe let the emotions settle before making major decisions."
Yes your 100% right. The dust will be let settle. We have time to do that!!!
His decisions in the league were strange but in his defence we were down a huge number of regulars for the league and had a lot of rusty players come cship. However, Waterford had bigger problems when we played them and we were lucky to get a draw there.
Hopefully the right call will be made.

On another note, hopefully the two injuries to our two best players in the cship arent too bad and they recover for their club.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2481 - 11/06/2018 16:24:10    2110061

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...but Limerick are going well and will have a All Ireland quater final tussle with Kilkenny...revenge for 2007???

katser (Galway) - Posts: 44 - 10/06/2018 21:39:12 2109591


Kilkenny in the quarter-final? I seem to have missed the Leinster Hurling Championship final. How many points did Galway win by?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 618 - 11/06/2018 21:32:18    2110249

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You can't put two poor seasons back to back and not expect questions to be asked. KK were even asking questions of Cody after 2/3 rounds of the league.
They've won 3 of the last 9 cship games (Westmeath, Dublin and Clare in 2017). Throw in the other two big games (2 league finals and it's 3 from 11 in the important games Tipp have played in the past two seasons).
Their wins have been against a Westmeath team who finished 4th in 2A in 2017 and a Dublin team that were relegated.
Granted they werent a million miles away in 3 of the 4 games this year but did they deserve to win any of them?"
KK were even asking questions of Cody after 2/3 rounds of the league.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2373 - 11/06/2018 08:38:21 2109712


No they weren't. The only people "asking questions of Cody" were from outside the county.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 618 - 11/06/2018 21:35:59    2110250

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "...but Limerick are going well and will have a All Ireland quater final tussle with Kilkenny...revenge for 2007???

katser (Galway) - Posts: 44 - 10/06/2018 21:39:12 2109591


Kilkenny in the quarter-final? I seem to have missed the Leinster Hurling Championship final. How many points did Galway win by?"
The good times are well and truly over in Kilkenny....stumbled into a Leinster Final, stumbled over the line against Dublin and Offaly, should have been beaten about 15pts in Galway. Coady should have retired on a high after the 2015 All Ireland...but no just hanging around like a bad smell. Doesn't matter if it's Galway, Limerick, Cork or Clare... they would all hammer Kilkenny anyway.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 169 - 11/06/2018 22:43:12    2110304

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Kind Sir. I am watching KK with many many years. Never, ever, write them off. They had an Under 21 team that was beat two years ago by Westmeath and ran close by them last year. They seemed very average indeed against my own county in the All Ireland Final last September, yet 6 or 7 of that team have seamlessly transformed in what would appear to be fine Senior players. Be very careful.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1677 - 12/06/2018 09:34:26    2110392

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "If Limerick take it easy next week then they guarantee a final against Clare, a better prospect than facing Cork it would seem. Would that also push Cork into facing the Leinster losers or is there a draw at that stage?"
No, I would far prefer to meet Cork in a Munster Final than Clare.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1677 - 12/06/2018 09:37:58    2110394

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Kind Sir. I am watching KK with many many years. Never, ever, write them off. They had an Under 21 team that was beat two years ago by Westmeath and ran close by them last year. They seemed very average indeed against my own county in the All Ireland Final last September, yet 6 or 7 of that team have seamlessly transformed in what would appear to be fine Senior players. Be very careful."
Nah...they are like a dying wasp and their final sting was Wexford another team who should have flattend Kilkenny before they got stung! Even their own faithful fans admit Kilkenny are in transition and trying to build a team again and to give them time. But who cares really...enough about them they have had plenty of Glory, it's about Limerick, Clare, Cork and Galway this year.... they are all fine teams and would make mouthwatering All Ireland semi finals!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 169 - 12/06/2018 10:59:38    2110432

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Replying To katser:  "Nah...they are like a dying wasp and their final sting was Wexford another team who should have flattend Kilkenny before they got stung! Even their own faithful fans admit Kilkenny are in transition and trying to build a team again and to give them time. But who cares really...enough about them they have had plenty of Glory, it's about Limerick, Clare, Cork and Galway this year.... they are all fine teams and would make mouthwatering All Ireland semi finals!"
I can see Kilkenny winning Leinster. Cody has 4 weeks now to work out a game plan to beat Galway. Not many managers have beaten him twice.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 504 - 12/06/2018 12:19:55    2110473

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  " KK were even asking questions of Cody after 2/3 rounds of the league.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2373 - 11/06/2018 08:38:21 2109712


No they weren't. The only people "asking questions of Cody" were from outside the county."
I'd actually say the opposite is true and the only people asking questions of him were within the county. A few former players did interviews and articles...maybe not directly questioning him but i'd suggest they certainly were doing that in their own way. There was certainly small rumblings from the public that maybe it was time he stepped aside.

