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I see the new Offaly boss has said the way to win is the 'kerry way'. I want to throw it out here on hoganstand and ask what exactly is the Kerry way?
I have witness down through the years on this forum the difference in opinions of the different way that counties have played. Kerry have to some been lauded as the a thesis of the 'defensive football'/'puke football' that's as been played for the majority of the last two decades. Kerry don't do defensive football or part take in gamesmanship and the like. I have my views on what the Kerry way is but I imagine the vast majority would have view that's always open atrractive football that Kerry play and that Kerry don't pull and drag etc.
What is the truth??
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 03/01/2018 14:22:19
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Replying To Spoddgy: "I see the new Offaly boss has said the way to win is the 'kerry way'. I want to throw it out here on hoganstand and ask what exactly is the Kerry way?
I have witness down through the years on this forum the difference in opinions of the different way that counties have played. Kerry have to some been lauded as the a thesis of the 'defensive football'/'puke football' that's as been played for the majority of the last two decades. Kerry don't do defensive football or part take in gamesmanship and the like. I have my views on what the Kerry way is but I imagine the vast majority would have view that's always open atrractive football that Kerry play and that Kerry don't pull and drag etc.
What is the truth??" Tis the right way and that's pure true
Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 03/01/2018 15:10:01
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Replying To Spoddgy: "I see the new Offaly boss has said the way to win is the 'kerry way'. I want to throw it out here on hoganstand and ask what exactly is the Kerry way?
I have witness down through the years on this forum the difference in opinions of the different way that counties have played. Kerry have to some been lauded as the a thesis of the 'defensive football'/'puke football' that's as been played for the majority of the last two decades. Kerry don't do defensive football or part take in gamesmanship and the like. I have my views on what the Kerry way is but I imagine the vast majority would have view that's always open atrractive football that Kerry play and that Kerry don't pull and drag etc.
What is the truth??" So lets have your views then
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 03/01/2018 15:59:09
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Had a little giggle reading this ridiculous statement, Play the Kerry way....... Has he watched Kerry the last decade????
in the top three most defensive sides in the country and the most cynicle.
Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 03/01/2018 16:07:41
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Replying To Spoddgy: "I see the new Offaly boss has said the way to win is the 'kerry way'. I want to throw it out here on hoganstand and ask what exactly is the Kerry way?
I have witness down through the years on this forum the difference in opinions of the different way that counties have played. Kerry have to some been lauded as the a thesis of the 'defensive football'/'puke football' that's as been played for the majority of the last two decades. Kerry don't do defensive football or part take in gamesmanship and the like. I have my views on what the Kerry way is but I imagine the vast majority would have view that's always open atrractive football that Kerry play and that Kerry don't pull and drag etc.
What is the truth??" I think its like the Max Power way.
Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 03/01/2018 16:08:22
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I think they try to win all the time and they have been pretty good at it over the years!
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/01/2018 16:33:28
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Straight away I would consider the Kerry way as been the more positive style of play, like Dublin and Mayo.
Great shout from the Offaly boss! Should make for an interesting evening.
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 03/01/2018 16:49:25
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37 Senior All Ireland titles
15 Minor All Ireland titles
10 U-21 All Ireland titles
18 Junior All Ireland titles
20 Division 1 National League titles
That's the Kerry way :D, happy 2018.
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 03/01/2018 17:08:37
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Kerry are the Tyrone of Munster.
Defensive Football.
Kerry's football is not appealing to the eye like Tyrones, they will not win another all-Ireland with their style of football and with Fitzmaurice as Manager. Even if they have Geany and Clifford (two great players).
Puke Football!!!
oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 03/01/2018 17:13:01
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Divisive and unproductive thread for me.
Every county goes through their peaks and troughs in terms of style of play to maximize winning depending on the talent available at any one era.
At their very best i associate some lovely long kick passing and scoring, vision and ability to make space and time through skill with Kerry.
Like every other county and my own included you wont get very far without being street smart and having an edge that enables winning.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/01/2018 17:26:21
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Replying To oakleafersir: "Kerry are the Tyrone of Munster.
Defensive Football.
Kerry's football is not appealing to the eye like Tyrones, they will not win another all-Ireland with their style of football and with Fitzmaurice as Manager. Even if they have Geany and Clifford (two great players).
Puke Football!!!" Have to laugh at this post.
So Derry play open expansive football?
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 03/01/2018 18:36:39
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Replying To TheUsername: "Divisive and unproductive thread for me.
Every county goes through their peaks and troughs in terms of style of play to maximize winning depending on the talent available at any one era.
At their very best i associate some lovely long kick passing and scoring, vision and ability to make space and time through skill with Kerry.
Like every other county and my own included you wont get very far without being street smart and having an edge that enables winning." Pretty much sums it up for me as well.
This tread will be ruined in about 15 posts by the usual culprits.
