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Donegal Vs Cavan

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Agree about our midfield, I'd imagine it'll be Gearoid and Clarke. Gearoid was poor during the league, I hope he's managed to find a bit of form lately. As for marking McBrearty I'd imagine Clarke will be given that role, personally I think he's more than capable of it. If not him, it'll be Faulkner."
we really are missing a few midfielders, Buchanan and Corr are big losses, particularly Corr. I agree, Clarke needs that game on Mc Brearty. I feel as though he's unsettled out the pitch and will play better if he's given a specific role to focus on and what can be more specific than man marking Mc Brearty. Sometimes i pity Gearoid. His confidence is very clearly fragile and i think he's lacking a lot of it lately for some reason. But the ability is undoubted. Kick outs will be vital and i feel our keeper will be the more experienced in this department. I'd be aiming to flood midfield with bodies early on to rush him a bit, of course that's depending on Cavan getting the ball that far forward in the first place.

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 10/05/2018 17:13:33    2097933

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I agree with the overall sentiment of Donegal having more quality and I feel this will play out on Sunday. I am not sure we are any better in Breffini or away so I don't really think that comes into play. over the past couple of seasons our work ethic can not be questioned and I expect us to work really hard again this time round. I agree with the poster who says about keeping Mackey in reserve. he has had a far greater impact on games coming of the bench to finish games even if he comes on after 25 minutes then when he starts and then management are guessing when he is running out of steam. (that no disrespect to the man, he's been going a long time given everything in the blue). McKiernan flatters to deceive especially in the big games. so hard not to start him because of his potential and I just cant fathom what's missing to make him more consistent. we will really miss Mc veety and if I am to believe what I am hearing one or two more key players.
sadly though when is comes down I fear it will be the quality of Donegal forwards the will prevail on Sunday.

Heart : Cavan by 2
Head Donegal by 6

kitog (UK) - Posts: 14 - 11/05/2018 10:40:26    2098216

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Replying To theweanling:  "we really are missing a few midfielders, Buchanan and Corr are big losses, particularly Corr. I agree, Clarke needs that game on Mc Brearty. I feel as though he's unsettled out the pitch and will play better if he's given a specific role to focus on and what can be more specific than man marking Mc Brearty. Sometimes i pity Gearoid. His confidence is very clearly fragile and i think he's lacking a lot of it lately for some reason. But the ability is undoubted. Kick outs will be vital and i feel our keeper will be the more experienced in this department. I'd be aiming to flood midfield with bodies early on to rush him a bit, of course that's depending on Cavan getting the ball that far forward in the first place."
Agree about Gearoid, he's unmarkable against the lesser teams, he'll kick 5 or 6 scores from play no problem, but when the going gets tough against the big boys he fades.

I hope we don't adopt the same kickout strategy that we did against Tipp in the league. We only won that game when we pushed up on their kickouts and got a grip at midfield, this team is better going man to man.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 11/05/2018 16:50:47    2099310

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Donegal to win quite convincingly (sorry Cavan fans, great bunch). Ballybofey is a tight, intimidating ground. Man for man Donegal are well, I feel, ahead of Cavan, especially in the forward line. With McVeety not playing or isn't fully fit it makes the task even more difficult. 6-10 win for Donegal pulling up.
Cavan may make a run in the qualifiers if they get a few favourable home draws, but will probably fall short of the super 8's.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 11/05/2018 17:19:45    2099395

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Alot of positives for Cavan in todays racing post GAA pullout. I imagine that will continue to Sunday in its tipping section when it comes to the game itself. However the chief GAA analyst could not tip a bucket of sand.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2779 - 11/05/2018 17:38:41    2099453

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Donegal to win quite convincingly (sorry Cavan fans, great bunch). Ballybofey is a tight, intimidating ground. Man for man Donegal are well, I feel, ahead of Cavan, especially in the forward line. With McVeety not playing or isn't fully fit it makes the task even more difficult. 6-10 win for Donegal pulling up.
Cavan may make a run in the qualifiers if they get a few favourable home draws, but will probably fall short of the super 8's."
true. given the fact the 2 teams from Tyrone/Monaghan and Galway/Mayo will be in the first round qualifier draw someone is going to very unlucky to get one of those. It could be a short summer for us.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 11/05/2018 22:14:20    2099747

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Really looking forward to this one (deferred coverage and phone off). Both teams have bravely remodelled themselves as attacking outfits through the league; it will be interesting to see if they can stick to those principles when the chips are down.
You would have to say it all points to a Donegal win, but Cavan are long overdue a big scalp in the championship and today might be the day. They have to address their tendency to have a bad 20-30 minutes in every game which often proves their downfall. To me it looks like they are short of a couple of really dogged leaders on the pitch to pull them through these periods. The senior men will have to put that right today. Donegal on the other hand can always look to Murphy, McGee, Frank McGlynn and McBrearty to steady the ship. If Cavans youthful forwards can get a run on Donegal early on then it will have to be followed up relentlessly. Not sure if they have the legs on the bench so goals will be needed. McKiernan named at 14 is interesting however Neil McGee will be happy enough if he stays planted on the square with back to goal. Mckiernan will need to drift out and try to get McGee turned and running. Donegal half forwards pose a big threat on the run at an open enough looking Cavan HB line.
All told, Cavan will need a searing start but more importantly a steady 2nd quarter to get the win. Pace up front could be the key. Donegal on the other hand will be content to grind the gears early on and let their heavyweight forwards finish the job. A funny feeling it could be a blue day in Ballybofey.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1055 - 13/05/2018 11:42:54    2099949

