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Galway Clubs knew that the championship would kick off in May.
County Players were released to their clubs to play league games in April which interestingly a win gets you 3 points as opposed to 2 points for fixtures were county players are not released.
April is where clubs will get 2-3 league games in then a break for 2 weeks before galway v mayo then the fun starts.
CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!

TribalThing (Galway) - Posts: 62 - 10/04/2018 15:47:08    2092133

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In Louth, the Junior (2nd teams) league is to start next week on Tuesday night.

1/2 of the league will be over in 4 weeks and the semis/finals of these leagues will still be going on in Oct/Nov.

Thats players from teams who have no county players!

Thats the life of a club payer summed up.

DundalkGael (Louth) - Posts: 783 - 10/04/2018 17:49:20    2092188

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In Louth, the Junior (2nd teams) league is to start next week on Tuesday night.
1/2 of the league will be over in 4 weeks and the semis/finals of these leagues will still be going on in Oct/Nov.
Thats players from teams who have no county players!
Thats the life of a club payer summed up.
DundalkGael (Louth) - Posts: 766 - 10/04/2018 17:49:20
Why do clubs and the players put up with that?
What do players play for the entire summer if half their league is over in a months time?
How many games would junior and 2nd teams get every year between all competitions?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/04/2018 22:38:51    2092241

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Sometime around then. We requested the dates for the u20 championship. We got a link to the plan then."
With all due respect the Master Plan in Galway is always a farce. While my own county isnt great, galway is a lot worse.
some teams regualrly take a break after the first few hurling games and most teams havent a clue when theyre playing. Lads go on J1's for a whole summer and dont miss a game.

The only way forward has to be for an all out strike by all club teams. It's ridiculous across the country.
I'd certainly be in favour of running the whole club cship once the intercounty is over. Playing 2/3 games in April and possibly having one game left to play in September - which may or may not be meaningless for some clubs is a crazy situation....and that situation has happened. Some clubs have had all their games played in a group and were waiting on one remaining game (not involving them) to be played 3 months later....a result either way decided if they were in a relegation semi or finished for the year!!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2422 - 11/04/2018 16:24:19    2092418

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Kerry are playing off their club championships every weekend in April.
All county players playing too and it is working a treat.
If Eamon Fitz had tried to stop them, then he would have been lynched.

So all in all clubs need to stand up for themselves.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 1954 - 11/04/2018 16:45:24    2092427

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Replying To woops:  "Kerry are playing off their club championships every weekend in April.
All county players playing too and it is working a treat.
If Eamon Fitz had tried to stop them, then he would have been lynched.

So all in all clubs need to stand up for themselves."
Is that just the club championship with the county championship then being left to later in the season.

I've played and been knocked out of championship in April before. It makes the season crap.

April for championship when a team only has 1 championship is a stupid decision.

I'll post a calendar here that I think would be more workable.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2050 - 11/04/2018 18:19:41    2092444

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4th March NFL 1 NHL 1
11th March NFL 2 NHL 2
18th March NFL 3
25th March Club hurling 1
1st April Club football 1
8th April NHL 3
15th April NFL 4 NHL 4
22nd April Ulster Leinster Football 1 NHL5
29th April NHL6
6th May Club football 2
13th May Club hurling 2
20th May NFL5
27th May Provincial football quarterfinals, NHL7
3rd June Provincial Hurling quarterfinals
10th June Club football 3
17th June Club hurling 3
24th June NFL6
1st July Provincial football semifinals, NHL8
8th July Provincial Hurling semifinals
15th July Club football 4
22nd July Club hurling 4
29th July NFL7
5th August Provincial Football finals, AI Football round 1 NHL9
12th August AI Football round 2, Provincial Hurling finals, AI Hurling round 1
19th August AI Football round 3, AI Hurling round 2
26th August AI Hurling quarterfinals
2nd September AI Football quarterfinals AI Hurling semifinals
9th September AI Football semifinals
16th September AI Hurling final
23rd September AI Football final

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2050 - 11/04/2018 18:21:48    2092446

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This has to come from the top.

County boards are shafted by how badly the intercounty competitions are scheduled. County boards haven't a hope of playing and scheduling their championships in a way that's accommodating if the club player.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2050 - 11/04/2018 18:24:08    2092448

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I don't understand why county boards capitulate to the managers they employ talk about the tail wagging the dog. Just say no! this is it! end off! don't like it? there is the door - its really not that complicated.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 3690 - 11/04/2018 19:43:45    2092460

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Replying To tiobraid:  "With all due respect the Master Plan in Galway is always a farce. While my own county isnt great, galway is a lot worse.
some teams regualrly take a break after the first few hurling games and most teams havent a clue when theyre playing. Lads go on J1's for a whole summer and dont miss a game.

The only way forward has to be for an all out strike by all club teams. It's ridiculous across the country.
I'd certainly be in favour of running the whole club cship once the intercounty is over. Playing 2/3 games in April and possibly having one game left to play in September - which may or may not be meaningless for some clubs is a crazy situation....and that situation has happened. Some clubs have had all their games played in a group and were waiting on one remaining game (not involving them) to be played 3 months later....a result either way decided if they were in a relegation semi or finished for the year!!"
Complete joke. It is every year. They have two weekends of club championship in a row after Galway play Mayo. I don't know if that means the county board are expecting a win or a loss but I don't see it happening either way. Moving to a group system is a small improvement as draws and replys can't hold things up till the latter end of the championship. Even look at the hurling first road was last weekend. Final is fixed for the 4th of November. Nearly seven months. Starting on heavy pitches finishing on heavy pitches.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 255 - 11/04/2018 20:46:30    2092471

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