He's proved them wrong though, there's no doubt about that

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0612/882207-richie-power-column-this-is-brian-codys-biggest-test/

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2481 - 12/06/2018 14:47:55    2110550

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "The fact that this team is littered with Under 21 All Ireland medals, Under 21 Munster Championship medals, national hurling League medals and All Ireland Senior Hurling medals would probably be part of the reason why.

Also, what people fail to understand about Clare is that we have never been beaten by a big score in since we won our most recent All Ireland, in fact in most games we are in the game right to the death only to fade at the last minute. In general too we have had serious accuracy issues stemming from nervousness. The talent is there to beat anyone, we just need to get mentally right.

Thats why yesterday was huge. I think that win was priceless in the manner we won. I fancy us to beat anyone in Ennis and with this in mind I fancy us to be in this years Munster final."
I think the 2013 All Ireland comes with an * beside it given Clare didn't even have to play 2 of the big 3 (Tipp, KK) to win it, and beat a far from great Cork team who would not have even made the final if Ryan O'Dwyer hadn't got himself sent off for Dublin with 20mins to go in the semi final.

And all this without even mentioning the equalising score of the drawn final came 35 seconds over the 2 mins of injury time.

I think the fortunes of both teams in the presiding years attests to this with Clare going without a win in Munster until last season. And Cork falling off a cliff after 2013 until last seasons renaissance.

Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 104 - 12/06/2018 16:41:22    2110608

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "No, I would far prefer to meet Cork in a Munster Final than Clare."
It's amazing isn't it Oldtourman. I'd rather get 6/7 lads off an under 21 team that are ready for senior hurling than win something with 12/13 average hurlers and only have 2/3 make the step up to senior grade.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2319 - 12/06/2018 17:38:00    2110636

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Replying To Miami305:  "I think the 2013 All Ireland comes with an * beside it given Clare didn't even have to play 2 of the big 3 (Tipp, KK) to win it, and beat a far from great Cork team who would not have even made the final if Ryan O'Dwyer hadn't got himself sent off for Dublin with 20mins to go in the semi final.

And all this without even mentioning the equalising score of the drawn final came 35 seconds over the 2 mins of injury time.

I think the fortunes of both teams in the presiding years attests to this with Clare going without a win in Munster until last season. And Cork falling off a cliff after 2013 until last seasons renaissance."
Totally incorrect. The bones of the 2013 Cork team is still playing. They reached the 2014 and 2015 Munster finals aswell and were and are good. This rubbish about 2013 being a soft All Ireland is a nothing argument. Cody would be the first to shoot it down as claptrap. Cork Tipp and Kilkenny have won many 'softer' All Irelands. Galway beating Waterford last September could be considered soft..if people used your Logic.

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 12/06/2018 18:10:59    2110659

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Replying To katser:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "...but Limerick are going well and will have a All Ireland quater final tussle with Kilkenny...revenge for 2007???

katser (Galway) - Posts: 44 - 10/06/2018 21:39:12 2109591


Kilkenny in the quarter-final? I seem to have missed the Leinster Hurling Championship final. How many points did Galway win by?"
The good times are well and truly over in Kilkenny....stumbled into a Leinster Final, stumbled over the line against Dublin and Offaly, should have been beaten about 15pts in Galway. Coady should have retired on a high after the 2015 All Ireland...but no just hanging around like a bad smell. Doesn't matter if it's Galway, Limerick, Cork or Clare... they would all hammer Kilkenny anyway."
"Coady should have retired on a high after the 2015 All Ireland..."

Coady? His name is Cody.

"...but no just hanging around like a bad smell."

Hopefully that bad smell will be filling your nostrils well into the summer. Long after the stench of your arrogance has faded.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 618 - 12/06/2018 20:11:03    2110718

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Replying To tiobraid:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  " KK were even asking questions of Cody after 2/3 rounds of the league.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2373 - 11/06/2018 08:38:21 2109712


No they weren't. The only people "asking questions of Cody" were from outside the county."
I'd actually say the opposite is true and the only people asking questions of him were within the county. A few former players did interviews and articles...maybe not directly questioning him but i'd suggest they certainly were doing that in their own way. There was certainly small rumblings from the public that maybe it was time he stepped aside.

