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Replying To salvador: "For some reason I Taught Cavan may have been hiding a big performance. Outclassed all over, unfortunately for Cavan they will never beat any decent team because they have no forwards simple as that. Donegal have some classy young lads in Thomson,Langan and Brennan to compliment the marquee player's. They will give Tyrone/Monaghan loads of it." Spot on ! Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 13/05/2018 22:40:44 2100253 Link
Hard luck to Cavan they'll have better days ahead, they just didn't get to the pace of the game today, we have a lot to work on despite the big margin today, we won't get as much room the next day. still though at least we are playing good football now since RG went home. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 13/05/2018 23:42:15 2100294 Link
Replying To neverright: "As a Roscommon supporter, the performance of Cavan worries me as they are at about the same level as ourselves. Donegal are a huge team - I wonder what the average height of the team is. Murphy had a great game and controlled the tempo of the game. They kicked some fantastic points today. It will be interesting to see how such high kicking would fare out on a windy day. It was a very easy game to control but I thought the standard of reffing was very poor. The future looks bright for Donegal but it will be difficult for Mattie to pick up this Cavan team after the manner of this defeat" I would not be overly worried from a Roscommon perspective. What Roscommon have that Cavan don't is quality forwards. Roscommon got promoted without taking the league too seriously much like I expect Donegal to do the same next year because they are are genuine division 1 teams. The rossies will give the much hyped Galway their fill in the Connaught final and be no pushover in the super 8's esp with the experience of the last couple of years behind them. There is a quality management team there and Roscommon have some very exciting young players with plenty of room for improvement which make them an exciting team to follow in my eyes. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 14/05/2018 00:13:34 2100303 Link
Cavan bench seemed weak. Particularly the fact that two of the subs introduced didn't start because of injury...surely they were not fit to play, you need to be in peak condition to play championship. Also, P McBrearty didn't get a look in until they took his marker off before half time...another odd decision on the line. I hope Cavan get a good run in the qualifiers, they didn't do themselves justice today and I feel their sideline men let them down too. bangedupabroad (Roscommon) - Posts: 126 - 14/05/2018 02:32:45 2100316 Link
A decent performance from our lads against an admittedly disappointing Cavan team. Scoring 2-20 (2-17 from play I believe) is not to be sniffed at. Especially when McBrearty was well shackled for the majority of the match. Our long range point taking was superb and we could have had another two goals. I was talking to Terry Hyland in the Villa Rose before the match and he feared Cavan were going to be a bit too green to seriously challenge us on the day. He mentioned a number of Championship debutants on the starting 15 plus there were another 3 or 4 on the bench. So it proved. They looked a bit lightweight, certainly in attack anyway. Like others have mentioned I'd be a bit concerned at how Cavan broke through the middle on a number of occasions. In Jimmy's time any opposition attack attempting that was quickly and ruthlessly gobbled up. I think if we can tighten up in that regard we can certainly aim for the Ulster final and hopefully the super 8's. Playing championship football in August will bring these young lads on a ton. Lastly, what more can be said about Murphy? A colossus. Ball winner, play-maker, score taker. Just class. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 14/05/2018 09:11:03 2100356 Link
Decent opener and I for one enjoyed the game yesterday. Cavan were better than the scoreline suggested as they had an awful lot of wides second half. No point harping back to Jim's days in charge and although I can totally understand that our defence needs tightened up,I for one would take that type of attacking football anyday over the muck which we have had to endure in the not too distant past. Lots of positives to take from yesterday and it's a Job done and an improvement on the league games. InishowenMan (Donegal) - Posts: 216 - 14/05/2018 09:36:34 2100368 Link
Soundly beaten in all areas of the field yesterday, no excuses. However, what really cost us in that game was our terrible chance conversion. We were in for a few goal chances only for the wrong pass at the vital moment. Substitutions were strange too, on a positive note Caoimhín O'Reilly making his championship debut (I think) was a bright spark up front, scored 1-3 yet was replaced? Donegal will give Tyrone or Monaghan a tough game in the final. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 14/05/2018 10:35:42 2100404 Link
Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "Soundly beaten in all areas of the field yesterday, no excuses. However, what really cost us in that game was our terrible chance conversion. We were in for a few goal chances only for the wrong pass at the vital moment. Substitutions were strange too, on a positive note Caoimhín O'Reilly making his championship debut (I think) was a bright spark up front, scored 1-3 yet was replaced? Donegal will give Tyrone or Monaghan a tough game in the final." I thought you were right about the goal chances but the shooting for points were all pressure shots and from well out the pitch. Cavan got some great scores but failed equally. That is more down to percentages than it is to do with bad shooting as they were all difficult. WE have work to do in defence no question about that. I cant understand why Cavan took off the man who was marking Paddy Mc. That didn't make any sense. I also think that McVitty is a huge loss to Cavan and they really are going to struggle without him. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 14/05/2018 11:05:51 2100433 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "I thought you were right about the goal chances but the shooting for points were all pressure shots and from well out the pitch. Cavan got some great scores but failed equally. That is more down to percentages than it is to do with bad shooting as they were all difficult. WE have work to do in defence no question about that. I cant understand why Cavan took off the man who was marking Paddy Mc. That didn't make any sense. I also think that McVitty is a huge loss to Cavan and they really are going to struggle without him." There are two moments for me that stand out as regards goal chances for Cavan, one was literally an empty net scenario when our player fumbled the ball when he had a tap in opportunity. That was early in the first half when the game was still evenly poised. I believe it was actually our full back who had the chance, I have no idea what he was doing up that end of the field, but it was very much a case of wrong man in the right place. Secondly, Mackey was in for a one on one only to receive a bad final pass which Neil McGee intercepted. That's a possible six point swing. Having said that our keeper made some super saves to deny your lads too on a few occasions. I think had we McVeety on since the start we've have had at least one more goal, but such is football, ifs and buts. All round Donegal were comprehensively better. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 14/05/2018 11:18:00 2100447 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "I thought you were right about the goal chances but the shooting for points were all pressure shots and from well out the pitch. Cavan got some great scores but failed equally. That is more down to percentages than it is to do with bad shooting as they were all difficult. WE have work to do in defence no question about that. I cant understand why Cavan took off the man who was marking Paddy Mc. That didn't make any sense. I also think that McVitty is a huge loss to Cavan and they really are going to struggle without him." I think the guy marking mcBrearty had just been booked for not having a gum shield? That's what it looked like to me. They couldn't risk leaving him on then. I noticed when watching it on BBC a few Cavan players were sent to the line for gum shields before the guy was booked for it. Crazy that a player would not have a gum shield in. Training all year to get on the team, doing a great job on McB, then get hauled off because of a booking for no gum shield himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 14/05/2018 12:23:43 2100500 Link
Replying To himachechy: "I think the guy marking mcBrearty had just been booked for not having a gum shield? That's what it looked like to me. They couldn't risk leaving him on then. I noticed when watching it on BBC a few Cavan players were sent to the line for gum shields before the guy was booked for it. Crazy that a player would not have a gum shield in. Training all year to get on the team, doing a great job on McB, then get hauled off because of a booking for no gum shield" I think he fouled someone off the all - wouldn't be the first time. kitog (UK) - Posts: 14 - 14/05/2018 12:47:07 2100512 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "I thought you were right about the goal chances but the shooting for points were all pressure shots and from well out the pitch. Cavan got some great scores but failed equally. That is more down to percentages than it is to do with bad shooting as they were all difficult. WE have work to do in defence no question about that. I cant understand why Cavan took off the man who was marking Paddy Mc. That didn't make any sense. I also think that McVitty is a huge loss to Cavan and they really are going to struggle without him." not all of Cavan's wides were difficult chances (especially if you compare them to some of your lads scores). I think there was about 4 that certainly should have gone over. We should have scored that goal too in the first half. So despite the fact that apparently we "didn't turn up" we still had 13 wides and a few missed goal opportunities. So the problem with Cavan as it has been for a number of years is quality forwards or players who can kick scores. Donegal had 22 scores Cavan had 16. Donegal had 4 wides we had 13. Donegal also had 2 goal bound shots saved and a goal dissallowed (although I think the 45 that Murphy took and McHugh punched in came from one of those saves. Cavan had also 2 good goal chances. So although yes Donegal were much the better team , I don't think Cavan lacked intensity or as some said "didn't turn up). It's the age-old curse of not being able to take scores that is killing us. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 14/05/2018 13:13:52 2100532 Link
