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GAA Athletes For A NO Vote

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Replying To westkerry: "Opinion is one thing canvassing is another. I agree with Liam Mickey is not eligible to cast a vote in the republic and should not be campaigning." The reality is there is a real and significant chance of Irish unification in the medium term, it makes perfect sense for Irish people in the north to engage in the democratic process, if they so wish, in a state that they may be part of in the future. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/04/2018 21:50:25 2094634 Link
Replying To browncows: "He has as much business / entitlement. I would lie to remind to that there is 32 counties in our little country." 32 on the Island 26 in our Country. That's a fact, and let's stick to them. The good people of Northern Ireland have trouble enough managing their own country without us dragging them into a referendum. I think Mickey Harte is entitled to campaign but if he focused on getting things right in his own country he would be lauded even more. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 23/04/2018 21:53:15 2094635 Link
I am a bit shocked to see posters on a GAA website differentiate between Irishmen who live in the 26 and those in the 6 because that part of our Country was occupied in 1922 and is still so. Do they also think partition was right? Hope it was only a slip of the keyboard. Secondly it is not unusual for people of influence to try to use it for good. Various well known people will do so on both sides of the referendum. There is no Authority to bar GAA people from so doing. Of course top Management in Croke park should and will avoid the organisation itself taking sides Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 23/04/2018 23:10:58 2094645 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "Mickey and any other Gaa member can comment and campaign on this issue if they so please. They are not claiming to represent the whole Gaa family,no more than Eamonn mc gee did when he campaigned for a yes vote on the gay marriage issue. It's funny how some people get so angry at certain individuals when they disagree with them on these very sensitive issues. No doubt the people angry at Mickey are against the death penalty also." I think GAA people are objecting to the use of the title; ' GAA athletes' and the rather devious manner in which they hijacked a club's young players. The fact that they stayed off the club's ground but put on the skills session on vacant ground beside shows how acutely aware they were of what they were doing. I don't see posters castigating anyone for holding or expressing an opinion neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 23/04/2018 23:27:54 2094646 Link
This is a very complex and difficult issue for many people both male and female and in all honesty I dont think this forum is the place to be discussing it. However those saying here that this group who came out promotting no vote were under the gaa banner, I dont think they were they called themselves gaelic players for choice it wasnt endorsed by the gaa. As regards micky harte endorsing a no vote, its his choice and shouldnt be slated for it, with media pressure and all its far easier to say your a yes voter so these players deserve respect for sticking to their beliefs. Its a personal issue with everyone so I think this topic shoukd be shut down here or its only going to get nasty. preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 736 - 23/04/2018 23:57:54 2094649 Link
Replying To PeggyShippen: "32 on the Island 26 in our Country. That's a fact, and let's stick to them. The good people of Northern Ireland have trouble enough managing their own country without us dragging them into a referendum. I think Mickey Harte is entitled to campaign but if he focused on getting things right in his own country he would be lauded even more." Your reference to Mickey Harte focusing on getting things right "in his own COUNTRY" tells us everything we need to know. 26 county partitionism is still alive and well in the South. I'll bet though many of the same "why don't you stay UP THERE" brigade were shouting their gobs off at the Ulster Rugby trial. Hypocrites! Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 24/04/2018 01:20:10 2094652 Link
my problem with these gaa athletes from the still occupied 6 is why are they foisting their opinions with a headline grabbing gaa attached to their title onto the people of the other 26 counties, especially as they don't even have a vote in the matter. but especially mh and his religious opinions and beliefs which he is rightly entitled too and isn,t shy about using knowing that with his high profile and with gaa in the title that a lot of people will think that the gaa are endorsing a no vote bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 24/04/2018 07:58:04 2094657 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "They have some neck thinking they could use "GAA" as if was their own!" this is mickey harte you're referring to, the ramifications of the split in his original home club ballygawley now errigal Ciaran is still not been forgotten about, with his actions and a few others splitting a parish and community bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 24/04/2018 08:02:07 2094658 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." here here, I agree 100% with you bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 24/04/2018 08:38:33 2094663 Link
Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "The reality is there is a real and significant chance of Irish unification in the medium term, it makes perfect sense for Irish people in the north to engage in the democratic process, if they so wish, in a state that they may be part of in the future." wishful thinking cavan-shambles bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 24/04/2018 08:45:12 2094665 Link
