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Tipperary Football Moving In The Right Direction

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Have to say, tipp football is really heading in the right direction. Close to promotion to division 1. Can anyone tell when is the last time they were in the top division? Could they give munster a good rattle this year?

.tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 360 - 12/03/2018 11:03:24    2083858

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Replying To .tribute:  "Have to say, tipp football is really heading in the right direction. Close to promotion to division 1. Can anyone tell when is the last time they were in the top division? Could they give munster a good rattle this year?"
It's unbelievable to think that when Declan Browne was playing we couldn't win a game in div 4. Progress is truly unreal. I firmly believe that this progress is 100% down to the development squads which have been a massive success for 12/15 years now. Which is why it's baffling that Colm orourke doesn't agree with these squads.
A Munster championship has to be the aim but I think that's a step to far to be honest. I've no idea or if they were ever in the top tier...I doubt we have been to be honest.
As regards getting promoted...firstly I think staying up would've been the big aim and secondly I think the Roscommon game was the one that will probably end up costing us promotion. The past few years they've been cost a number of players for different reasons and I said at the start of the year that this is the strongest panel they've ever had. Even without probably 2 of their top 3 players in oriordan and Acheson not being in the country

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/03/2018 11:21:59    2083868

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Yeah Tipp should really go all out for Munster this year. They're better than Cork, and Kerry look very beatable.

Tipp lads, maybe rest your main lads in the last league game up in Breffni. Save them for the championship ;)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 12/03/2018 11:38:35    2083878

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Definitely going in the right direction. I don't think they will go up being away to Down and Cavan in last 2 games (Cavan & Roscommon are both at home for the last 2 games). The Roscommon game cost them promotion probably. I think they are better off not getting promoted through, it could be a step too far too quickly.

They are a cracking team with plenty of scores in them. Will always concede a big score too, but I think they should give Munster a right good rattle. Even if they don't win Munster they have been good in the qualifiers in the last few years, so should really be aiming for Super 8

Cupotay (Donegal) - Posts: 31 - 12/03/2018 11:56:54    2083882

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Tipperary are reaping the rewards of the great work they put into developing underage structures over the past decade and good on them.

Motte (Cork) - Posts: 48 - 12/03/2018 17:04:22    2084021

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Great stuff out of Tipperary and are rightfully reaping the rewards for all their hard work underage.

They could be a match for anyone on their day and both cork and Kerry better be wary of them this year.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/03/2018 17:33:48    2084034

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Replying To Cupotay:  "Definitely going in the right direction. I don't think they will go up being away to Down and Cavan in last 2 games (Cavan & Roscommon are both at home for the last 2 games). The Roscommon game cost them promotion probably. I think they are better off not getting promoted through, it could be a step too far too quickly.

They are a cracking team with plenty of scores in them. Will always concede a big score too, but I think they should give Munster a right good rattle. Even if they don't win Munster they have been good in the qualifiers in the last few years, so should really be aiming for Super 8"
Yeah exactly. I'd rather stepped progress than yo yo up and down. After getting promoted from Division 4 we spent two years in Division 3. Fermanagh and Armagh went up in our place and Armagh came straight back down. Fermanagh stayed two years but both are back in Division 3 now.

Kildare shot up to Division 1 and look like they are coming straight back down. Westmeath seem to be on this cycle of going from Division 4 - 1 and back again and now look like they could be in Division 2 again next year.

Steady as she goes will suit us just fine.

As for championship. Kerry may have been outclassed by Dublin yesterday but Kerry are well ahead of us.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/03/2018 17:56:13    2084042

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Tipperary are strong favourites to get promoted to Div 1 this year. A year in Div 1 will bring the team on again. They are the best team in Div 2 this year imho

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 12/03/2018 20:02:44    2084076

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Replying To reffingmad:  "Tipperary are strong favourites to get promoted to Div 1 this year. A year in Div 1 will bring the team on again. They are the best team in Div 2 this year imho"
If we are so good how come we lost to Roscommon in Thurles and are 3rd in the table with all our home games played.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/03/2018 20:22:16    2084081

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We still have alot of work to do if we are to get promotion, 2 away games up north are never easy.

