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Tj what a great no nonsense hurler, typical KK legendary stock and another great in the making, love watching him.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 3586 - 11/04/2018 19:50:09    2092462

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Replying To tiobraid:  "It was a bad league all around in my opinion...quality wise. When you say "Tipp another poor performance in a final" - are you saying in general or just because of last year?
Tipps performances in finals for the last number of years have been mostly almost exceptional (apart from last years league). People dont remember losers too often but I think most will agree that Tipp have put in huge performances in finals since 09....so I think that comment is harsh at best.
Also over the years I believe we have a far higher win percentage at all levels in hurling than most counties (granted we have lost a lot of leagues recently)"
Tips performance in the last 2 league finals have been below par. I remember last year thinking that Galway would win their S/F against tip easy how wrong I was.
As supporters we sometimes wear blinkers and only see what we want to see . So far I seen KK as a one trick pony. Tip as a has been. While my beloved Galway have been well of the pace , I feel the pressure to win All Ireland last year is now gone and they will be hard to beat this year.

What we all have learned down through the years is some teams don't take the league serious and when the sod dries and a fast ball the skill full hurler comes to the top. So championship is a different animal and leauge form stands for Notting.

heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 197 - 11/04/2018 21:04:57    2092473

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Replying To heartbroken:  "Tips performance in the last 2 league finals have been below par. I remember last year thinking that Galway would win their S/F against tip easy how wrong I was.
As supporters we sometimes wear blinkers and only see what we want to see . So far I seen KK as a one trick pony. Tip as a has been. While my beloved Galway have been well of the pace , I feel the pressure to win All Ireland last year is now gone and they will be hard to beat this year.

What we all have learned down through the years is some teams don't take the league serious and when the sod dries and a fast ball the skill full hurler comes to the top. So championship is a different animal and leauge form stands for Notting."
'So far i seen KK as a one trick pony'

37 All Irelands v 5. Yeah..

I don't think KK will win the AI this year but like Cork and Tipperary they can transition overnight. We don't know the merits of any team yet until the championship starts. But KK have proven management and a winning mentality. Will Galway be as hungry as last year?

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 2 - 11/04/2018 23:02:42    2092488

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Replying To fantababy:  "Munster Championship ahead of Leinster! Peggy your bias knows no bounds and is silly.

For most of the period from the 1980s to 2010s the classier hurling was played in Leinster. Munster was an over hyped championship living on the glories of the 1940s to 60s. Since 2006 only 3 Munster teams have won all-irelands. 3 out of 12 is a pretty poor record for you to be putting a Munster medal ahead of a Leinster one.

If Limerick had at least one All Ireland won you might have some basis for an argument on how to take on Kilkenny but when you have no wins in adult hurling you can't be taken seriously like Tipperary who have won all-irelands in 2010 and 2016.

It's a harsh term but you are underachievers.I'm tired looking at Seamus Hickey's furrowed brow as another year slips by and he gives an emotional interview for the Sunday Game. A career that begun with such promise as a 19 year old in 2007 is now in the last lap of a crusade for a celtic cross.

I have nothing against Limerick and would love to see them win a Senior. But you've got to EARN it and forget the hard luck stories, forget baskink in U21 all-irelands which are past and mean nothing. Forget Na Piarsiagh, the U21's and focus on the now and you might win something.

Your mentality is one of a puffed up feeling of how good we are, i can tell you how to beat Kilkenny. That's all irrelevant to getting Limerick to win a Senior All-Ire. It's time you demanded more of yourselves."
Apologies that poster escaped on to the national forum. We tried to confine him (I'm sure this Peggy is no lady) to the Limerick page where we are used to his preposterosity!!!!

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 615 - 11/04/2018 23:08:47    2092489

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Replying To fantababy:  "Finally you're from Meath, most tourists and foreign visitors to Ireland don't even know it exists..