Replying To PeggyShippen: "32 on the Island 26 in our Country. That's a fact, and let's stick to them. The good people of Northern Ireland have trouble enough managing their own country without us dragging them into a referendum. I think Mickey Harte is entitled to campaign but if he focused on getting things right in his own country he would be lauded even more." Why don't you, "Build the wall" because that's the BS rhetoric your spouting. I don't agree with Mickey Hartes views at all, in fact I find it ridiculous that a bunch of middle aged men have any opinion on ladies bodies and how they chose to live, but as a citizen of Ireland, like anyone in the North whom chooses to be one, he is entitled to an opinion. Do your parochial views extend to economics how do you feel about foreign money changing 'your country' do those companies get the whole of your wrath, or do you just save stupid comments for those North of the border. duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 24/04/2018 08:46:15 2094666 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "It's being reported that they named their group "GAA athletes for a no vote". Is that incorrect, every source I see is consistent with that being their groups name. Even if it isn't. They used a juvenile coaching event to plug their event. That photo of them with the kids absolutely sickens me. They are just using them for their own agenda." No I believe the official name of the group is gealic players first life. Unfortunately both sides have used kids for there agenda and imo would be better if the were not included. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 24/04/2018 09:25:46 2094677 Link
32 on the Island 26 in our Country. That's a fact, and let's stick to them. The good people of Northern Ireland have trouble enough managing their own country without us dragging them into a referendum. I think Mickey Harte is entitled to campaign but if he focused on getting things right in his own country he would be lauded even more. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 127 - 23/04/2018 21:53:15 It's it may be a fact but life is not that simple. There are 26 counties in this state, however there are an additional amount of people in the 6 that are connected to this state, that is a fact. As in the situation has always been less than black and white and far more complicated than a simple dotted line on a map. As this referendum proves, if access to abortion became available in the 26 counties that would massively improve access for those living in the 6 counties. This is an all-island issue. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 24/04/2018 10:11:44 2094687 Link
Replying To bulmccabe: "wishful thinking cavan-shambles" Certainly not. It was however wishful thinking 24 months ago. Two reasons, demographic changes and Brexit. It's almost inevitable at this stage. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 24/04/2018 10:29:51 2094691 Link
If their name is 'Gaelic players for life' why has every media outlet quoted the name of the group as being 'GAA athletes for a no vote'. Has there been a mass error in reporting standards across the entirety of the Irish media spectrum? Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4223 - 24/04/2018 10:46:54 2094693 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "If their name is 'Gaelic players for life' why has every media outlet quoted the name of the group as being 'GAA athletes for a no vote'. Has there been a mass error in reporting standards across the entirety of the Irish media spectrum?" It's Gaelic Athletes For Life, And yes, there's been a mass error in reporting standards across the entirety of the Irish media spectrum. LooseCannon (Offaly) - Posts: 86 - 24/04/2018 10:53:44 2094695 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Your reference to Mickey Harte focusing on getting things right "in his own COUNTRY" tells us everything we need to know. 26 county partitionism is still alive and well in the South. I'll bet though many of the same "why don't you stay UP THERE" brigade were shouting their gobs off at the Ulster Rugby trial. Hypocrites!" Stop over reacting jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/04/2018 10:58:52 2094697 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "If their name is 'Gaelic players for life' why has every media outlet quoted the name of the group as being 'GAA athletes for a no vote'. Has there been a mass error in reporting standards across the entirety of the Irish media spectrum?" No error in reporting. They are playing on their GAA status. Revolving their campaign around a coaching clinic for kids etc. No issue with them campaigning be it for yes or no but they should not be using the GAA as part of it or implying that they are part of it. Even though some of them are from a different country (this usually gets a few going!!) they are still entitled to their opinion.......it just doesn't count in the ballot box! Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 24/04/2018 11:01:21 2094700 Link
Replying To worple: "Will you guys apply the same criticism to the crowd trading as 'GAA fans for choice'?" Never heard of them so obviously they are not doing too well:-) Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 24/04/2018 11:03:36 2094701 Link
[url=]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLGeaCRKzm8&feature=youtu.be - Filmed in a GAA ground. - Captioned as 'Tyrone GAA County Manager'. - Mickey introduces himself by saying 'You may know me from a sporting background'. Mickey is entitled to his personal views, but he shouldn't be blatantly trading on his role within Tyrone GAA to promote them - that is not what the Gaels of Tyrone appointed him to do. The Tyrone County Board should be having a word about abuse of his position, though I doubt they will. Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 24/04/2018 11:07:42 2094703 Link