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Replying To Brian_Coyote: "Westmeath are already through to the final and will put out a second string this weekend against Carlow while saving their lads for the JMcD final, so Antrim will not be in no Final. The only match where there is anything to play for is the Meath v Laois match where both teams are fighting to survive. Ger Loughnan last night on the Sunday Game had an interesting take on Offaly taking advantage of being relegated into the JMcD in 2019 and coming straight back up stronger and playing longer into the year, it was a fair point." Yeah we probably won't be, but that's a bit of a luck of the draw factor. We've still competed well and I feel there's a bit more pride in the team than there was 2 years ago. The Joe McDonagh cup is a higher standard than the Christy Ring that we couldn't win a 2 attempts. Westmeath will give fringe guys a game but those lads will be battling hard to get in a shot at starting a Croke Park final. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4217 - 04/06/2018 15:03:31 2107305 Link
Just wondering what the attendances have been in the Joe McDonagh? The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 04/06/2018 15:09:45 2107307 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "Just wondering what the attendances have been in the Joe McDonagh?" Westmeath vs Antrim I would say 1500 Westmeath vs Meath about 2000 other venues I don't know jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1456 - 04/06/2018 20:47:45 2107429 Link
would love to see merry win it and beat the last team in munster,imagine the clamour! perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 04/06/2018 22:47:04 2107486 Link
Replying To perfect10: "would love to see merry win it and beat the last team in munster,imagine the clamour!" Bit of a wum I see. Probably disagree with Galway being in Leinster and now getting home games no doubt. As a limerick man I would be devastated if we were relegated but would accept it if we lost all our games. Because, guess what, if you lose all your games you do deserve to be relegated. Tadhgmacda (Limerick) - Posts: 99 - 05/06/2018 01:13:01 2107518 Link
Replying To Tadhgmacda: "Bit of a wum I see. Probably disagree with Galway being in Leinster and now getting home games no doubt. As a limerick man I would be devastated if we were relegated but would accept it if we lost all our games. Because, guess what, if you lose all your games you do deserve to be relegated." Very easy to say you'd accept something you know is extreme unlikely to happen! Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 05/06/2018 08:35:02 2107543 Link
Replying To Pinkie: "Very easy to say you'd accept something you know is extreme unlikely to happen!" Finishing bottom in Munster is a possibility for pretty much all of the teams still. It's every bit as possible as winning the Munster championship is. Waterford come to limerick on Sunday if they beat us they are level on points and ahead of us due to the head to head. We must then go to Ennis and win which will be very tough. Lose there and it's very possible that we finish bottom. That's the beauty of this Munster Championship. Tadhgmacda (Limerick) - Posts: 99 - 05/06/2018 10:04:07 2107574 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "Yeah we probably won't be, but that's a bit of a luck of the draw factor. We've still competed well and I feel there's a bit more pride in the team than there was 2 years ago. The Joe McDonagh cup is a higher standard than the Christy Ring that we couldn't win a 2 attempts. Westmeath will give fringe guys a game but those lads will be battling hard to get in a shot at starting a Croke Park final." Dont know why westmeath should give fringe guys a game..they should go out and try beat carlow...carlow are the bogey team in the final preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 735 - 05/06/2018 13:41:25 2107676 Link
It'll take a few years for this competition to become established. While I think Offaly should remain in a 6 team Leinster Championship, the profile of the McDonagh Cup should be boosted by their participation next year. As far as I know, the McDonagh Cup teams will be at home in the preliminary quarter-finals. That's a massive opportunity for these teams to have a high profile game against a quality team as they aim to promote the game within their respective counties. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 06/06/2018 17:04:55 2108133 Link
Replying To preddan: "Dont know why westmeath should give fringe guys a game..they should go out and try beat carlow...carlow are the bogey team in the final" Hopefully, they do have a lot of hurling to come with a final and AI preliminary quarterfinal quickly after the Carlow game. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4217 - 06/06/2018 19:01:01 2108164 Link
Replying To Tadhgmacda: "Finishing bottom in Munster is a possibility for pretty much all of the teams still. It's every bit as possible as winning the Munster championship is. Waterford come to limerick on Sunday if they beat us they are level on points and ahead of us due to the head to head. We must then go to Ennis and win which will be very tough. Lose there and it's very possible that we finish bottom. That's the beauty of this Munster Championship." And then you've still got a chance of staying up, and are relying on Kerry winning. So about as likely as Longford beating Dublin in the football. Or hurling for that matter Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 06/06/2018 19:28:28 2108173 Link
It's been a middle of the road year for Kerry. 3 wins from 5 in the league and 3 wins from 5 in the championship. Carlow and Westmeath beat Kerry in both the league and championship. 10 quality games at Kerry's level has been fair enough. The 3 Munster League games at the start of the year were useful as well. I think Carlow and Westmeath will be guaranteed home advantage in their preliminary quarter-finals. Hopefully they can gain support within their respective counties for these games. Both have performed admirably at their level and are rewarded with a game against a top quality opponent. I would love to see Kerry taking on Wexford or whoever finishes 3rd in Munster. I'm sure the players of Carlow and Westmeath will relish the opportunity that this format is presenting for them. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 09/06/2018 21:54:05 2109127 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "It's been a middle of the road year for Kerry. 3 wins from 5 in the league and 3 wins from 5 in the championship. Carlow and Westmeath beat Kerry in both the league and championship. 