What has this got to do with the merits of TJ Reid? To call the statement childish does children a disservice."
Particularly stupid statement when you consider Meath is the location of the Newgrange monument and the Hill of Tara, site of the old High Kings of Ireland.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 613 - 12/04/2018 08:12:39    2092511

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Replying To heartbroken:  "Tips performance in the last 2 league finals have been below par. I remember last year thinking that Galway would win their S/F against tip easy how wrong I was.
As supporters we sometimes wear blinkers and only see what we want to see . So far I seen KK as a one trick pony. Tip as a has been. While my beloved Galway have been well of the pace , I feel the pressure to win All Ireland last year is now gone and they will be hard to beat this year.

What we all have learned down through the years is some teams don't take the league serious and when the sod dries and a fast ball the skill full hurler comes to the top. So championship is a different animal and leauge form stands for Notting."
You're right Galway will be hard beat and are my favs to win it currently but you're 100% wrong if you think the pressure being off is the reason they could win it. Galway went 29 years without winning an All Ireland simpley because they were never the best team in the country throughout any of them years.
There not one Galway team in that time that can be compared to what they have now. Quality and not pressure was the reason they didnt win it.
If they dont win it this year then it'll possibly come down to hunger or tactics. Their inability to create and score goals could be another reason.
Also you are contradicting yourself when you said League form counts for nothing but Tipp dont show up in finals (then you mentioed the league as the finals they havent showed up in)

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2317 - 12/04/2018 13:42:00    2092578

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There is not much in it but I would probably still pick Henry Sheflin over TJ Reid.

Sheflin set the tempo for his team, gave teammates goal chances on silver plates and was the finisher himself when needed. I find with Reid he tries to carry the burden of team in his own shoulders more.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2117 - 12/04/2018 18:39:49    2092657

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TJ's ability speaks for itself. No argument about that. However the more accolades and hype that is heaped upon players the more pressure on them to perform. Austin Gleeson an example. He must be delighted that the spot light is off him. Though in fairness Gleeson is 23 and TJ is 30. They may say the hype does not effect them and they do not read it but I have doubts about that. Also these special players become targets of the opposition and no matter how good can be stopped.
Before anyone jumps on me I am not putting TJ down or would not any player.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 173 - 12/04/2018 23:46:08    2092718

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Replying To Faithfull:  "League and All Ireland Double
2001 - Tipperary
2002 - Kilkenny
2003 - Kilkenny
2006 - Kilkenny
2009 - Kilkenny
2012 - Kilkenny
2014 - Kilkenny
2017 - Galway

It happens more often than you might think."
Mainly Kilkenny, who always take the League very seriously and especially under Coady. Other than Kilkenny since 1965 Cork Tipp and Galway have only achieved the double once and nobody else has.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1440 - 13/04/2018 00:29:20    2092730

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Replying To fantababy:  "I never said all-irelands were. But that Limerick poster, Peggy, is going on about how to beat Kilkenny and how to run at them. It's a bit rich given Limerick's efforts in September. 1994, thrown away, 1996 a poor all ireland to be won, beyond ye, 2007, got excited after beating Waterford in the semi. Beat Kilkenny in 1973 and 5 of the best Kilkenny players were missing.

TJ Reid's pace.. very difficult to judge pace but he's a strong man with a big stride. And as for All Irelands not being given out in April, yes you would know.

But we're going to be subjected to a lot of rubbish about the Limerick U21 hurlers when history shows you can't win anything in Senior with them bar a few Munsters and a league in 1992. 2000-2002, zilch. Give me the Kilkenny template anyday. That Peggy lady from your county was needlessly dismissive of Kilkenny. And it was very rich coming from her. And also talking about Clare as if they were the hurling Harlem Globetrotters. Give us a break. Another underachieving team. Kilkenny have won 2 all-irelands with an average team since they won one."
As regards Clare they have won an All Ireland and a National league in this decade. Not bad for a county that has only won four All Irelands and four National Leagues. Btw it was four KK players who were missing in 73 and Limerick were missing Mickey Graham, the most versatile hurler that ever played with the county, Jim O'Donnell, the centre back, who aggravated an old injury in the Munster Final after being man of the match in the first round, Leonard Enright, who first played for the county in 1970 and played his last game in 1988 and was a three times All Star.and Mick O'Loughlin who could not give the necessary committment, as Eamon Morrrissey could not do in Kilkenny, and was widely recognised as the best corner back county in 73 and for many years afterwards. Remember also that team went to Thurles and beat Tipperary something KK did once in 80 years from 1922 to 2002.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1440 - 13/04/2018 00:43:29    2092731

