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Yea Waterford had a strong team out. They were all over the place on Sunday. Looked like a team which had trained that morning! One point from play for the entire first half from your wing back is extremely poor. But they are still capable of getting a result down in Cork this weekend especially if Lehane and Cadogan are missing again. McGrath might listen to John Mullane and abandon the sweeper for this one. One positive for the Deise to take away from the Kilkenny game was the performance of Tom Devine. PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 20/02/2018 11:24:38 2078677 Link 0 |
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I can't see him ever abandoning it. If he hasn't done it by now then I can't see it happening unfortunately. Their scoring has been extremely poor especially the last two games against Tipp and KK. Having said that I've a feeling Waterford are trying to plan their run this year and I'd guess they won't be worried just yet, 1A is a different division this year than the last few as most predicted. Nearly all the teams are experimenting and aren't overly concerned by the threat of relegation. Tipp for example have used 29 players in 3 games and I'd imagine most other counties are similar. You'll probably see Clare experiment further too now they've 3/3. This year I wouldn't read into the League at all. It'll be an interesting year with the way the cship is set up tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/02/2018 12:23:28 2078701 Link 1 |
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Good points made there. Scoring has always been a problem for Waterford under this management although I thought they had improved in that department last year. We talk about all the teams experimenting in the league with the new championship in mind but why doesn't McGrath try to freshen things up and go all out attack for the remainder of the league. He seems hell bent on sticking to his defensive principles. His decision to use no substitutes in the Wexford game was bizarre. Clare and Tipperary are getting good use out of the league blooding new players but I haven't a clue what Waterford are trying to get out of it. PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 20/02/2018 14:25:12 2078738 Link 0 |
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I think his theory was for the first two games he wanted to get 70 mins into players where possible. While I don't agree with Waterford's system...I think if he is planning on sticking to it then he needs to stick to his guns for the rest of the league. There's no point going all out for a few games and then going back to the sweeper. Kilkenny are getting a fair bit from the league themselves. They've unearthed a number of players by the looks of it and I fancy them to beat Tipp next weekend also. I feel Cody will be reasonably happy so far. BUT there's a lot of shadow boxing so far and I'm not even sure the Munster and Leinster cships in their new formats will tell us a huge amount. It's going to take managers and teams a couple of years to figure out their best way of approaching each year. 4 games could win an All Ireland some years. Now if I'm correct, it could take 8+ and it's finished in August. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/02/2018 17:13:15 2078790 Link 0 |
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Hmm. I think McGrath should throw caution at the wind for the remaining league games. It's not working for them at the moment and they need a change badly. And now it looks like Gleeson has picked up an injury and is out for this weekend. Agree with the rest of your comments.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 21/02/2018 16:15:39 2079016 Link 0 |
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I agree fully that he should (never have and never will agree with the sweeper - esp the way Waterford utilise it) but all I'm saying is that he won't do it and if he's going back to the sweeper for the cship there's no pint changing anyway.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/02/2018 17:11:34 2079033 Link 1 |
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I have changed my mind on Tipp beating Kilkenny. The clash with the Fitzgibbon Cup will have a greater impact on Tipp with Jason Forde and John McGrath out. PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 23/02/2018 14:05:19 2079475 Link 0 |
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why was Flanagan taken off in the first half? blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 26/02/2018 02:56:35 2080311 Link 0 |
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Good win for Mayo yesterday, over 15000 in Castlebar watching our so called big guns in football doing a training session, I think we were sold a pup, we should have been in Ballina yesterday at the hurling instead of freezing our asses off at the football in Castlebar on Saturday night riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 26/02/2018 11:07:37 2080395 Link 1 |
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Waterford answered their critics with a fine win against Cork. Any reports on the game? Did McGrath set up differently? Good win for Offaly also and great to be in the quarter finals with round to go. PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 26/02/2018 13:32:41 2080471 Link 2 |
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Really? Well maybe they're off form or just saving it. Hard to say. I still say they'll be dangerous come Championship time.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 26/02/2018 16:01:33 2080591 Link 1 |
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My picks: Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 26/02/2018 16:05:50 2080598 Link 0 |
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Did they though? Didn't see it but they played against 14 for the majority and played with pretty much two sweepers after the sending off.. Important win tho however tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/02/2018 16:12:59 2080607 Link 0 |
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Here we go again. They should not have won last years semi because Cork had a man sent off. They should not have won Sunday because Cork had a man sent off. Incidentally if a Waterford player did what he did the bloggers would be on here screaming what a dirty bunch they are. Not a dicky bird anywhere about this nasty attack.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 26/02/2018 23:32:20 2080803 Link 0 |
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Hold on a second. The question was did they answer their critics and surely as a Waterford supporter you have to admit they aren't at full tilt yet? If you read my earlier comments on Waterford you'd take that reply in a different context. This is the national league. What are you getting so tetch about. I never said they wouldn't have won regardless. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/02/2018 15:09:25 2080955 Link 0 |
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In fairness i have not got respect for barry coughlan, if you remember he did the exact same to david dunne in walsh park after dunne scored his second goal, coughlan only got a yellow and should of got send off. Yes coughlan is dirty as with his carry on in septembers all ireland and his stupid yellow card tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 27/02/2018 15:36:23 2080968 Link 0 |
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Are Waterford paranoid about Cork, or what? Waterford are not the only county which have to put up with what looks like begrudgery. Things happen in matches, and whether they effect the outcome, or not, we have to put up with them. Just be happy with the win, like we were last year after winning in Walsh Park after Maurice was sent off! Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 27/02/2018 16:10:36 2080980 Link 0 |
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They did somewhat after three very poor losses the pressure was on them to get a win. Cyril Farrell said before 'until you win an All-Ireland, then you've answered your critics'.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 27/02/2018 17:30:57 2081013 Link 0 |
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You are totally wrong about last year All-Ireland. I was right on that end line. Before the ball was thrown in Glynn hit Coughlan. Coughlan walked away. He followed him again and hit him and them walked over and did the same to Connors with the useless umpires watching it all.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 27/02/2018 17:56:26 2081025 Link 0 |
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Unbelievable you are o.k. with Barry having knees drove into him on the ground and instead focus on him getting yellow cards. He will have yellow cards in every game as it is a tactic from the opposition to niggle him so he retaliates and try get him off his game. One of the most underrated fullbacks.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 27/02/2018 18:14:02 2081034 Link 0 |