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It looks like Donegal to win today.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 13/05/2018 12:48:18    2099966

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Cavan desperately need a big championship win. Logic and better standout player's points to a Donegal win but I think if Cavan find they're shooting boots they could cause a major upset at 11/4. They are due a big win for a number of year's.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 13/05/2018 12:59:07    2099969

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There won't be to many teams worried about meeting Cavan in the back door.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 13/05/2018 17:45:40    2100042

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Listened to the game on Highland Radio. That's an impressive score to put up, particularly with McBrearty quiet for the most part, but sounds as if there's a lot of work to do yet

petejoeduff (Donegal) - Posts: 329 - 13/05/2018 17:48:30    2100047

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Replying To mon07:  "There won't be to many teams worried about meeting Cavan in the back door."
Well 16 teams will avoid the back door this time round.

Monaghan won't be one of them.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 13/05/2018 18:19:04    2100074

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Well 16 teams will avoid the back door this time round.

Monaghan won't be one of them."
Where you at the game. I know I was.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 13/05/2018 19:09:39    2100113

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Well done our lads. I think that Cavan were not good enough at all to compete although they showed glimpses of form in the 70 minutes.

Bonner has us playing exactly what our u21s were doing last year. Good attacking football. There are 2 problems if I were to nitpick. The obvious one is the big hole we leave at the centre of defence sometimes. It will be found out again if we dont work on it. The 2nd one is the running of one or 2 of our lads into congested areas. Turnovers or frees the other way for over carrying are likely as a result of this.

Massive thumbs up to all the players for doing everything else right. No back chat to the ref. Good tackling. That is worth around 3 or 4 points in every game imo. Great scores. Great support play and a good kick out strategy when we got it working.

So I would be looking down the road with good optimism now for the rest of ulster.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 13/05/2018 19:32:06    2100130

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Well done our lads. I think that Cavan were not good enough at all to compete although they showed glimpses of form in the 70 minutes.

Bonner has us playing exactly what our u21s were doing last year. Good attacking football. There are 2 problems if I were to nitpick. The obvious one is the big hole we leave at the centre of defence sometimes. It will be found out again if we dont work on it. The 2nd one is the running of one or 2 of our lads into congested areas. Turnovers or frees the other way for over carrying are likely as a result of this.

Massive thumbs up to all the players for doing everything else right. No back chat to the ref. Good tackling. That is worth around 3 or 4 points in every game imo. Great scores. Great support play and a good kick out strategy when we got it working.

So I would be looking down the road with good optimism now for the rest of ulster."
Handy win for Donegal but Cavan weren't much opposition. I would say the Donegal defence will cost them big time.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 13/05/2018 19:51:55    2100145

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Cavan offered little opposition today so the worry is that we conceded so much. We still look very porous when teams run at us. The better teams will exploit this.
Going forward we have loads of options and look dangerous. Mulligan had a great impact from the bench today.
If we can get a longer kick pass transition from defence to our full forward line and tighten up around the centre of defence we can have a good year but honestly think we are a few defenders short of silverware.
As for Cavan, I would fear for them inn Division 1 next year.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 13/05/2018 20:03:56    2100152

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "Cavan offered little opposition today so the worry is that we conceded so much. We still look very porous when teams run at us. The better teams will exploit this.
Going forward we have loads of options and look dangerous. Mulligan had a great impact from the bench today.
If we can get a longer kick pass transition from defence to our full forward line and tighten up around the centre of defence we can have a good year but honestly think we are a few defenders short of silverware.
As for Cavan, I would fear for them inn Division 1 next year."
I dont see how we can do a longer kick pass from defence into attack. We worked the ball very effectively into the forwards today and I wouldn't be at all critical of our attack. You are right about our defence, but we have got work to do and have time to do it. Better now than at the end of June to correct this.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 13/05/2018 20:23:47    2100170

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As a Roscommon supporter, the performance of Cavan worries me as they are at about the same level as ourselves.
Donegal are a huge team - I wonder what the average height of the team is. Murphy had a great game and controlled the tempo of the game. They kicked some fantastic points today. It will be interesting to see how such high kicking would fare out on a windy day. It was a very easy game to control but I thought the standard of reffing was very poor. The future looks bright for Donegal but it will be difficult for Mattie to pick up this Cavan team after the manner of this defeat

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 13/05/2018 20:52:58    2100194

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Replying To neverright:  "As a Roscommon supporter, the performance of Cavan worries me as they are at about the same level as ourselves.
Donegal are a huge team - I wonder what the average height of the team is. Murphy had a great game and controlled the tempo of the game. They kicked some fantastic points today. It will be interesting to see how such high kicking would fare out on a windy day. It was a very easy game to control but I thought the standard of reffing was very poor. The future looks bright for Donegal but it will be difficult for Mattie to pick up this Cavan team after the manner of this defeat"
Believe me, Roscommon have much better players than Cavan, way better, and with the right game plan you can cause Galway big problems !

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 13/05/2018 21:25:53    2100208

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For some reason I Taught Cavan may have been hiding a big performance. Outclassed all over, unfortunately for Cavan they will never beat any decent team because they have no forwards simple as that.

Donegal have some classy young lads in Thomson,Langan and Brennan to compliment the marquee player's. They will give Tyrone/Monaghan loads of it.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 13/05/2018 22:31:56    2100244

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