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Club of the Year award

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Replying To ziggy320001:  "True a decision should not be made until the season is over..
Having said that Wolfe Tones won't really care,because getting trophies is more important than getting club of the year. Fair play to them and Ratoath,both as clubs had super years."
Agreed,

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 22/12/2017 18:44:11    2065895

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Replying To royalpainter:  "Delighted Wolfe Tones won this award with HS winners @U17,Minor U21 & senior league champions all round "super club work" pity CB made its decision before competitions were completed ."
I still would have given it to Ratoath.
Simonstown competed in division 1 in the minor. Is it more of an achievement to win Division 2 or compete in Division 1?
Winning division 2 basically means youre the 9th best team in Meath at this level.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 23/12/2017 12:59:50    2065922

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Replying To Maestro:  "I still would have given it to Ratoath.
Simonstown competed in division 1 in the minor. Is it more of an achievement to win Division 2 or compete in Division 1?
Winning division 2 basically means youre the 9th best team in Meath at this level."
So by that logic Ratoath are the 15th brst team in Meath based on league this season. Tones won an U21 A last year and having lost 2 senior footballers this year they won the U21 championship. Tones minors this year would be in top 4 in county , far ahead of Simonstown i might add

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 23/12/2017 14:21:54    2065925

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Replying To Analyst:  "So by that logic Ratoath are the 15th brst team in Meath based on league this season. Tones won an U21 A last year and having lost 2 senior footballers this year they won the U21 championship. Tones minors this year would be in top 4 in county , far ahead of Simonstown i might add"
Have you ever had a good word to say about simonstown? Sad really, must have been a tough 2 years for you with a grudge like that

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 23/12/2017 18:43:43    2065936

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I really don't get this thing of awarding awards to players particularly underage players! The minor and under 17 player awards seem so pointless! All the lads on both squads put in enormous effort and while the 17s did greet the minor team had two disappointing results! It doesn't mean the lads on the 18 squad worked any less or were less committed! Awarding the minor award to an under 17 player is a bit of a slap in the face to the 18s who have been with that squad for 5/6 years! Shane Walsh is a fine footballer but was he more deserving than Andrew Beakey, Robbie Clarke, dan Devine or a number of other lads who have been committed to that squad for years! In my opinion the awards are unnecessary and actually dosincentivise young men!!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 473 - 23/12/2017 20:16:11    2065943

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Replying To Analyst:  "So by that logic Ratoath are the 15th brst team in Meath based on league this season. Tones won an U21 A last year and having lost 2 senior footballers this year they won the U21 championship. Tones minors this year would be in top 4 in county , far ahead of Simonstown i might add"
think Simonstown would have won Div 2 in minor as still big enough difference between 1 and 2

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 23/12/2017 22:35:38    2065952

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "I really don't get this thing of awarding awards to players particularly underage players! The minor and under 17 player awards seem so pointless! All the lads on both squads put in enormous effort and while the 17s did greet the minor team had two disappointing results! It doesn't mean the lads on the 18 squad worked any less or were less committed! Awarding the minor award to an under 17 player is a bit of a slap in the face to the 18s who have been with that squad for 5/6 years! Shane Walsh is a fine footballer but was he more deserving than Andrew Beakey, Robbie Clarke, dan Devine or a number of other lads who have been committed to that squad for years! In my opinion the awards are unnecessary and actually dosincentivise young men!!"
let's hope we hold onto all these players for senior level. and I hope with the new under 19 it will improve retaining players

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 23/12/2017 22:38:40    2065953

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Replying To Analyst:  "So by that logic Ratoath are the 15th brst team in Meath based on league this season. Tones won an U21 A last year and having lost 2 senior footballers this year they won the U21 championship. Tones minors this year would be in top 4 in county , far ahead of Simonstown i might add"
If the Tones minors were the 4th best team how come they weren't in division 1, either they aren't the 4th best or they were in the wrong division. Anyway the 4th best minor team isn't saying much as 3 teams were miles ahead of the rest

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 24/12/2017 00:35:04    2065956