10 quality games at Kerry's level has been fair enough. The 3 Munster League games at the start of the year were useful as well. I think Carlow and Westmeath will be guaranteed home advantage in their preliminary quarter-finals. Hopefully they can gain support within their respective counties for these games. Both have performed admirably at their level and are rewarded with a game against a top quality opponent. I would love to see Kerry taking on Wexford or whoever finishes 3rd in Munster. I'm sure the players of Carlow and Westmeath will relish the opportunity that this format is presenting for them." Well Legend, I actually think it's been a really positive campaign for us. Listen considering where Kerry inter county hurling was at 6-10 years ago, to be going up to somewhere like Cushendall and get a win is massive. If we had held out in the last few moments in the Carlow game we would be in the final now! Look we've a long way to go till we take our place amongst the Munster championships of this earth, but we are going in the right direction and it's brilliant to see the Crotta lads being such a vital part of the team! TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 10/06/2018 02:50:46 2109238 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Well Legend, I actually think it's been a really positive campaign for us. Listen considering where Kerry inter county hurling was at 6-10 years ago, to be going up to somewhere like Cushendall and get a win is massive. If we had held out in the last few moments in the Carlow game we would be in the final now! Look we've a long way to go till we take our place amongst the Munster championships of this earth, but we are going in the right direction and it's brilliant to see the Crotta lads being such a vital part of the team!" Hopefully Kerry can win the McDonagh Cup in the next few years. It'd be great to set up a play-off against the 5th team. I don't think Tipperary or Waterford this year would have enjoyed an experience of waiting for the McDonagh Cup final before knowing if a play-off is required or not. Tipperary or Waterford would be raging hot favourites obviously but it would be a strange scenario for them to be preparing for! legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 10/06/2018 22:21:00 2109616 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Hopefully Kerry can win the McDonagh Cup in the next few years. It'd be great to set up a play-off against the 5th team. I don't think Tipperary or Waterford this year would have enjoyed an experience of waiting for the McDonagh Cup final before knowing if a play-off is required or not. Tipperary or Waterford would be raging hot favourites obviously but it would be a strange scenario for them to be preparing for!" Hopefully Carlow and ourselves will do the competition proud in the final in Croke Park. The Mcdonagh has been a wonderful competition and with more marketing it would take a real life of its own. I think both finalists are fine hurling teams and should produce an excellent spectacle in Croker. jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1456 - 10/06/2018 23:54:19 2109662 Link
Well done to Kerry. I like their brand of Hurling. Some outstanding fielding and striking. Movement off the ball was crucial. To be fair, when we were 10pts up in the 1st half, I didn't think they would come back from that. I felt that the ball that hit their post when we were 10 up was crucial. Fair play to Kerry. This has been a great competition, with mostly close run, competitive matches. Its a crying shame the media and Croke park haven't put the work in to market it properly. It doesn't do county and club hurling any favours, particularly with the sacrifices some clubs are making to facilitate properly prepared county teams. Where do we go from here? Probably new management, if there is anyone out there who wants the job. No criticism of the current management team but it is clear that the extra 5-10% needed to close out games just wasn't there. Was very disappointed that we made simple mistakes through the campaign and were unable to gain enough primary possession at crucial times. Our attack was very one dimensional. When our key attacker was 2/3 man tagged, we didn't appear to have a plan 'B'. Which is a shame because we have talented forwards. 1.02 from play from our full forward line tells the story. There is an issue about the impact County team preparation is having at club level. There does need to be an honest, open discussion about how county and club can work together. I believe it is possible. Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 287 - 11/06/2018 12:29:06 2109905 Link
Twenty mins into the Kerry game Antrim were TEN points up, TOTALLY in command then they just stopped. For the next 50 mins Kerry took control as they had no real opposition. Neil McManus once AGAIN had to take on the mantle of a one man team as his team mates disappeared AGAIN. Antrim hurlers vindicated everything I have been saying for a while. They are brittle mentally and physically and other teams know it. They are easily rattled, get bullied and intimidated and have no stomach or courage for a fight, literally and metaphorically. The Antrim hurlers need 6 months in a boot camp to toughen them up. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9701 - 11/06/2018 14:23:06 2109961 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Twenty mins into the Kerry game Antrim were TEN points up, TOTALLY in command then they just stopped. For the next 50 mins Kerry took control as they had no real opposition. Neil McManus once AGAIN had to take on the mantle of a one man team as his team mates disappeared AGAIN. Antrim hurlers vindicated everything I have been saying for a while. They are brittle mentally and physically and other teams know it. They are easily rattled, get bullied and intimidated and have no stomach or courage for a fight, literally and metaphorically. The Antrim hurlers need 6 months in a boot camp to toughen them up." Utter, undiluted, nonsense. You're welcome! Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 287 - 11/06/2018 14:29:07 2109966 Link
Replying To Glensboy: "Utter, undiluted, nonsense. You're welcome!" Instead of posting abuse and insults why don't you address my points. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9701 - 11/06/2018 14:45:28 2109975 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Instead of posting abuse and insults why don't you address my points." I refuse to have dialog with an 'alleged' Antrim GAA person who continually criticises players. Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 287 - 11/06/2018 15:06:23 2109992 Link