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Replying To neverright:  "Are your figures accurate, Pericles? Wilkipedia (which I don't trust) has Pearse Stadium at maximum size - 145m by 90m - bigger than Croke Park."
I'm pretty sure both are bigger than McHale, as would also be hurling first places like Semple and Nowlan Park. Not sure about Hyde Park or Clones... always thought Croker was a big pitch, but not the biggest.

Joe, when I was writing about the possibility of Mayo getting a reaction I have to admit that Comer was the player I pictured in my head. Not advocating it, but he has become a talisman for Galway, the same way AOS and Michael Murphy are, and Sean Cavanagh and Diarmuid Connolly used to be before they left the intercounty scene. He's certainly a more fiery figure than our Aidan and this isn't a bad thing generally, but if someone pushes his buttons (and they will!) will he stay below the boil? Everyone knew they could wind Connolly up (even a linesman!) and his reaction was as natural and guaranteed as his brilliance. Is Comer another Connolly?

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 1742 - 01/05/2018 12:00:22    2095939

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Replying To LeftHalfBack10:  "Galway have been a great league team but they will be in for a rude awakening on May 13th."
Ya like the last two years when we played them and got beat! I'd be more worried about what mayo team turns up than how well Galway will play because I imagine Galway will be raring to go. I don't know what your smoking or possibly are you a wum?

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 603 - 01/05/2018 12:23:35    2095948

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Replying To Pericles:  "I'm pretty sure both are bigger than McHale, as would also be hurling first places like Semple and Nowlan Park. Not sure about Hyde Park or Clones... always thought Croker was a big pitch, but not the biggest.

Joe, when I was writing about the possibility of Mayo getting a reaction I have to admit that Comer was the player I pictured in my head. Not advocating it, but he has become a talisman for Galway, the same way AOS and Michael Murphy are, and Sean Cavanagh and Diarmuid Connolly used to be before they left the intercounty scene. He's certainly a more fiery figure than our Aidan and this isn't a bad thing generally, but if someone pushes his buttons (and they will!) will he stay below the boil? Everyone knew they could wind Connolly up (even a linesman!) and his reaction was as natural and guaranteed as his brilliance. Is Comer another Connolly?"
Hopefully, for our sake he'll deal with it with a cool head, but that's a lot easier said than done. There's also a balance in trying to avoid taking some of the 'bite' out of players like Comer, by having him play more passively.
His style of play means he's going to take plenty punishment either way.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 153 - 01/05/2018 14:34:58    2095998

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Hopefully, for our sake he'll deal with it with a cool head, but that's a lot easier said than done. There's also a balance in trying to avoid taking some of the 'bite' out of players like Comer, by having him play more passively.
His style of play means he's going to take plenty punishment either way."
We've the same with Boyler... a tamed Boyler is a contradiction in terms! Be interesting to see who gets the job of marking Comer, especially with Keegan unavailable for the special duty. Could we see AOS getting another defensive role?

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 1742 - 01/05/2018 16:08:31    2096030

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Replying To Pericles:  "We've the same with Boyler... a tamed Boyler is a contradiction in terms! Be interesting to see who gets the job of marking Comer, especially with Keegan unavailable for the special duty. Could we see AOS getting another defensive role?"
I was thinking ye might go with Barrett. He's gritty, physical, tough and a good tackler.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 153 - 01/05/2018 18:48:23    2096063

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Replying To Pericles:  "We've the same with Boyler... a tamed Boyler is a contradiction in terms! Be interesting to see who gets the job of marking Comer, especially with Keegan unavailable for the special duty. Could we see AOS getting another defensive role?"
To be fair Comer is hugely physical. He has often dragged lads out of rucks by the collar etc and never takes a step back but like AOS I have never seen him lash out or commit a sending off type of offence. Red in FBD game was a joke.

Boyle always liked to have his elbows in play, and often high. I don't think he gets wound up either, just gets his retaliation in first. He was a lucky boy in a couple of league games. Thought the tackle he put in the day Keegan got injured was a disgrace. Could have merited a long ban (so should the guy who hit Keegan). the following week he dd something similar but half missed the player and he got booked. Saying all that I think Boyle is cute enough and I don't think the red mist gets him. Everything is calculated, good player, plays on the edge.

COC is the man I would worry about from Mayo point of view. He always reacts. Got away with it for years but now he is getting pulled up on things regularly. Refs seem to have identified him and he could potentially get sent off for damn all now that he has a name for it.