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "I really don't get this thing of awarding awards to players particularly underage players! The minor and under 17 player awards seem so pointless! All the lads on both squads put in enormous effort and while the 17s did greet the minor team had two disappointing results! It doesn't mean the lads on the 18 squad worked any less or were less committed! Awarding the minor award to an under 17 player is a bit of a slap in the face to the 18s who have been with that squad for 5/6 years! Shane Walsh is a fine footballer but was he more deserving than Andrew Beakey, Robbie Clarke, dan Devine or a number of other lads who have been committed to that squad for years! In my opinion the awards are unnecessary and actually dosincentivise young men!!"
Wouldn't really agree with player of the year in any grade, especially not underage. Football aswell as hurling is a team game and whatever about individual awards at adult level I wouldn't be a fan of it at underage ( even though you will notice a player standing out at underage more so than adult) I think your on the ball royal, lot of talented lads let's hope they can all progress,

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 24/12/2017 04:38:57    2065958

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Have you ever had a good word to say about simonstown? Sad really, must have been a tough 2 years for you with a grudge like that"
Yes i have actually. Fully deserved to win championship in 2016 with a fantastic performance in final and played good football. Were fortunate this year and never reached the same standard as last but still deserved their win. That said the thread here is club of the year and Simonstown would not be in the top 4 in this category

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 24/12/2017 08:58:33    2065960

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Replying To Analyst:  "So by that logic Ratoath are the 15th brst team in Meath based on league this season. Tones won an U21 A last year and having lost 2 senior footballers this year they won the U21 championship. Tones minors this year would be in top 4 in county , far ahead of Simonstown i might add"
No, we don't measure performance on the league as teams are missing their best players. That is another reason why Tonnes did so well in the league as they don't have too many players at that standard.
Then why were they competing in division 2?
it is more of an achievement to compete in division 1 then win a division 2 in my opinion.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 24/12/2017 09:37:33    2065961

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Replying To Analyst:  "Yes i have actually. Fully deserved to win championship in 2016 with a fantastic performance in final and played good football. Were fortunate this year and never reached the same standard as last but still deserved their win. That said the thread here is club of the year and Simonstown would not be in the top 4 in this category"
They were lucky to win it this year?
They won every game in the championship.
The only team to really put it up to them was Dunboyne. Dont think there was much involved.
They then bet Tonnes and Summerhill in third gear.

Can you tell me how they were lucky?

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 24/12/2017 13:59:13    2065976

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Replying To Maestro:  "They were lucky to win it this year?
They won every game in the championship.
The only team to really put it up to them was Dunboyne. Dont think there was much involved.
They then bet Tonnes and Summerhill in third gear.

Can you tell me how they were lucky?"
Yeah, Dunboyne had a collapse of devon lough proportions and even with that overall Dunboyne were better side. Tones outplayed Simonstown for 45 mins and take 5 mins of madness just before half-time out of it they probably would have won. I did say they deserved it but they had a lot of luck and as i said were poor overall in comparison to 2016

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 24/12/2017 14:48:06    2065978

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Replying To Analyst:  "Yeah, Dunboyne had a collapse of devon lough proportions and even with that overall Dunboyne were better side. Tones outplayed Simonstown for 45 mins and take 5 mins of madness just before half-time out of it they probably would have won. I did say they deserved it but they had a lot of luck and as i said were poor overall in comparison to 2016"
Wow your digging a hole here, anyone at the tones game could see simonstown only played in fits and starts and blew the tones away when they upped the intensity. They never looked like losing tones had a half chance in the last minute but simonstown should have it long wrapped up by then Anyway. Dunboyne didn't collspse like you say and even went back 2 points ahead after simonstown had got back level. Serious character to win that game. Your the man that suggested because simonstown won the championship last year it highlighted the weakness of meath football (simonstown then went closer than any meath team to win leinster in years) and also have dunboyne, tones and ratoath as your 3 top teams on another thread here. Find it hard to believe you don't have a disliking towards that club.