Replying To s goldrick: "not all of Cavan's wides were difficult chances (especially if you compare them to some of your lads scores). I think there was about 4 that certainly should have gone over. We should have scored that goal too in the first half. So despite the fact that apparently we "didn't turn up" we still had 13 wides and a few missed goal opportunities. So the problem with Cavan as it has been for a number of years is quality forwards or players who can kick scores. Donegal had 22 scores Cavan had 16. Donegal had 4 wides we had 13. Donegal also had 2 goal bound shots saved and a goal dissallowed (although I think the 45 that Murphy took and McHugh punched in came from one of those saves. Cavan had also 2 good goal chances. So although yes Donegal were much the better team , I don't think Cavan lacked intensity or as some said "didn't turn up). It's the age-old curse of not being able to take scores that is killing us." ah here, Donegal were playing on a different wave length altogether. they done everything quicker and slicker. Cavan breaking out of defence was slow and ponderous. Not saying Donegal were flat out but their movement was miles ahead. Cavan allowed Donegal in for such handy scores as they never laid a hand on them. Lads were marking space. its been happening throughout the league. I have to disagree with you on your last sentence, Cavan lacked intensity, or should i say they lacked the intensity of Donegal theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 14/05/2018 14:00:10 2100558 Link
The game was a perfect result for Donegal. Played well without getting out of 4th gear. Murphy looks fit and refreshed and most importantly played in a position which is perfect for him. The young players shone, I think last year the were caught in the headlights a bit so they showed they can handle the championship. McBrearty was quiet enough, still good but not the stand out player so he will improve in games to come. However Declan will know there are things to work in. Conceded 1-15 and more goal chances. Poor start. But it's better seeing them now and working on them for the bigger battles ahead. Cavan weren't bad, if they have Martin Reilly and McVetty for the qualifiers and a few home draws they could be in with a shout of the super 8's. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 14/05/2018 15:47:46 2100621 Link
Where was Odhran MacNiachlais yday ? Why wasn't he playing stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 14/05/2018 19:19:38 2100738 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "The game was a perfect result for Donegal. Played well without getting out of 4th gear. Murphy looks fit and refreshed and most importantly played in a position which is perfect for him. The young players shone, I think last year the were caught in the headlights a bit so they showed they can handle the championship. McBrearty was quiet enough, still good but not the stand out player so he will improve in games to come. However Declan will know there are things to work in. Conceded 1-15 and more goal chances. Poor start. But it's better seeing them now and working on them for the bigger battles ahead. Cavan weren't bad, if they have Martin Reilly and McVetty for the qualifiers and a few home draws they could be in with a shout of the super 8's." I disagree about Cavan making the super 8 competition. It means they have to win 4 games in a row. When was the last time they did this? That would also include winning against teams of they calibre of Monaghan/tyrone, mayo, possibly donegal, possibly Roscommon, meath, Kildare, cork, you get the picture. I cant see it happening. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 14/05/2018 19:50:30 2100743 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "I disagree about Cavan making the super 8 competition. It means they have to win 4 games in a row. When was the last time they did this? That would also include winning against teams of they calibre of Monaghan/tyrone, mayo, possibly donegal, possibly Roscommon, meath, Kildare, cork, you get the picture. I cant see it happening." I don't think Cavan will fear Roscommon, Meath, Kildare, Cork, it's Cavan who got of Div 2, even when they play Monaghan it's usually close. Especially at home. No saying it's going to happen but it wouldn't be the massive shock The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 14/05/2018 20:07:11 2100752 Link
Replying To stekhli: "Where was Odhran MacNiachlais yday ? Why wasn't he playing" Some of the players apparently carrying slight knocks so weren't included in the 26: Odhran Mac Niallais Paddy Mc Grath Marty O' Reilly Martin Mc Elhinney Nathan Mullins Niall O' Donnell (although word is that he is going with the U20's) Some good players to welcome back. Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 14/05/2018 21:47:50 2100783 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "I don't think Cavan will fear Roscommon, Meath, Kildare, Cork, it's Cavan who got of Div 2, even when they play Monaghan it's usually close. Especially at home. No saying it's going to happen but it wouldn't be the massive shock" Cavan have been training very hard since November. They kind of put all their eggs in the league 2 final and first round of the championship basket. They obviously were hollowed out by the defeat to Ross. I think that they will not find a way back this season. Other teams will have timed their runs a bit better than they. They are going to be emotionally bankrupt after yesterday's game. Yes they normally give Monaghan a good hard match in the championship, but never in the back door. They actually normally give any team a good game in the first round of the championship but yesterday they were not at the races. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 14/05/2018 22:06:53 2100787 Link
Replying To Tir Conaill Abu: "Some of the players apparently carrying slight knocks so weren't included in the 26: Odhran Mac Niallais Paddy Mc Grath Marty O' Reilly Martin Mc Elhinney Nathan Mullins Niall O' Donnell (although word is that he is going with the U20's) Some good players to welcome back." Some competition for places in the squad never mind the team. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 14/05/2018 22:10:37 2100792 Link