There is alot of work being done underage but its more a case of some exceptional groups of players who came through rather than getting a couple of players each year from under age teams. From our 2011 minor team we have 6 starters, another 4 from the 2015 under 21 team. There shouldnt be any surprise at our rise to this point at least, we played dublin each of these years and on the 2011 minor team dublin had lowndes, small, mccaffery, O'Conghaile, costello, mannion and scully. Their under 21 team included david byrne, lowndes, carthy, scully, basquel, costello and mchugh. You definitely couldnt say that they were poor dublin teams. The pedigree was always there for everyone to see, from them teams youre probably seeing another 3/4 who arent playing football for one reason or another who would be starting or very close to and the same number again who are on the panel and are coming into games as subs. Yes we got our house in order but since we got to the 2015 all ireland minor final tipp county board have banned the use of dual players at this level and we have really struggled. Im not taking our rise for granted nor am i getting carried away either, great strides have been made, many more are needed.

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 12/03/2018 20:28:34    2084085

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Replying To tipp11:  "We still have alot of work to do if we are to get promotion, 2 away games up north are never easy.

There is alot of work being done underage but its more a case of some exceptional groups of players who came through rather than getting a couple of players each year from under age teams. From our 2011 minor team we have 6 starters, another 4 from the 2015 under 21 team. There shouldnt be any surprise at our rise to this point at least, we played dublin each of these years and on the 2011 minor team dublin had lowndes, small, mccaffery, O'Conghaile, costello, mannion and scully. Their under 21 team included david byrne, lowndes, carthy, scully, basquel, costello and mchugh. You definitely couldnt say that they were poor dublin teams. The pedigree was always there for everyone to see, from them teams youre probably seeing another 3/4 who arent playing football for one reason or another who would be starting or very close to and the same number again who are on the panel and are coming into games as subs. Yes we got our house in order but since we got to the 2015 all ireland minor final tipp county board have banned the use of dual players at this level and we have really struggled. Im not taking our rise for granted nor am i getting carried away either, great strides have been made, many more are needed."
i left ciaran kilkenny out of the dublin minor team

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 12/03/2018 20:41:47    2084089

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Is Stephen Quirke with the footballers this years? He was a great minor a couple of years ago, doesn't appear to be involved with the hurlers either. Danny Owens too, is he with the footballers, was a county minor for 3 years and looked like a great player.

Thunderstruck (Meath) - Posts: 467 - 12/03/2018 20:52:07    2084092

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Is Stephen Quirke with the footballers this years? He was a great minor a couple of years ago, doesn't appear to be involved with the hurlers either. Danny Owens too, is he with the footballers, was a county minor for 3 years and looked like a great player.
Thunderstruck (Meath) - Posts: 435 - 12/03/2018 20:52:07 Danny Owens dont think he is with seniors. Had played a few years with 21s but dont think anything with seniors yet.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 12/03/2018 21:15:47    2084099

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Replying To Thunderstruck:  "Is Stephen Quirke with the footballers this years? He was a great minor a couple of years ago, doesn't appear to be involved with the hurlers either. Danny Owens too, is he with the footballers, was a county minor for 3 years and looked like a great player."
neither are, i thought stephen would be, i assume its his call that hes not, he was with the hurlers last year and is in collage so might be planning on travelling this summer. Hes good and worth a look at but i coldnt see him breaking into the starting 15, he lacks the pace needed for this level but he could still be very useful and i might be proved wrong. he is a very good club player though

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 12/03/2018 21:19:41    2084102

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Replying To Thunderstruck:  "Is Stephen Quirke with the footballers this years? He was a great minor a couple of years ago, doesn't appear to be involved with the hurlers either. Danny Owens too, is he with the footballers, was a county minor for 3 years and looked like a great player."
Not sure about Quirke he could be injured again, he has had knee problems in the past. I think Kearns has him on last year. He is a great prospect.

Don't know what the story is with Owens. You are right he was a very good minor. Hopefully the two of them will come through yet.

Tipp11 is on the ball, the last county chairman has not helped Football in the county.

Barry O'Brien who was the visionary county chairman that started this revival has taken over as chair of the 'Friends of Tipp Football', hopefully he can help see out some of his 2020 well plan from 2005.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/03/2018 21:50:41    2084111

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