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 24/12/2017 17:36:52    2065982

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Replying To Analyst:  "Yeah, Dunboyne had a collapse of devon lough proportions and even with that overall Dunboyne were better side. Tones outplayed Simonstown for 45 mins and take 5 mins of madness just before half-time out of it they probably would have won. I did say they deserved it but they had a lot of luck and as i said were poor overall in comparison to 2016"
None of what you said there had anything to do with luck. There was no lucky goals or unlucky teams, no bad decisions. So I wouldn't call them lucky
Simonstown didn't play in the first half against Dunboyne and then in the second half Dunboyne couldn't live with them.
Against Tones Simonstown had the game won and eased off and let Tones into it. Think they still won by 6 in the end?
There was no luck involved in either game, the better team won.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 569 - 24/12/2017 17:55:41    2065983

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Wow your digging a hole here, anyone at the tones game could see simonstown only played in fits and starts and blew the tones away when they upped the intensity. They never looked like losing tones had a half chance in the last minute but simonstown should have it long wrapped up by then Anyway. Dunboyne didn't collspse like you say and even went back 2 points ahead after simonstown had got back level. Serious character to win that game. Your the man that suggested because simonstown won the championship last year it highlighted the weakness of meath football (simonstown then went closer than any meath team to win leinster in years) and also have dunboyne, tones and ratoath as your 3 top teams on another thread here. Find it hard to believe you don't have a disliking towards that club."
Ok they are the best team since Walterstown in the 80's, Meath football is very very strong at the minute with superb quality in our Club championships, loads of high intensity games in the group stages. The county champions have an array of talent with their best player being so hampered by injury that he can hardly train but still manages to stand out. Tones and Dunboyne were blown away by superior team who will likely dominate for years to come. That should help you sleep and make you feel better when you wre in the 41 over xmas

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 24/12/2017 21:11:57    2065989

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Amazing really that this thread is so active . I've a feeling analyst Is from up the brews hill direction.
Club of the year is a nice bonus to whatever club receives it. Realistically though if your club have won it you've probably had bigger fish to fry this year than these awards.
The backlash from simonstown winning it this year is amazing.
At the start of the year there was one thing the clubs in Meath wanted to win , Club of the year isn't it.
Meath hill , curraha and simonstown will look back and be pretty content with their lot this year even if provincial success evaded them.
When everyone starts back at it in January I don't think the chairmen in every club will be praying for club of the year glory come October.

Meathmaverick (Meath) - Posts: 106 - 25/12/2017 01:55:41    2065996

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Replying To Meathmaverick:  "Amazing really that this thread is so active . I've a feeling analyst Is from up the brews hill direction.
Club of the year is a nice bonus to whatever club receives it. Realistically though if your club have won it you've probably had bigger fish to fry this year than these awards.
The backlash from simonstown winning it this year is amazing.
At the start of the year there was one thing the clubs in Meath wanted to win , Club of the year isn't it.
Meath hill , curraha and simonstown will look back and be pretty content with their lot this year even if provincial success evaded them.
When everyone starts back at it in January I don't think the chairmen in every club will be praying for club of the year glory come October."
A club is about more than its first team

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 25/12/2017 11:55:14    2065999

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While of course Simonstown are very clearly the best team in the county at the moment, they are absolutely miles from being the greatest since Walterstown.

Simonstown would literally not live with the Dunshaughlin outfit of 1999-2002.

4 county finals in a row, winning 3, plus 1 Leinster, 2 leagues and 2 Feis Cups.

Simonstown have a long way to go.

Ibbecek (Meath) - Posts: 196 - 25/12/2017 16:10:22    2066000

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Replying To Maestro:  "They were lucky to win it this year?
They won every game in the championship.
The only team to really put it up to them was Dunboyne. Dont think there was much involved.
They then bet Tonnes and Summerhill in third gear.

Can you tell me how they were lucky?"
Seen most senior championship matches. To say they beat Tones in 3rd gear is untrue- they won because Tones scored a couple of own goals. Simonstown were the best team in this years championship and on top of that they won all their championship games. Obviously they will be favourites next year irrespective of the bookies!. Now team of the year was Tones or maybe Ratoath - Tones by a short margin for me. I would say that the club who wins the championships is not too concerned about other awards- the ones that are handed out.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 27/12/2017 13:46:29    2066030

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