On the Galway side Kyne is fiery and could potentially react. Conroy can be silly at times also. I think we are ok after that.

Kerin seems to love taking punishment. In the league I lost count of the number of players that were sent off or booked for lashing out at him. He must be pinching them all off the ball because he certainly seems to wind up opponents big time.

Obviously we don't need to mention Shoes......... we all know what could happen there!!

Should be a cracker.....hope it doesn't rain!!!

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 628 - 02/05/2018 10:51:41    2096199

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Strong rumours that Galway will be without both Brannigan and Kerin. And given that Liam Silke is away in the US it looks like Galway will be without both their first choice corner backs and their paciest forward and best ball carrier.

Brannigan can maybe be replaced but there is a big drop off in quality between Kerin and Silke and the next available corner backs.

Major advantage Mayo.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 1477 - 07/05/2018 03:04:34    2096993

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Replying To Marooned:  "Strong rumours that Galway will be without both Brannigan and Kerin. And given that Liam Silke is away in the US it looks like Galway will be without both their first choice corner backs and their paciest forward and best ball carrier.

Brannigan can maybe be replaced but there is a big drop off in quality between Kerin and Silke and the next available corner backs.

Major advantage Mayo."
Unless Galway abandon the defensive system Marooned, leaving space for the Mayo corner forwards, I don't think it's likely that any qualitative difference will be noticed. It's not just about getting numbers back as Kerry demonstrated last year in the replayed game, the defenders have to understand what their teammates around them will do at all times. Galway have been playing their system now for long enough to ensure that everyone should know their job, including the second and third choice players.

It'll be interesting to see what Mayo do in terms of setting up to go at Galway. It could be a case of mirroring the same sort of defensive approach (they did this against Tyrone in 2017). This might suit Mayo on this occasion as it could coax Galway out of sitting back very deep and allow runners to go at Bradshaw. They could also take the chance of pushing up and playing the game in Galway's half. The risk is preventing Galway breakouts given the sorts of forwards they have... Comer is a great out option and can't be left one-on-one. With his propensity for roaming I'm thinking that Donal Vaughan could be the best option to stay with Comer. They'd be a good match for each other physically too. Where and how to play AOS is again a conundrum for Mayo... he can and should have a huge influence, but whether this will be in a direct role as a FF, or a battering ram from deeper, or an indirect role as a decoy and play maker, it's hard to predict. He could even be used as a sweeper in a defensive set-up similar to Colm Cavanagh. Mayo's attack is likely to be manned by Andy again, with the only other guaranteed place being taken by Kevin Mc. Every other position could be occupied by a number of players, and with Cillian not 100%, Loftus could be in from the start. I think DOC's place at wing-forward could be under threat if Cian Hanley is up-to-speed. We know nothing about anyone's form, given that Mayo had so many league absentees, and the only news that ever comes out of the camp relates to injuries.

Looking forward to it though....

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 1742 - 07/05/2018 10:43:25    2097028

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Replying To Marooned:  "Strong rumours that Galway will be without both Brannigan and Kerin. And given that Liam Silke is away in the US it looks like Galway will be without both their first choice corner backs and their paciest forward and best ball carrier.

Brannigan can maybe be replaced but there is a big drop off in quality between Kerin and Silke and the next available corner backs.

Major advantage Mayo."
Getting your excuses in early? Seriously though this is a 50/50 game...anything could happen. I'd be surprised if both teams finish with 15 men

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9010 - 07/05/2018 11:44:02    2097043

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Replying To Pericles:  "Unless Galway abandon the defensive system Marooned, leaving space for the Mayo corner forwards, I don't think it's likely that any qualitative difference will be noticed. It's not just about getting numbers back as Kerry demonstrated last year in the replayed game, the defenders have to understand what their teammates around them will do at all times. Galway have been playing their system now for long enough to ensure that everyone should know their job, including the second and third choice players.