Kerry are as cynical as the rest. That's not a dig, it's just the way sport in general has become. Win at all costs.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 03/01/2018 18:39:33
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Replying To superbluedub: "So lets have your views then" I've stated what Kerry have being doing to win so many all Ireland's a few times here some haven't welcomed that view and instead choose to canonise Kerry and forget that Kerry teams have done what it takes to win and I mean do anything to win not just lovely football. In reality I would say that every county team to win an all Ireland have been ready to do anything to win as well play football well. I would say Kerry's success has been to be continually well trained and prepared as well as producing good footballers. Plenty of good footballers and teams never won all Ireland's.
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 03/01/2018 19:05:46
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Replying To TheUsername: "Divisive and unproductive thread for me.
Every county goes through their peaks and troughs in terms of style of play to maximize winning depending on the talent available at any one era.
At their very best i associate some lovely long kick passing and scoring, vision and ability to make space and time through skill with Kerry.
Like every other county and my own included you wont get very far without being street smart and having an edge that enables winning." Would you say this eras Dublin team are playing the 'Kerry way'? I would say yes if you can label it as the Kerry way.
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 03/01/2018 19:07:26
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Replying To Spoddgy: "Would you say this eras Dublin team are playing the 'Kerry way'? I would say yes if you can label it as the Kerry way." They play an attacking style where they look to be the dominant team in every game they play. I'd say that's the Kerry way.
Every top team is cynical.
Every top team has a defensive plan also, it'd just be naive not to.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4206 - 03/01/2018 19:14:08
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Thought myself Dublin and Mayo conducted themselves brillantly after all the media shenanagins hyped up by our very own selves..
Not once did i hear a Mayo player not congratulate dublin on being worthy All Ireland winners , nor
did i hear any dublin player complain about Keegans cheeky attempt to disrupt Rock.
Both acted very professionaly off it ,and it clearly shows on the pitch too.
The rest of the country need to move on from this like these two counties, and concentrate on how they can close the gap instead..
Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 03/01/2018 19:21:09
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Replying To Spoddgy: "I've stated what Kerry have being doing to win so many all Ireland's a few times here some haven't welcomed that view and instead choose to canonise Kerry and forget that Kerry teams have done what it takes to win and I mean do anything to win not just lovely football. In reality I would say that every county team to win an all Ireland have been ready to do anything to win as well play football well. I would say Kerry's success has been to be continually well trained and prepared as well as producing good footballers. Plenty of good footballers and teams never won all Ireland's." Not particularly, although comparisons can be drawn between quality of players etc.
Maybe I'm over generising it but I think Kerry play more of a quality kick passing game historically and rely on quality of their end product.
Dublin in this era play differently with tiers of; skill in moving the ball up the pitch at speed, speed of thought, short quick passing game, primary and secondary movement, pace, athleticism, psychological strength, ruthlessness, relentlessness and blessed with this eras highest quality players.
I'm sure others will add to both above.
Mayo are interesting one, what is the Mayo way, or is there one?
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/01/2018 20:24:07
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The Kerry way traditionally has been attractive kick passing football with good forwards inside like Mikey Sheehy, Maurice Fitzgerald, Gooch etc. kicking nice scores. I'm not saying that every game has always been pretty, but Kerry mostly tried to play good football.
There is no doubt that Kerry have changed their style, this has been particularly evident since 2014. The reason is down mainly to the limitations of our players. This is the weakest Kerry playing panel since the dark days of the early 90's, and the fact that we have remained relatively competitive in recent years would seem to justify the approach. Kerry even won an All Ireland in 2014 when they really had no right to by playing safety first football in a final where nobody gave them a chance.
Our recent underage teams have played some lovely stuff so I hope we will see a more attractive style when some of these lads get in to the team down the road and we hopefully build a new (and better) panel.
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 03/01/2018 21:17:13
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Kerry way got Offaly a good draw tonight, fair play
ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 03/01/2018 22:07:17
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Replying To Spoddgy: "I see the new Offaly boss has said the way to win is the 'kerry way'. I want to throw it out here on hoganstand and ask what exactly is the Kerry way?
I have witness down through the years on this forum the difference in opinions of the different way that counties have played. Kerry have to some been lauded as the a thesis of the 'defensive football'/'puke football' that's as been played for the majority of the last two decades. Kerry don't do defensive football or part take in gamesmanship and the like. I have my views on what the Kerry way is but I imagine the vast majority would have view that's always open atrractive football that Kerry play and that Kerry don't pull and drag etc.
What is the truth??" The Kerry way for most of the last decade has involved being utterly dominated by Dublin even whilst plumbing the depths of defensive and cynical football in attempts to stay relevant.
I guess then we can expect absolutely nothing from Offaly for the season going ahead?
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 03/01/2018 22:11:03
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