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Mainly Kilkenny, who always take the League very seriously and especially under Coady. Other than Kilkenny since 1965 Cork Tipp and Galway have only achieved the double once and nobody else has."
Yes and mainly because the greatest team of all time were around and were almost unbeatable regardless of other counties talking the league seriously. They must not have been to serious about the All Ireland either in those yrs.

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 325 - 13/04/2018 11:56:37    2092789

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Replying To heartbroken:  "Tips performance in the last 2 league finals have been below par. I remember last year thinking that Galway would win their S/F against tip easy how wrong I was.
As supporters we sometimes wear blinkers and only see what we want to see . So far I seen KK as a one trick pony. Tip as a has been. While my beloved Galway have been well of the pace , I feel the pressure to win All Ireland last year is now gone and they will be hard to beat this year.

What we all have learned down through the years is some teams don't take the league serious and when the sod dries and a fast ball the skill full hurler comes to the top. So championship is a different animal and leauge form stands for Notting."
Can you explain in what way Kilkenny are a one trick pony?

By the way I don't think Kilkenny will win the All Ireland this year but whoever beats them will be very close to winning one.

KK4Life (Kilkenny) - Posts: 39 - 13/04/2018 12:34:09    2092809

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Replying To KK4Life:  "Can you explain in what way Kilkenny are a one trick pony?

By the way I don't think Kilkenny will win the All Ireland this year but whoever beats them will be very close to winning one."
My comments concerns the here and now , yes KK have won numerous All Ireland s . I see KK reliant on TJ Read , I feel they are suspect at the back big Walter Walsh can do damage if he is allowed. With my blinkers I feel Galway have their measure at the moment. To my friend Tip supporter KK have nearly always have the beating of ye and I was disappointed that ye put up such a poor performance against them in leauge final. This new championship structure will make all Ireland hard won two often in the past teams cruise into All Ireland SF with a hard game.
While we can never take away past achievement we need to stop living in the past and accept we are only as good as our last match.

heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 197 - 13/04/2018 22:15:19    2092923

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Galway have an atrocious record against Kilkenny over the last 10 years.
Am I right in saying Galway have only beaten Kilkenny once in their last 10 championship meetings? That was the 2012 Leinster Final and then Kilkenny bet them in the All Ireland final in the same year.
And I wouldn't be so certain Galway would beat them this summer either.
TJ Reid would have way too much Hurling for Gearoid McInerney (who is a superb athlete btw).

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 91 - 13/04/2018 23:12:01    2092945

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Replying To KK4Life:  "Can you explain in what way Kilkenny are a one trick pony?

By the way I don't think Kilkenny will win the All Ireland this year but whoever beats them will be very close to winning one."
I'm pleased with the progress the team has made this year and that the younger players have shown they can be at least competitive against the best teams in the country, but at the same time we'd be lost without TJ at the moment. Hopefully Richie Hogan can come back fully fit, and Colin Fennelly too. Full back remains a problem position in my opinion. Was disappointed Kieran Joyce retired at only 30, I thought he would have been a good option to try there. I agree though, I can't see us winning the AI this year.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 613 - 14/04/2018 07:04:56    2092956