It'll be interesting to see what Mayo do in terms of setting up to go at Galway. It could be a case of mirroring the same sort of defensive approach (they did this against Tyrone in 2017). This might suit Mayo on this occasion as it could coax Galway out of sitting back very deep and allow runners to go at Bradshaw. They could also take the chance of pushing up and playing the game in Galway's half. The risk is preventing Galway breakouts given the sorts of forwards they have... Comer is a great out option and can't be left one-on-one. With his propensity for roaming I'm thinking that Donal Vaughan could be the best option to stay with Comer. They'd be a good match for each other physically too. Where and how to play AOS is again a conundrum for Mayo... he can and should have a huge influence, but whether this will be in a direct role as a FF, or a battering ram from deeper, or an indirect role as a decoy and play maker, it's hard to predict. He could even be used as a sweeper in a defensive set-up similar to Colm Cavanagh. Mayo's attack is likely to be manned by Andy again, with the only other guaranteed place being taken by Kevin Mc. Every other position could be occupied by a number of players, and with Cillian not 100%, Loftus could be in from the start. I think DOC's place at wing-forward could be under threat if Cian Hanley is up-to-speed. We know nothing about anyone's form, given that Mayo had so many league absentees, and the only news that ever comes out of the camp relates to injuries.

Looking forward to it though...."
No chance Hanley will be starting this game. He's only played 2 months of Gaelic football in the guts of 4 years.

Kevin Mc, Aidan and DO'C will be our half forward line. Full forward line will be Andy + 2 out of Cillian/Loftus/Doherty.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 69 - 07/05/2018 11:53:47    2097052

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Lads not meaning to jump ahead here but what side of the super 8s does the winners of Connacht go into? I know the winners of Leinster and Munster are in different groups but I'm not sure about the winners of Connacht and Ulster.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 7053 - 07/05/2018 12:02:43    2097058

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Getting your excuses in early? Seriously though this is a 50/50 game...anything could happen. I'd be surprised if both teams finish with 15 men"
They have their injuries though and Kyne the latest Galway player rumored to be out. With Mayo playing at home and determined not to lose 3 years in a row v Galway i rate this game as 60/40 in favour of Mayo

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 1831 - 07/05/2018 12:15:55    2097063

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6 days to go and a short week will be here before we know it best of luck to both teams , A Mayo win for me no way is this young Galway team going to beat this Mayo team 3 years in a row no chance.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 8987 - 07/05/2018 12:27:40    2097069

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Replying To ispeakwisdom:  "They have their injuries though and Kyne the latest Galway player rumored to be out. With Mayo playing at home and determined not to lose 3 years in a row v Galway i rate this game as 60/40 in favour of Mayo"
Don't underestimate the loss of Keegan. I am quietly confident we can win and maybe I'm basing that on. It loosing to Galway three years in a row. Mayo will be fired up.

A challenge game with monaghan last week and by all accounts is was firey stuff from both teams.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9010 - 07/05/2018 14:27:16    2097085

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Lads not meaning to jump ahead here but what side of the super 8s does the winners of Connacht go into? I know the winners of Leinster and Munster are in different groups but I'm not sure about the winners of Connacht and Ulster."
Winners of Connaught and Munster are in same group along with the winners of the 2 qualifier games involving the runners up of Leinster and ulster

Galwayjoe86 (Galway) - Posts: 144 - 07/05/2018 15:08:11    2097088

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Brannigan & Kerin were arguably our 2 best players in the league. Would be huge loss top us.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 628 - 07/05/2018 15:08:17    2097089

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No offence lads but basing a prediction on
Galway/Mayo being determined, wanting to lay a marker down or not wanting to lose 3 years in a row reminds me of rte style analysis.

They'll all be determined ffs! It's a Galway v Mayo match with both as realistic contenders!

Keegan out would be huge bonus for Galway if it happens. Mayo need their HB line at full throttle. Depends on replaces him but obviously won't be at his level.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 628 - 07/05/2018 15:16:52    2097092

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Replying To Galwayjoe86:  "Winners of Connaught and Munster are in same group along with the winners of the 2 qualifier games involving the runners up of Leinster and ulster"
Thanks Galwayjoe, that clears things up a bit.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 7053 - 07/05/2018 15:44:45    2097099

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Mayo to win this one..far more big game experience than galway.forget about the league with mayo they were'nt arsed..galway a decent enough side but after seeing them up close against dublin in the league final,they wouldnt be for me..they showed their hand way too early this year. everyone who plays them knows exactly what way there going to set up.they can only play 1 way at the moment.ultra defensive quick counter .mayo to win this by a minimum of 4points to spare..

GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 07/05/2018 17:22:07    2097118

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I actually fancy Galway for this to be honest, I really rate them. Be a low scoring game and I can't see 30 men finishing, decisions will be crucial. Would also go against the grain and say if Mayo are beaten I think they will be in the S8s.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1343 - 07/05/2018 19:28:49    2097137

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