He's proved them wrong though, there's no doubt about that

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0612/882207-richie-power-column-this-is-brian-codys-biggest-test/"
Ok. I take your point.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 618 - 12/06/2018 20:28:40    2110730

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To katser:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "...but Limerick are going well and will have a All Ireland quater final tussle with Kilkenny...revenge for 2007???

katser (Galway) - Posts: 44 - 10/06/2018 21:39:12 2109591


Kilkenny in the quarter-final? I seem to have missed the Leinster Hurling Championship final. How many points did Galway win by?"
The good times are well and truly over in Kilkenny....stumbled into a Leinster Final, stumbled over the line against Dublin and Offaly, should have been beaten about 15pts in Galway. Coady should have retired on a high after the 2015 All Ireland...but no just hanging around like a bad smell. Doesn't matter if it's Galway, Limerick, Cork or Clare... they would all hammer Kilkenny anyway."
"Coady should have retired on a high after the 2015 All Ireland..."

Coady? His name is Cody.

"...but no just hanging around like a bad smell."

Hopefully that bad smell will be filling your nostrils well into the summer. Long after the stench of your arrogance has faded."]As I said ...who cares? Kilkenny are old news now! Coady/Cody big deal so what. And when they do fall back into their slumber like 1994-1998/1999 (actually they have already fallen into that slumber) ....don't hear many people asking questions or showing any interest. Anyway I'm finished talking about Kilkenny...they bore me unlike Limerick,Clare,Cork and Galway all so exciting to watch.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 169 - 12/06/2018 20:48:14    2110747

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There are children on the site I see. I've always thought it was a bad idea to give mobile phones to kids

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1085 - 12/06/2018 21:14:45    2110759

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Replying To Miami305:  "I think the 2013 All Ireland comes with an * beside it given Clare didn't even have to play 2 of the big 3 (Tipp, KK) to win it, and beat a far from great Cork team who would not have even made the final if Ryan O'Dwyer hadn't got himself sent off for Dublin with 20mins to go in the semi final.

And all this without even mentioning the equalising score of the drawn final came 35 seconds over the 2 mins of injury time.

I think the fortunes of both teams in the presiding years attests to this with Clare going without a win in Munster until last season. And Cork falling off a cliff after 2013 until last seasons renaissance."
KK knocked out Tipp, Cork comfortably beat KK in the quarters and Clare beat Cork after a replay.

Limerick beat Tipp in Munster and Clare knocked out Limerick.

Why is it considered a soft All Ireland for Clare?

You talk about Clare being lucky with 35 seconds added to get the equaliser in the drawn game? What about Clare being unlucky that Shane O Neill was only given a yellow on the pitch after he tried to decapitate Honan off the ball?

This soft All Ireland crap really irks me. Terrible bitter stuff.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 1921 - 13/06/2018 04:22:23    2110839

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "KK knocked out Tipp, Cork comfortably beat KK in the quarters and Clare beat Cork after a replay.

Limerick beat Tipp in Munster and Clare knocked out Limerick.

Why is it considered a soft All Ireland for Clare?

You talk about Clare being lucky with 35 seconds added to get the equaliser in the drawn game? What about Clare being unlucky that Shane O Neill was only given a yellow on the pitch after he tried to decapitate Honan off the ball?

This soft All Ireland crap really irks me. Terrible bitter stuff."
The 2013 All-Ireland was won fairly and squarely by Clare. Cork did their best to overcome Clare in both games, but Clare were always that bit better on both days. Nothing would have pleased me more than to have robbed them the first day out.

Time-keeping by referees is never an exact science and referees generally play from half a minute to two minutes over "extra" time, so that can't be used as an excuse. In the end, the better team won the All-Ireland. What does Mr Cody say? The better team always wins.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 570 - 13/06/2018 11:42:26    2110943

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Totally incorrect. The bones of the 2013 Cork team is still playing. They reached the 2014 and 2015 Munster finals aswell and were and are good. This rubbish about 2013 being a soft All Ireland is a nothing argument. Cody would be the first to shoot it down as claptrap. Cork Tipp and Kilkenny have won many 'softer' All Irelands. Galway beating Waterford last September could be considered soft..if people used your Logic."
Yes Cork followed up 2013 by winning the Munster final against Limerick and proceeded to be hammered by Tipp by 10 points in the AI semifinal.

Cork didn't reach the 2015 Munster final like you stated. Cork lost to Waterford in the Munster semi. They then went out of the Championship to Galway by 12 points in the quarter final.

So following 2 years "the were and are good Cork team" you state went out of the championship by 2 defeats combining for 22 points.

Shall we move on to 2016..... 9 point Munster quarter final loss to Tipp and eventually went out again Wexford.

Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 104 - 13/06/2018 12:15:15    2110984

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