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Replying To ballydalane:  "I'm pleased with the progress the team has made this year and that the younger players have shown they can be at least competitive against the best teams in the country, but at the same time we'd be lost without TJ at the moment. Hopefully Richie Hogan can come back fully fit, and Colin Fennelly too. Full back remains a problem position in my opinion. Was disappointed Kieran Joyce retired at only 30, I thought he would have been a good option to try there. I agree though, I can't see us winning the AI this year."
I am sixty years following the games and you never ever write off Kilkenny. Three teams are coming 'out of Leinster' and KK are almost bound to be one of them. After that it can go anyway but KK can only improve. Coady has got such an improvement out them young U21 players already you wonder how they performed so poorly under Eddie Brennan.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 1440 - 14/04/2018 09:50:03    2092963

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "I am sixty years following the games and you never ever write off Kilkenny. Three teams are coming 'out of Leinster' and KK are almost bound to be one of them. After that it can go anyway but KK can only improve. Coady has got such an improvement out them young U21 players already you wonder how they performed so poorly under Eddie Brennan."
Cody is consistently ruthless in his standards if you get called into the Kilkenny panel. Nobody is allowed cross the line.
Eddie Brennnan let a few incidents pass with certain players on nights out and drinking and I think some of the under 21 players saw him as a softer touch.
Try any of that messing under Cody's watch and the closest you'll get to training in Nowlan Park is picking around with the kids at half time.
That's the difference

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 91 - 14/04/2018 21:52:41    2093029

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Replying To heartbroken:  "My comments concerns the here and now , yes KK have won numerous All Ireland s . I see KK reliant on TJ Read , I feel they are suspect at the back big Walter Walsh can do damage if he is allowed. With my blinkers I feel Galway have their measure at the moment. To my friend Tip supporter KK have nearly always have the beating of ye and I was disappointed that ye put up such a poor performance against them in leauge final. This new championship structure will make all Ireland hard won two often in the past teams cruise into All Ireland SF with a hard game.
While we can never take away past achievement we need to stop living in the past and accept we are only as good as our last match."
You are right they nearly always have had the beating of us but they've always had the beating of everyone else!
Galway were the best team in the country last year but not too many other counties were hectic last year.
As I said - I think Galway are favs to do back to back. You have to realise though that Tipp went into the final without 5 guaranteed starting forwards and you could add in Niall O'Meara as a man who is normally first in off the bench. We got to a league final playing every game with virtually half a team. Having said that, I was disappointed with a lot of aspects from what we might have got from the league but its not as bad as some have said either.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2317 - 16/04/2018 08:30:36    2093193

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You are right they nearly always have had the beating of us but they've always had the beating of everyone else!
Galway were the best team in the country last year but not too many other counties were hectic last year.
As I said - I think Galway are favs to do back to back. You have to realise though that Tipp went into the final without 5 guaranteed starting forwards and you could add in Niall O'Meara as a man who is normally first in off the bench. We got to a league final playing every game with virtually half a team. Having said that, I was disappointed with a lot of aspects from what we might have got from the league but its not as bad as some have said either."
Agree with this. Too much made out of Tipp's record against KK. Believe me Tipp will be in the mix come August. Your biggest issue is consistency of performance over a number of yrs an affliction we all suffer bar KK in their heyday.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1181 - 16/04/2018 09:32:21    2093201

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You are right they nearly always have had the beating of us but they've always had the beating of everyone else!
Galway were the best team in the country last year but not too many other counties were hectic last year.
As I said - I think Galway are favs to do back to back. You have to realise though that Tipp went into the final without 5 guaranteed starting forwards and you could add in Niall O'Meara as a man who is normally first in off the bench. We got to a league final playing every game with virtually half a team. Having said that, I was disappointed with a lot of aspects from what we might have got from the league but its not as bad as some have said either."
Your honesty is respected. roll on the championship if we get an another epic Tip v Galway I think my heart will give in such pressure in Groke Park last year, I have never seen fans so drained after a match. great credit to both teams.

heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 197 - 16/04/2018 10:23:07    2093213

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