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I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole. Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 23/04/2018 12:21:01 2094468 Link
Replying To OGarmaile: "Glad this has been stamped out regardless of opinions. Harte would be better off working out how to negate Conor McManus next month than pontificating on social matters." It is strange that he's getting involved so close to their first Ulster championship game. Remember, he won't be entitled to vote in the referendum itself and it won't affect the abortion laws in the north of Ireland. I can imagine the reaction I'd get if I went lobbying in Belfast for a border poll! cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 23/04/2018 12:26:36 2094469 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." Completely disagree with you Liam. This vote, although only being voted on by those resident in the ROI, has implications for everyone on the island. Realistically if abortion is freely available in the south, that makes it a lot more available for those in the north than it is at present. It'll be easier to travel to Letterkenny or Dundalk than it is to England. There are people campaigning, for both Yes and No, from the north because this result will directly affect them. To say that this vote won't have an effect on the north is very far wide of the mark. Of course those in the north are entitled to have their say, ludicrous to think otherwise. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 23/04/2018 12:40:34 2094471 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." Good man you're predictable if nothing else. bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 23/04/2018 12:45:04 2094474 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." Good man you're predictable if nothing else. bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 23/04/2018 12:45:07 2094475 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." That just comes across as insular, partitionist and petty. It's like someone living on the border saying because you're a Dub you have no right to comment on Brexit and the Irish border as it doesn't directly affect you. Ireland is a small place and this issue affects people on the entire island. Mickey Harte has every right to have his say on this, whether referring to the Association was correct I'm not so sure, probably not. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 23/04/2018 12:48:28 2094476 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." To be honest Liam, I don't have an issue with Mickey Harte campaigning, people from different jurisdictions will always turn up and try to influence others, it happens regularily and on all sides. For example only very recently some people down south were protesting against a decision made by a jury up north. Rightly or wrongly people do these things, that's life. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 23/04/2018 13:07:15 2094485 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." He has as much business / entitlement. I would lie to remind to that there is 32 counties in our little country. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 23/04/2018 13:08:58 2094488 Link
Replying To Htaem: "As a matter of interest, do you think the Gaa should offically endorse either side in this referendum? Or do you think it's best that they remain neutral?" neutral worple (Roscommon) - Posts: 339 - 23/04/2018 16:47:07 2094569 Link
sporting organisations should remain neutral when it comes to this referendum. ( I was going to say politics but the irony hit me !!) The GAA has members who will vote both yes and no. It's a decision for the voter, his/her conscience and the ballot box. If the GAA campaign for No, it will isolate the Yes voters and visa versa ! I certainly won't be swayed in any way by politicians, campaigners or any sporting organisation. I will read the facts and make an informed decision as possible. StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 23/04/2018 18:04:50 2094583 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Normally I would totally agree - a democratic decision should be respected. But given some of the claims made by the No side, I have to say I'd find it hard to accept a NO outcome if it comes to that. If they were to honestly present the facts of their argument to the general public then fair enough." So in other words you will respect the decision if it agrees with you which is in keeping with alot of the leaders of the yes side. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 23/04/2018 18:45:50 2094585 Link
Replying To StirringIt: "sporting organisations should remain neutral when it comes to this referendum. ( I was going to say politics but the irony hit me !!) The GAA has members who will vote both yes and no. It's a decision for the voter, his/her conscience and the ballot box. If the GAA campaign for No, it will isolate the Yes voters and visa versa ! I certainly won't be swayed in any way by politicians, campaigners or any sporting organisation. I will read the facts and make an informed decision as possible." And the GAA are staying neutral. There's one group of GAA people campaigning for a yes and another voting for a no. There is a balance. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 23/04/2018 18:48:07 2094587 Link
Fair play for the gaa and reinforceing the fact that the are neutral and in fairness to this group the didn't actually use the word gaa although you can understand the confusion. I wish the charities and trade unions many of whom get taxpayers funding not to mention ordinary members subs would stay neutral as well. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 23/04/2018 18:54:49 2094588 Link
Replying To ROS1: "Fair play for the gaa and reinforceing the fact that the are neutral and in fairness to this group the didn't actually use the word gaa although you can understand the confusion. I wish the charities and trade unions many of whom get taxpayers funding not to mention ordinary members subs would stay neutral as well." It's being reported that they named their group "GAA athletes for a no vote". Is that incorrect, every source I see is consistent with that being their groups name. Even if it isn't. They used a juvenile coaching event to plug their event. That photo of them with the kids absolutely sickens me. They are just using them for their own agenda. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 23/04/2018 20:05:11 2094600 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." Did you express similar outrage when Mary McAleese was President? Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/04/2018 20:06:57 2094601 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI. This referendum is for ROI not Ireland as a whole." "I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI." By that logic, nobody, anywhere should comment on anything that isn't in their own immediate jurisdiction. Do you put your hands over your ears when the news comes on the radio, just in case they mention something like Brexit, or the war in Syria? Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 23/04/2018 20:18:25 2094603 Link
Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "Did you express similar outrage when Mary McAleese was President?" Or when Dana won Eurovision Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 23/04/2018 20:31:10 2094608 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "It's being reported that they named their group "GAA athletes for a no vote". Is that incorrect, every source I see is consistent with that being their groups name. Even if it isn't. They used a juvenile coaching event to plug their event. That photo of them with the kids absolutely sickens me. They are just using them for their own agenda." My wife has had two miscarriages. She's not enjoying the city at the moment, not with practically every sign post showing pictures of the unborn within the womb at early stages of development, all around the time she/we lost them.. showing very descriptive images of a developing baby. We're blessed to have a child since then but yeah it's not pleasant being bombarded by constant reminders of some fairly deplorable times and it's especially anxious for her, seeing how descriptive the images have been portrayed. The No campaign are being very direct with their imagery so not surprising to see them posing beside young GAA kids in such a manner. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 23/04/2018 20:31:12 2094609 Link
Mickey and any other Gaa member can comment and campaign on this issue if they so please. They are not claiming to represent the whole Gaa family,no more than Eamonn mc gee did when he campaigned for a yes vote on the gay marriage issue. It's funny how some people get so angry at certain individuals when they disagree with them on these very sensitive issues. No doubt the people angry at Mickey are against the death penalty also. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 23/04/2018 21:02:11 2094614 Link
Replying To Cavan_Shambles: ""I will be destroyed for this but...... Mickey Harte has no business even commenting on this issue as it has nothing to do with him. He is not resident in the ROI." By that logic, nobody, anywhere should comment on anything that isn't in their own immediate jurisdiction. Do you put your hands over your ears when the news comes on the radio, just in case they mention something like Brexit, or the war in Syria?" Opinion is one thing canvassing is another. I agree with Liam Mickey is not eligible to cast a vote in the republic and should not be campaigning. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 23/04/2018 21:14:17 2094618 Link